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demoleft Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-19-10 06:46 PM
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Virginia shootings leave several dead, police say
Source: bbc

A lone gunman has killed and injured a number of people in central Virginia, police in the US state say.

They say more than 100 police officers have surrounded the suspect in a wooded area just outside of Appomattox.

The violence began shortly after noon on Tuesday local time when an injured man was found on a rural stretch of road, the Associated Press reports.

A police helicopter that responded to the incident was fired on and forced to land with a ruptured fuel tank.

The officers were not injured.

Read more: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/8469314.stm
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FunkyLeprechaun Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-19-10 06:47 PM
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1. Was going to post this
Its sad that the BBC website breaks this. Shootings are so common in the US that people barely give stories like this a second glance.
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zanana1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-19-10 07:19 PM
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2. True. People are becoming numb to gun violence.
A mass shooting by a lone gunman in the U.S. today is like a robbery at the 7-11.
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Fire_Medic_Dave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-19-10 07:53 PM
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11. Nice to see you back you probably should have changed your name a little more.
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Doctor_J Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-19-10 07:54 PM
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12. yes, it seems the president's efforts to "grab all of the guns"
is going much more slowly than the NRA thought it would.
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Recursion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-19-10 07:49 PM
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9. Violence is at historically low levels, actually, nationwide NT
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-19-10 07:30 PM
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3. Virginia shootings leave several dead, police say
Edited on Tue Jan-19-10 06:56 PM by Ian David
Source: BBC

A lone gunman has killed and injured a number of people in central Virginia, police in the US state say.

They say more than 100 police officers have surrounded the suspect in a wooded area just outside of Appomattox.

The violence began shortly after noon on Tuesday local time when an injured man was found on a rural stretch of road, the Associated Press reports.

A police helicopter that responded to the incident was fired on and forced to land with a ruptured fuel tank.

Read more: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/8469314.stm



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APPOMATTOX, VIRGINIA (BNO NEWS) -- Several people were killed and one person was injured in an apparent mass shooting in Virginia's Appomattox County, officials said on Tuesday.

Sergeant Thomas J. Molnar of the Virginia State Police said several people had died in the shootings, but was not able to provide a number of fatalities. It was not immediately clear what took place. Molnar was not able to say where the shootings happened.

Molnar said the suspect, a male, is believed to be cornered in an area near Route 703, also known as Snapps Mill Road. He said the suspect also fired at a state police helicopter, which sprung a fuel leak after being hit. "The helicopter landed safely nearby," Molnar added.

The Appomattox County Sheriff's Office is leading the investigation.

http://wireupdate.com/wires/416/several-dead-in-appomattox-va-shootings/





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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-19-10 07:30 PM
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4. A sniper on the lose!
This is terrible!
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sakabatou Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-19-10 07:30 PM
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5. Devastating
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superconnected Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-19-10 07:30 PM
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6. And in 2010 the job market was so bad that people didn't have office to go to for their office
shootings.

Okay, not funny in lieu of the dead. But strange he did it on a rural road.
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bossy22 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-19-10 07:30 PM
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7. sounds like a sniper type shooting
if he was able to hit a helicopter he must be using a rifle with a scope
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-19-10 07:30 PM
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8. Rambo could do it with a bow and arrow.
Edited on Tue Jan-19-10 07:21 PM by Ian David
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ManiacJoe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-19-10 07:52 PM
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10. Way too many assumptions being made.
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BumRushDaShow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-19-10 08:20 PM
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13. AP finally picked up the story
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-19-10 08:20 PM
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14. I heard this on the local radio on the way home- he hit the copter 4 times
but the State Trooper pilot was able to land it.
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shadowknows69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-19-10 08:20 PM
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15. Anyone know of a Roam or Rome VA and how close it is to this?
Edited on Tue Jan-19-10 08:21 PM by shadowknows69
I have a dear friend down that way, but I'm not sure of the exact city she's in.
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dgibby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-20-10 12:28 PM
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29. I'm from Va.
You're probably thinking of Roanoke, in SW Va. I grew up near there. There's no Roam/Rome, Va.
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shadowknows69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-20-10 01:05 PM
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31. I was totally off, I remembered she told me the town was North, VA.
On google maps it looked like it would be easy to drive through without noticing.
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shadowknows69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-20-10 01:06 PM
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32. Thanks for the reply though. Still a little nervous. She has other family in the State.
And still haven't heard from her. That said, the woman never checks her voice mail so...
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Blandocyte Donating Member (830 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-19-10 08:23 PM
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16. Total ban
Edited on Tue Jan-19-10 08:28 PM by Blandocyte
and yes, I realize durgs are banned and you can have a speedball delivered to your door at any hour, but, staying on topic, a total gun ban would be a great start.
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bossy22 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-19-10 08:59 PM
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21. its an impossible start
Edited on Tue Jan-19-10 09:03 PM by bossy22
politically and legally

you would have to change the constitution
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slackmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-19-10 09:01 PM
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22. A total ban, except of course
For guns used by government employees.
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bossy22 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-19-10 09:04 PM
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23. like chicago aldermans?
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hack89 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-19-10 09:10 PM
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24. Why do you hate civil rights?
after 8 years of Bush, do you doubt the dangers of not protecting the Bill of Rights?
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TheWraith Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-19-10 10:23 PM
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25. So you recognize it wouldn't work, but you support it anyway?
Despite the fact that it's completely contrary not just to the idea of a free country, but to the actual bill of rights?

