It's Reconciliation (Pelosi is set to announce the House will go the reconciliation route on HCR)

[kpete]

Source: Daily News

It's Reconciliation (Update) »

By Michael McAuliff

A well-informed source tells The Mouth Nancy Pelosi is set to announce the House will go the reconciliation route on health care reform.

Of course, that means using a budgetary procedure that requires a simple majority to pass.

It’s still unclear to us precisely what that means would be passed, but possibilities would be creating a national health care exchange and expanding Medicare or Medicaid coverage.

Democrats are caucusing now, so stay tuned.




Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/blogs/dc/2010/01/its-reconciliation.html#ixzz0dGllA2KE

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Update: A second source confirms that Pelosi is presenting a reconciliation plan to the caucus, and making sure they go with something that can actually pass.

Separately, she is meeting with Harry Reid today.

[mzmolly]

1. Could be great news.

Crossing my fingers!

[Renew Deal]

2. Reconciliation means no regulation, but a public option.

So it has potential.

[BP2]

7. + Good for the PO. What are the consequences for "no regulation" though? Optimistic on this one!

[Renew Deal]

13. Medicare for all solution solves that problem because the Medicare option would be less restrictive

So I think it works either way.

[Vincardog]

15. The story is that reconciliation can only be used on budgetary matters. Regulation does not affect

the budget in theory.

[sandnsea]

25. That can pass separately

Who is going to vote down a law that says insurance must accept everybody. If private insurance has to compete with a public option on that basis, that could work. Some people, like me, have an annual check-up and two $4 prescriptions that I pay for myself. They're getting $6,000 a year to carry me. I'm not a burden on any insurance company. If they want my money, they'd have to compete with a public option to keep me.

[thereismore]

34. Who? I can give you 42 names in the Senate... but I get your point. Yes, this is the way. nt

[TheEuclideanOne]

37. Who is going to vote down....

I think that we all know the answer to that one. Still, your point is well taken. BTW, I am wondering if they can strike down the mandate too. Can they also put in a clause for the public execution of Lieberman?

[Bette Noir]

45. The Senate bill, the one with no public option and a mandate to buy,

is gone, if the House doesn't pass it, which they won't.

The public execution of Lieberman wouldn't be a budgetary matter, so, no, that couldn't pass under reconciliation. It'd have to be a separate bill, but I don't think it'd be filibustered, so you'd still only need a simple majority.

Adjusting the age of Medicare eligibility is a budgetary matter, so it could be done under reconciliation.

[ooglymoogly]

50. If the insurance industries have the competition of a good public option

There does not need to be any regulation. But if they are talking Exchanges run by insurance, which is another barrel of snakes entirely,no regulation spells disaster.

[cascadiance]

3. Medicare Part E for Everyone. Just DO IT!

[tabatha]

4. Yes, Liebermann, and others will be out of the picture.

[dave29]

5. being presented to the caucus -- caucus has to agree.

We shall see

[BP2]

6. Isn't that going to kill a lot of the good stuff in the Senate bill (not that there's not that much

in the Senate's version anyway).

[Pab Sungenis]

9. Most of the good stuff wasn't that controversial

and can be passed separately if Reid just gets his head out of his ass and pulls his caucus together.

[BP2]

11. Fingers crossed. Let's hope the caucus agrees.

[onehandle]

8. Bring on the Pelosi haters. nt

[Jester Messiah]

10. Good, get the damn thing DONE. [nt]

[Posteritatis]

12. I'll be over here not holding my breath. (nt)

[BP2]

14. In this whole process, Nancy is about the only Dem who has been consistent in action and words to

pass HCR. :thumbsup:

Harry, OTOH, wants to reward his corporate buddies or just has his head up his ass.

[closeupready]

48. To be fair to other Dems, no, she has not been entirely consistent.

But I think we should just let that all go if they successfully go through with this.

[formercia]

16. The new Bill:

Medicare part E, covering everyone not covered by Part D.

