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Newsjock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-21-10 07:34 PM
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Prop. 8 backer stands by views on pedophilia
Source: Associated Press

A proponent of California's same-sex marriage ban testified Thursday that he thinks gays are more likely to be pedophiles and that allowing them to wed would lead to efforts to lower the age at which teenagers can legally have sex with adults.

Lawyers for two couples suing to overturn the ban, known as Proposition 8, called Hak-Shing William Tam of San Francisco to testify as a hostile witness to prove that bias toward gays fueled the campaign to pass the measure.

Proposition 8 sponsors have tried to distance themselves from Tam, even though his name appeared alongside ballot arguments for the measure in voter information pamphlets during the 2008 campaign.

In federal court, attorney David Boies spent time walking Tam through a Web site for a Chinese-American evangelical Christian group that featured a headline reading "Studies Show That Homosexuality Is Linked to Pedophilia."

Read more: http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/n/a/2010/01/19/national/a093752S58.DTL
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TommyO Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-21-10 07:40 PM
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1. Everybody needs to read this
"Do you believe that homosexuals are 12 times more likely to molest children?" the lawyer continued.

"Yeah, based on the different literature that I have read," Tam replied.

Boies pressed Tam to cite books, articles or authors he had read to substantiate the views, but Tam said he could not remember specifics.



All these assholes have is hatred and lies.
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FiveGoodMen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-21-10 07:57 PM
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5. "All these assholes have is hatred and lies"
And yet, America can't seem to reject their filth.

Because so many Americans listen to the suckers of Satan's cock that get into pulpits every week and tell them whom to hate.
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Vehl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-22-10 01:58 AM
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16. yep!. reminds me of Palin's lines!

How the hell can a guy make a claim like this on court without providing evidence? But then again folks who believe that the world is but a few thousand years old..and that we were all "created" probably don't think its too odd :))
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bemildred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-21-10 07:44 PM
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2. What a moran. nt
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Odin2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-21-10 07:48 PM
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3. Bigots.
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msongs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-21-10 07:56 PM
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4. 150 years ago people in the USA said the same thing about Chinese people lol nt
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Journeyman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-21-10 09:50 PM
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9. Touché! . .
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SoapBox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-21-10 08:17 PM
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6. Here are links for trial testimony...
If anyone wants to follow this trial, here are a couple of links:

http://prop8trialtracker.com/

http://firedoglake.com/prop8trial/

Please tell your friends...Once Mr. "Freak" Tam is done with the gay community, will YOU be next?
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Zoeisright Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-21-10 08:20 PM
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7. Wonder if he's projecting. Sounds like it.
Because he's dead wrong.
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Socal31 Donating Member (707 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-22-10 01:28 AM
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15. How much you want to bet......
that certain files on his harddrive could land him in the pokey?
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wpelb Donating Member (292 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-21-10 09:37 PM
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8. Anybody got any stats on this?
There was a male teacher where I went to elementary school who died in prison after pleading guilty to molesting a girl and admitting to having molested many others (but not charged due to the statute of limitations). So my direct knowledge is that 100% of child molesters are straight, but that doesn't mean anything. Given that gays are (presumably) a fairly small minority of the population, it stands to reason that the vast majority of molesters should not be gay. But I'd like to see some verifiable stats one way or the other about this, assuming such exist.
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CLANG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-21-10 10:20 PM
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12. They only gay molesters I've ever heard of were priests.
And I in no way associate them with normal gay men. They are just desperate, lonely men that have easy access to young boys. The Catholic church has destroyed many a soul.
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RZM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-22-10 01:23 AM
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13. Aggregate numbers are of course irrelevant . . .
Edited on Fri Jan-22-10 01:25 AM by RZM
What we need are rates for each group. There's probably plenty of studies on this - I'd be shocked if the rates aren't pretty similar for both same- and opposite-sex molestation as well as for statutory rape. I've known two people busted for this type of thing -- one was a straight man who molested his young daughters, the other a gay man (in his 40s) who had a sexual relationship with a boy in his mid-teens. That's not including the many other people I've known who were the victims in these types of situations. I'm sure I (and everybody else) know plenty of people who have histories as abusers or victims but don't talk about it.
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Ignis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-21-10 09:54 PM
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10. Kick
:kick:
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CLANG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-21-10 10:13 PM
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11. Hak-Shing William Tam can eat shit and die!
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Jamastiene Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-22-10 01:26 AM
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14. Simple dictionary defintions prove him wrong.
A true pedophile is only attracted to children.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pedophilia

Pedophilia (or paedophilia) is a psychological disorder in which an adult or older adolescent experiences a sexual preference for prepubescent children.

This article explains a lot about the research and statistics regarding homosexuality and pedophilia.
Testing the Premise: Are Gays A Threat To Our Children?
http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/Articles/000,002.htm

The gay people are NOT a threat to children. We are not pedophiles. Pedophiles are pedophiles. Gay people are attracted to other adults, NOT children.

:wtf: is wrong with people? They need to crack open a goddamn dictionary and get their heads out of their asses long enough to learn something.



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