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sabra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-26-10 11:58 AM
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GOP Under Fire for "Census" Mailing
Source: CBS News/AP

Republican National Committee Mailer Seeking Information and Money Looks Like a Census Bureau Form

(AP) The Republican Party is seeking input and money from GOP voters - seemingly under the guise of the U.S. Census Bureau.

"Strengthening our Party for the 2010 elections is going to take a massive grass-roots effort all across America. That is why I have authorized a Census to be conducted of every Congressional District in the country," GOP Chairman Michael Steele says in a letter mailed nationwide.

The letter was sent in plain white envelopes marked "Do Not Destroy, Official Document." Labeled "2010 Congressional District Census," the letter uses a capital "C," the same as the Census Bureau. It also includes a "Census Tracking Code."

The letter makes a plea for money and accompanies a form asking voters to identify their political leanings and issues important to them. There are no disclaimers that participation in the GOP effort is voluntary; participation in the government census is required by law. Failure to participate carries a $5,000 fine, though it is rarely enforced.

Read more: http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2010/01/26/politics/main6142835.shtml?tag=stack
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FSogol Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-26-10 12:04 PM
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1. 1. Cut off or Sharpie-over the tracking number 2. Fill return envelope with
as much anonymous junk mail as will fit in bulging envelope.
3. Mail the pre-paid envelope back to DJ Steel
4. Let the GOP pay the postage due for your junk mail.
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T Wolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-26-10 12:10 PM
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3. This is a great way to get rid of junk mail. Only down side is that the pukes WILL NOT
recycle the trash as we would.

Still, it is a good tactic.

I also use it to "return" DNC and DLC and DCCC and DSCC crap.
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SharonAnn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-26-10 01:44 PM
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12. By sending them your junk mail, you've already "recycled" it once. LOL
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dhpgetsit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-26-10 04:58 PM
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15. Thom Hartmann mentioned
that he donated $5 to John McCain because he wanted to be on their mailing list to be up on their talking points. He pointed out that he knew they would send over $5 worth to mail so it would end up costing them money anyway.
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Delphinus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-26-10 05:15 PM
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16. But they're not sending it
to everyone - isn't it just to Republicans?
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DrDan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-26-10 12:08 PM
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2. isn't there some law covering matters like this?
If I created some bogus tax-bill - asking folks to send $100 to cover tax underpayment - I am sure many would respond with a check.

And I would go to jail.

So how does the GOP get away with this devious crap.

C'mon Dems. Take off the gloves. At least pretend you have a spine.
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earcandle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-26-10 12:14 PM
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4. NOt pretend they have a spine, but act as if they have been elected to uphold the law.
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Qutzupalotl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-26-10 12:29 PM
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5. They did that here in Oregon with the tax measures.
Sent out mailers allegedly asking voter preference on the two tax increases. They looked like ballots. They're trying to diminish voter turnout by fooling people into thinking they've already voted.
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4dog Donating Member (289 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-26-10 12:32 PM
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6. I got this - shows something about the quality of 'pub data bases
I sent it back with my true responses, listing self as 'independent' (not one of their choices: closest was independent leaning 'pub). When all their choices were stupid, I wrote in a better response or said 'bad question'. A little amusement on their dime...
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havocmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-26-10 12:34 PM
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7. The idiots 'pubs sent one to the governor of Montana! LOL
And they sent it to the state's official governor's residence. But our dear gov, Brian Schweitzer, turned it on them with a smile and very cutting remark. I loves my guv!

http://billingsgazette.com/news/state-and-regional/montana/article_90f343a6-0a7e-11df-afb1-001cc4c002e0.html

HELENA - Montana Gov. Brian Schweitzer, a Democrat, is among those that received from the Republican Party a letter asking for information and donations.

The letter is prompting complaints because it mimics an official U.S. Census Bureau form.

Schweitzer said one of the letters was sent to his official residence near the state Capitol.

The Democrat said that perhaps the Republicans were trying to enlist someone into their party who can actually balance a budget.

...


'perhaps the Republicans were trying to enlist someone into their party who can actually balance a budget.' ZING!