[bamacrat]

17. Good, had we done this three or four months ago we could be worriying about jobs.

[BP2]

18. And we'd likely still have 60 votes, too.

[AlinPA]

33. Lieberman and Nelson would have been "No's".

[RantinRavin]

19. The Mouth Nancy Pelosi

Why didn't someone proofread that ?

[BeatleBoot]

21. It's a blog called "The Mouth of the Potomac"

Maybe the writer should have said, "...tells The Mouth <<that>> Nancy Pelosi..."

[bc3000]

20. I'll believe it when I see it.

I've been let down too many times already.

[BeatleBoot]

22. I'll see it when I believe it

[ixion]

23. Welcome to the World of Federally Mandated Purchases

:puke: :argh:

Welcome to America. Shop now, or face the consequences. :grr:

[elocs]

24. For a better understanding of reconciliation and HCR:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x7480650

This will not give people everything they believe it will. Reconciliation is not a panacea or cure-all for HCR problems.

[sandnsea]

29. It keeps most of the good stuff

and tosses the worst of it. And I disagree on the public option since it will allow subsidies to be used in its purchase. Besides, if they expand Medicaid to 150% and Medicare to 55 plus, then that alone is worth passing and get some of the other things through separately. Frankly if they do this without the individual mandates, it'll be better in the long run anyway.

[harun]

30. Yah look at all the people thinking this is a cure-all!

:sarcasm:

[elocs]

36. There are people here who believe that reconciliation will give them everything

the current legislation lacks, including the public option. It won't and this is claimed mostly by those who cannot be bother to learn what reconciliation is about and particularly how it relates to HCR.

[bossy22]

26. if im correct

reconciliationed bills have to be renewed every 4 years

[h9socialist]

27. I wish I could be optimistic . . .

. . . unfortunately, I have good reason to suspect that this too will come up empty! I live in Indiana and my Senator is Evan Bayh! Now do you understand my pessimism?

[bain_sidhe]

28. I don't think we know what this means yet.

Are they going to try to do a whole 'nother bill, via budget reconciliation, or are they going to pass the Senate bill and then "fix" it, via budget reconciliation?

Waiting for more info before applauding or booing.

[thereismore]

31. Nancy has been pretty good so far. Thanks and kudos! nt

[AlinPA]

32. I'll believe it when I see it. Her first mistake is meeting with Harry Reid. That will kill it.

[thereismore]

35. No, come on, she and Reid have to talk. Come on will you? Give her a chance. nt

[AlinPA]

40. I'm OK with Nancy on this. It's Reid that worries me. I'd rather see her talk with other

Democratic senators (Boxer, Brown (OH), maybe Durbin, Mikulski) to get something together. Yes, I know he is the "leader", but he has failed.

[thereismore]

49. I agree. nt

[felinetta]

38. We would only need 50+1.It'd be great if we could get a more progressive bill.

Just think: Screw Lieberman, Nelson, and the rest of them. 
Hopefully we won't need Bayh either.

[joeglow3]

39. 2 BIG problems : endless 60 vote procedural objections & 10 year sunset

nt

[yurbud]

41. how about just expanding medicare to everyone? geeze, it aint rocket science.

[Imajika]

42. Pretty sure this is just wishful thinking...

http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2010/01/white-house-lets-let-dust-settle-on-health-care.php?ref=fpa

"The White House will move health care reform to the back burner, in order to 'let the dust settle' after Democrats lost their Senate super-majority."

The message here is pretty clear. HCR is dead for this year at least.

[AlinPA]

43. There is not enough guts to do reconciliation. It might anger the republicans.

[Bette Noir]

44. Fingers crossed.

[Blue Owl]

46. A simple majority, eh?

The current Democratic majority appears to be the most complex, ineffective, self-destructing assemblage of FAILURE in history.

[Kingofalldems]

47. And yes! Ooh, I know somebody who won't like this one. Wow!