Go back to the time of Bush/Ambassador to China . . .
and long before that -- Eagleburger/Kissinger arming China --
Again, what is the relationship of weapons production to peace in the world?
Are you really trying to say the US "baited" Russia into Afghanistan? No, the US/CIA didn't "create" the Taliban to bait Russia into Afghanistan...the Taliban didn't exist until after the USSR left. Am I trying to say . . . ? Are you serious?
See bottom of the page -- This interview has been out there for probably close to 4-5 years
now -- it's also in his book! Not only that, he told the story to O'Reilly on his show --
and just about everywhere else!!
No one said that we "start" wars to test weapons . . . .
And no, we don't start wars to "test" weapons. We have plenty of range space to test weapons. We knew our weaponry worked fine when Panama and other wars began. It's the media that spins up that nonsense that we "tested" the stealth fighter and other weapon systems in Panama and Iraq.What I said was that there is evidence in both the attack on Panama and the war in Iraq that
we have tested weapons there -- under cover of war. It's an
opportunity the MIC uses.
Re Israel -- Palestine . . . what I related to you has NOTHING WHATSOEVER to do with the
historical strugge in the ME. It does, however, relate to how right wing goverment has
always -- and continues -- to use religion and religious fanatics in co-opting and taking
over nations.
Nixon was anti-semitic as the tapes clearly show. Many recognized that -- many were worried
whether he would abandon Israel. Nixon, rather, found a way to appear to be aiding Israel
while actually co-opting Israel as our foothold in the ME. Again, Nixon armed right wing
religiously fundamentalist Israelis -- which disappeared peace-loving Israelis. That foothold
has provided a way for the US to keep the ME in turmoil -- and to enlarge on that turmoil!
Anyone who manufactures or sells arms is a warmonger --
Yeah -- I'd like to see Vermont try to buy weapons to compete with the US. Where do you
go for the latest nukes -- Walmart!
Wake up!!!
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Here's the story on how we created the Taliban/Al Qaeda via ISI-Pakistan and funded
it up until 9/11 --
Also keep in mind that Al Qaeda was an older organization picked up by the Nazis and
turned over to our CIA at the end of WWII.
Here's the story --
the second part goes into the details of how US created the VIOLENT Islamic writings/
textbooks and shipped them into the Middle East to create a more VIOLENT Islamic emergence.
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REQUOTED FROM MY JOURNAL --
FIRST PART OF THIS DEALS WITH HOW US/CIA CREATED TALIBAN AND AL QAEDA . . .
TO BAIT RUSSIANS INTO AFGHANISTAN . . .!!!
SECOND PART DEALS WITH THE TEXTBOOKS --
The CIA's Intervention in Afghanistan
Interview with Zbigniew Brzezinski,
President Jimmy Carter's National Security Adviser
Le Nouvel Observateur, Paris, 15-21 January 1998
Question: The former director of the CIA, Robert Gates, stated in his memoirs <"From the Shadows">, that American intelligence services began to aid the Mujahadeen in Afghanistan 6 months before the Soviet intervention. In this period you were the national security adviser to President Carter. You therefore played a role in this affair. Is that correct?
Brzezinski: Yes. According to the official version of history, CIA aid to the Mujahadeen began during 1980, that is to say, after the Soviet army invaded Afghanistan, 24 Dec 1979. But the reality, secretly guarded until now, is completely otherwise Indeed, it was July 3, 1979 that President Carter signed the first directive for secret aid to the opponents of the pro-Soviet regime in Kabul. And that very day, I wrote a note to the president in which I explained to him that in my opinion this aid was going to induce a Soviet military intervention.
Q: Despite this risk, you were an advocate of this covert action. But perhaps you yourself desired this Soviet entry into war and looked to provoke it?
B: It isn't quite that. We didn't push the Russians to intervene, but we knowingly increased the probability that they would.
Q: When the Soviets justified their intervention by asserting that they intended to fight against a secret involvement of the United States in Afghanistan, people didn't believe them. However, there was a basis of truth. You don't regret anything today?
Q: Regret what? That secret operation was an excellent idea. It had the effect of drawing the Russians into the Afghan trap and you want me to regret it? The day that the Soviets officially crossed the border, I wrote to President Carter. We now have the opportunity of giving to the USSR its Vietnam war. Indeed, for almost 10 years, Moscow had to carry on a war unsupportable by the government, a conflict that brought about the demoralization and finally the breakup of the Soviet empire.
Q: And neither do you regret having supported the Islamic fundamentalism, having given arms and advice to future terrorists?
Q: What is most important to the history of the world? The Taliban or the collapse of the Soviet empire? Some stirred-up Moslems or the liberation of Central Europe and the end of the cold war?
http://www.takeoverworld.info/brzezinski_i... ... ---------------------------------------------------
SECOND PART --
The US spent $100's of millions shooting down Soviet helicopters yet didn't spend a penny helping Afghanis rebuild their infrastructure and institutions.
They also spent millions producing jihad preaching, fundamentalist textbooks and shipping them off to Afghanistan. These were the same text books the Western media discussed in shocked tones and told their audiences were used by fundamentalist teachers to brainwash their charges and to inculcate in young Afghanis a jihad mindset, hatred of foreigners and non-Muslims etc.
Have you heard about the Afghan Jihad schoolbook scandal?
Or perhaps I should say, "Have you heard about the Afghan Jihad schoolbook scandal that's waiting to happen?"
Because it has been almost unreported in the Western media that the US government shipped, and continues to ship, millions of Islamist textbooks into Afghanistan.
Only one English-speaking newspaper we could find has investigated this issue: the Washington Post. The story appeared March 23rd.
Washington Post investigators report that during the past twenty years the US has spent millions of dollars producing fanatical schoolbooks, which were then distributed in Afghanistan.
"The primers, which were filled with talk of jihad and featured drawings of guns, bullets, soldiers and mines, have served since then as the Afghan school system's core curriculum. Even the Taliban used the American-produced books..." -- Washington Post, 23 March 2002 (1)
According to the Post the U.S. is now "...wrestling with the unintended consequences of its successful strategy of stirring Islamic fervor to fight communism."
So the books made up the core curriculum in Afghan schools. And what were the unintended consequences? The Post reports that according to unnamed officials the schoolbooks "steeped a generation in violence."
How could this result have been unintended? Did they expect that giving fundamentalist schoolbooks to schoolchildren would make them moderate Muslims?
Nobody with normal intelligence could expect to distribute millions of violent Islamist schoolbooks without influencing school children towards violent Islamism. Therefore one would assume that the unnamed US officials who, we are told, are distressed at these "unintended consequences" must previously have been unaware of the Islamist content of the schoolbooks.
But surely someone was aware. The US government can't write, edit, print and ship millions of violent, Muslim fundamentalist primers into Afghanistan without high officials in the US government approving those primers.
http://www.tenc.net/articles/jared/jihad.h... 
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