In a state populated by a lot of people who resent the census, in the extreme, for what they consider an invasion of privacy ( I know...:banghead:) the GOP fucked-in-a-seriously-upward-direction if they sent this thing out widely here. The must have hired that 'moran guy' as a consultant.
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lobodons Donating Member (448 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-26-10 12:35 PM
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8. Sounds kind of ACORN'Y to me
Where is the same outrage?? Where is FAUX news on this fraud on America!!??
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jmowreader Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-26-10 01:21 PM
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9. Now, now...this could be fun
Under "issues important to you" just write "defeating as many Republicans as humanly posslble."
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benld74 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-26-10 01:32 PM
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10. THEY DID THE SAME Damn thing in the 2000 CENSUS!!!!!
AND they will keep doing it UNTIL it is outlawed!!!
http://www.usatoday.com/news/opinion/e1618.htm


GOP defends census mailer
WASHINGTON (AP) - The Republican National Committee defended its use of a fund-raising mailing that includes a GOP-specific census form that Democrats contend trivializes the Census Bureau's efforts to count the country's population.


State-by-state preview
Primary calendar
USA TODAY's
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Rep. Carolyn Maloney, D-N.Y., asked the Postal Service to investigate the six-page document mailed to party members in an envelope emblazoned with the phrase ''REPUBLICAN CENSUS DOCUMENT ENCLOSED.'' Maloney demanded Tuesday that RNC chairman Jim Nicholson end the mailing immediately.

''At a time when we are engaged in a once-a-decade civic ceremony, the RNC, in a shameful attempt to capitalize on our national count, is soliciting funds under the banner of the census,'' said Maloney, ranking member of the House Government Reform Committee's census panel.

RNC spokesman Mike Collins called the criticism a ''partisan cheap shot.''

''How could anybody be confused by that?'' Collins said. ''No one was confused by this piece of mail. It was clearly a fund-raising and legitimate participation piece.''

The latest squabble between Republicans and Democrats over Census 2000 comes just as the Census Bureau readies 440,000 temporary workers to gather information from 42 million households that did not mail back census forms. That operation begins Thursday.

In a letter Tuesday to Postmaster General William Henderson, Maloney said that ''while the content of the enclosed letter does not resemble an official census questionnaire, it is worth noting that nowhere on the mailing does it clarify that this solicitation has no connection whatsoever to the 2000 Census.''

The first page of the cover letter is written on Republican National Committee letterhead, and the bottom of the page reads the phrase ''Not printed at taxpayers' expense. Paid for by the RNC.''

U.S. Postal Inspector Daniel Mihalko said he had yet to see the RNC mailing.

Census Director Kenneth Prewitt also said he had not seen the mailing. He had been critical of a mailing earlier this year by the conservative Southeastern Legal Foundation which the Postal Service said implied a connection to the federal government.

''Anything at this stage of the census which creates confusion about the authentic census would harm the census,'' Prewitt said. ''I would urge anyone engaged in mass mailing to refrain from any kind of mailing that could be confused to appear like a census form.''

The fund-raising letter is addressed ''Dear Republican'', and was sent out on April 10, the day before a deadline to mail back Census Bureau questionnaires, said Chip Walker, spokesman for census subcommittee chairman Rep. Dan Miller, R-Fla.

The form poses questions such as ''Do you favor abolishing our current tax system?'', and ''Should Congress work to outlaw so-called 'homosexual marriages?'''

''It's hypocrisy, but even more than that, it's downright misleading,'' Democratic National Committee spokeswoman Jenny Backus said.

But Walker called the criticism ''much ado about nothing.

''It's very clear that this mailing is from the RNC,'' he said. ''In no place does it encourage people not to send in their (Census Bureau) forms.''

Earlier this month, several leading Republicans including aides to Senate Majority Leader Trent Lott, R-Miss., said they had suggested to constituents concerned about their privacy being invaded to skip those questions they might find intrusive.
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BadgerKid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-26-10 01:44 PM
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11. No surprise there. S.O.P. n/t
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Hawkeye-X Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-26-10 01:59 PM
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13. GOP should concede the next 25 years without objection
as a punishment for these fake Census.
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DebbieCDC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-26-10 03:47 PM
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14. I got one of these last week.
I have no idea in hell HOW they got my name and address on a 'puke mailing list.

I sent it back with "GO TO HELL" written on it.
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tanyev Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-26-10 06:31 PM
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17. Guess they strong armed Bachmann to STFU about not filling out census forms.
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