Sounds like you desperately need to read a few books about Prohibition, about the drug war, and all the other attempts to suppress things in the history of this and other countries. You can't just ban something you don't like.
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leftynyc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-20-10 01:03 PM
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30. And what to do about
that pesky constitution?
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proteus_lives Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-21-10 09:54 AM
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36. A great start....
To the total destruction of our rights.
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onehandle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-19-10 08:27 PM
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17. .
Edited on Tue Jan-19-10 08:42 PM by onehandle
.

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shadowknows69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-19-10 08:30 PM
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18. Fuck, can we spare the politics for an hour? I have a friend down that way I can't reach.
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onehandle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-19-10 08:44 PM
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19. You're right.
Sorry. The whole Massachusetts situation has me on edge and ready to lash out.

Hope your friend is ok.

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shadowknows69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-19-10 08:48 PM
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20. Still can't reach her, but have determined she lives 130 miles from Appotomax
My wife just hooked with her sister down there and she's ok too.
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demoleft Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-20-10 09:04 AM
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26. UPDATE jan 20 - Suspect held after eight die in Virginia shootings
Edited on Wed Jan-20-10 09:04 AM by demoleft
A gunman who shot and killed eight people in the US state of Virginia has given himself up, say police.
At one point, police say a helicopter was fired on by the suspect and forced to land with a ruptured fuel tank.
...
The suspect, named by police as Christopher Speight, 39, approached officers at about 0700 (1200 GMT) after the all-night drama.


source: bbc, http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/8469931.stm
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raccoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-20-10 12:06 PM
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28. Any word yet on why he went postal? nt
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Blue_Tires Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-20-10 09:17 AM
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27. unconfirmed report that two of the dead are the shooter's wife and son
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Blue_Tires Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-20-10 02:43 PM
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33. UPDATE: Police check for explosives after arrest
APPOMATTOX — Bomb squad members today combed the home and surrounding property of a man suspected of killing eight people and attempting to shoot down a Virginia State Police helicopter before surrendering without incident early this morning.

Christopher B. Speight, 39, “managed to conceal himself overnight in the wooded area” guarded by officers before surrendering at 7:10 a.m., said Appomattox Sheriff O. Wilson Staples. He was unarmed, though authorities said they believed he used a high-powered rifle, and was wearing a bulletproof vest.

With the capture made, crime scene technicians, bomb squad members and SWAT officers combed the log cabin-style home on Snapps Mill Road/state Route 703 and a large area surrounding the dwelling...

---SNIP---

But in interviews with the Lynchburg News & Advance and the Richmond Times-Dispatch, a co-owner of a Lynchburg market where Speight occasionally worked as a security guard described him as recently troubled over a dispute involving his home and land, which he inherited along with his sister from his mother. Connie Anderson said Speight had a married sister who at some point had moved into the house with him.

“Chris felt like they were trying to get him out of the house, and it was his (house), too,“ said Anderson, the co-owner of Sunshine Market, where Speight, employed by Old Dominion Security, was described by an employee as a good security officer who seemed to have changed after leaving for about five months following the death of his mother in 2006.

“He seemed like a zombie when he came back to the job,“ Tonya Maddox, a cashier, told the Times-Dispatch. “My boss was joking around. He said, ‘He’ll probably kill us all,‘“ Maddox said.

http://www2.timesdispatch.com/rtd/news/state_regional/article/fatalities_reported_in_appomattox_incident/318637/

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Blue_Tires Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-21-10 09:17 AM
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34. UPDATE: Names of the dead released
APPOMATTOX—Authorities released the names of the eight victims killed in Tuesday’s shootings here and said suspect Christopher Bryan Speight has been charged with one count of first-degree murder in the deaths.

Meanwhile, officials expect to continue hunting today for more explosive devices at Speight’s home, where they detonated at least seven bombs yesterday.

State police Sgt. Thomas Molnar said a “multitude” of devices were discovered at the home 3½ miles from state police headquarters here. No immediate details were given on the nature of the explosives found inside and outside the home.

Speight is being held in the Blue Ridge Regional Jail in Lynchburg without bond.

The victims were identified as Speight’s sister, Lauralee Sipe, 38; her daughter, Morgan L. Dobyns, 15; Sipe’s husband, Dwayne S. Sipe, 38; and the couple’s son, Joshua Sipe, 4.

Other victims were Jonathan L. Quarles, 43, of Appomattox; his wife, Karen Quarles, 43, of Appomattox; their daughter, Emily A. Quarles, 15, of Appomattox; and Ronald I. Scruggs II, 16, of Dillwyn.

Scruggs’ relationship to the other victims was not clear last night.

http://www2.timesdispatch.com/rtd/news/state_regional/article/fatalities_reported_in_appomattox_incident/318637/
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wordpix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-21-10 09:23 AM
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35. another guy with mental problems has a gun---wonder if it was registered?
Honestly, I have no problem with people having a gun to defend their homes but there's something wrong with a system when people with mental problems can easily get guns.
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Blue_Tires Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-21-10 03:26 PM
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37. he had a legit concealed carry permit...
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