White House Signals Allegiance With Centrists on Key Health Points

[Land Shark]

Source: News From The Hill

White House officials have subtly steered healthcare negotiations over the most controversial disagreements between the Senate and House in favor of Democratic centrists.

Through selective media leaks, White House advisers have let it be known that President Barack Obama does not support the House in some of its biggest disputes with the upper chamber.

Read more: http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/75933-white-house-signals-allegiance-with-centrists-on-major-healthcare-points

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You may reply and give your take on what the upshot of this not-entirely-unexpected development is.

[ixion]

1. mandated quasi products for everyone!

woohoo! :sarcasm:

[DJ13]

2. If "centrists" werent hill speak for "conservative Dems" this would be good news

[dflprincess]

3. "Obama does not support the House in some of its biggest disputes with the upper chamber"

Let's hope the Progressive Caucus grows and spine and refuses to support Obama in some of his biggest agreements with the upper chamber.

[Land Shark]

25. +1

[Robbien]

4. Nothing subtle about it.

The WH would prefer that leftie populists would STFU and get out of the way of profits.

[FiveGoodMen]

6. When Bush was in the White House

we needed nothing more than to get him out of there.

The situation is the same today.

[Iowa]

12. +1

[boppers]

39. The WH would prefer that leftie populists would STFU and get out of the way of progress.

Fixed that for ya.

:evilgrin:

[grytpype]

5. Just get it done and move on to job creation.

[2 Much Tribulation]

7. Probably to further subsidies to corporations to further 'job creation"

[grytpype]

10. Oh no, CORPORATIONS!!!!!!

Mean corporations!!!

Somebody help me!!!!

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:cry:

[Land Shark]

19. So you think political involvement by corporations presents no issues? n/t

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[Mithreal]

34. Effective silliness I am sure. It is not that corporations are mean

but they owe no allegiance to country or community and are motivated primarily by greed and corrupt our public officials.

If you want to cry silly tears for your corporations then demand reform, regulation and bust up the too big to fails.

You know full well that anytime anyone expresses anger toward the corporations it is not directed at all of them.

Anyway, thank you for lowering the level of discourse with this childish derision.

[Hell Hath No Fury]

8. This is news???

Obvious as the nose on Jimmy Durante. :eyes:

[2 Much Tribulation]

9. well, it's confirmation of what some smart people already knew, but not all! n/t

[stuart68]

11. Eye on the prize

this is what happens when you have a single focus, and that focus is "PASS SOMETHING" as opposed to "DO WHAT IS RIGHT".

Obama does not have enough experience to know that is legacy will NOT be written in four years, but long after that, and based on the courage to do the right thing. This will be an historic bill - historic failure...

[Phlem]

13. Democratic Centrists?

WTF?

Their talking in 2010 terms right? If that's the case, you mean moderate republicans?

Democratic centrists,..... right.

Nice try and not funny.

-phlem

[xchrom]

14. Now we just wait til they pass the cluster fuck --

And then rely on said creators of the
clusterfuck to fix the clusterfuck.

[damntexdem]

15. Centrists? Read 'Democratic conservatives.'

That blue dog just don't bark "centrist."

[Phlem]

16. Just calling "Blue Dogs" by their real names

sorry, guess my post wasn't funny either.

Ahh well, one can try.

-phlem

[OHdem10]

17. Obama is a New Democrat. New Democrats consider themselves

Centrists. How else would Obama go. He is one of them.

IMO, Centrist are Conservative Democrats. Moderate Republicans.

[nashville_brook]

18. THIS IS MCCAIN'S PLAN. No employer mandate, taxing insurance, no cost controls.

this is sickening.

[Land Shark]

24. +1

[Mithreal]

32. Sadly yes

[tbyg52]

20. >>Allegiance With Centrists

What, that center that's moved so far to the right it's about to run off the road?

[Zhade]

21. White House Signals Allegiance With Anti-Worker Conservatives on Key Insurance Points

There, fixed the headline.

[2 Much Tribulation]

23. +1

[Mithreal]

33. Indeed

[Wilms]

26. They did WHAT?! n/t

[Land Shark]

27. Yes. n/t

[bemildred]

28. Boy, this sure sounds like bullshit. nt

[Vidar]

29. Just more selling out to the corporations on Obama's part!

[New Dawn]

30. "Centrists" = Right-Wing Democrats

[Mithreal]

31. Will be harder for Republicans to challenge during the campaign seasons

when so many of their ideas and loopholes are embedded in a New Dem Deal.

But hey, we secured future campaign contributions from the corporations with the deepest pockets.

[2 Much Tribulation]

35. kick

[Zorra]

36. Obama said that any plan he signed would include a public option.

Was he lying to us? If it turns out that he was lying, I suggest we attempt to nominate a different Democratic presidential candidate that has more integrity to run in the next presidential election.

July 20, 2009: Any plan I sign must include an insurance exchange: a one-stop shopping marketplace where you can compare the benefits, cost and track records of a variety of plans - including a public option to increase competition and keep insurance companies honest - and choose what's best for your family.

http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2009/07/obama-demands-the-bill-i-sign-must-include-public-option.php

[shadesofgray]

37. Obama = sell out who sold us out.

[midnight]

38. "Healthcare negotiators reached a tentative deal on the excise tax on Thursday

but details have yet to be released." When they release this info. I probably will have something to say.