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andym Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-26-10 03:13 AM
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Health insurance hikes stun small businesses
Edited on Fri Feb-26-10 03:22 AM by andym
Source: San Francisco Chronicle

While Anthem Blue Cross has been taking the heat for proposing rate increases of up to 39 percent on individual consumers, other health insurers have stunned some small businesses with hikes that in some cases exceed 75 percent.

Tom Simmons, president of an Oakland design and consulting firm with four employees, said he had just read about the Anthem increases when he opened a letter from his insurer, Blue Shield of California, informing him his monthly family premium would go up to $1,596 a month from $908, a nearly 76 percent increase.

"This industry is getting out of control. It makes me fearful of future years and what could become of things if something doesn't change," said Simmons, whose business health insurance policy also covers his family of three.

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Meanwhile, businesses in the small-group market - those with fewer than 50 employees - are reeling from the latest spikes in their health rates. Those who reported the highest rate increases appeared to have a high deductible Blue Shield policy paired with a savings account.



Read more: http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2010/02/25/MNLV1C78RH.DTL



Small group health insurance rates are even more out of control than individual policies in California. Note that Blue Shield of CA is actually a non-profit. Why do they need a 76% rate increase? Are medical costs really going up that fast?
And if they are going up so fast, why?
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krispos42 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-26-10 03:33 AM
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1. Universal single-payer IS pro-business!
Just not pro-insurance-company.


It's also pro-people, pro-growth, pro-fiscal-responsibility, and pro-freedom.




But the insurance companies have the cash, and it's not the free speech that is said, it's the free speech that is heard. And damn, does that pile of cash make their free speech LOUD!!!
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midnight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-26-10 06:57 AM
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10. Good point- Corporate free speech is louder.....
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izquierdista Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-26-10 03:24 PM
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18. If people quit paying in
Then insurance companies won't have any cash. You have to be a sucker to pay in to a system when the only payout is "coverage declined".
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Overseas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-26-10 05:49 PM
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20. I agree. Open up Medicare to all through reconciliation. National Health Security
is important to our national security-- take those costs from the defense budget.
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ashling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-26-10 03:37 AM
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2. Small business would be helped by Single Payer
:shrug:
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M155Y_A1CH Donating Member (921 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-26-10 10:16 AM
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15. Absolutely
Large employers get much better group insurance rates than do
small businesses with only a few workers.

It's like Walmart, you have to buy in volume to get a reasonable price.

If the burden of health insurance were removed, it would benefit the little guy most.

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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-26-10 04:45 AM
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3. Get healthcare off the back of American business!
Make our entrepreneurs competitive again!
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dflprincess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-26-10 01:29 PM
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17. Small businesses - which are the most inventive are the ones who would benefit most
which explains why larger coporations (the ones not in the health insurance racket) aren't screaming for single payer. - They don't want to compete with the little guys.
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-26-10 05:26 PM
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19. Exactly. Small startups would start to roar.
They wouldn't need nearly as much venture capital. And they could begin to compete for the best and most experienced talent. A 40-year-old could take the risk of giving the benefit of his expertise. We could use American talent.
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tsuki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-26-10 05:19 AM
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4. What happened in Florida, after Jeb Bush and Bill Nelson dismantled
Lawton Chiles health insurance reforms for small business, is that the rates went up so quickly that small business was unable to keep participating.

I asked an insurance man about it, and he said that the insurance companies wanted to price small business group into private policies for larger profits. It was easier to disallow medical coverage rather with private insurance. Private insurance is regulated by the state.

Most of the senate's "reforms" were the "reforms" that were easily dismantled in Florida under 'deregulation' and 'the level playing field' the GOP is always blathering about.
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truthisfreedom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-26-10 05:25 AM
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5. These insurance companies are going to push through the public option by sheer brazen greed alone.
And then they'll be fucked.
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barbtries Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-26-10 05:51 AM
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7. man i hope so
i hope every person opening one of these little envelopes gets on board and gets on the phone to their senator, today. i just wrote to kay hagan earlier to chew her out for not doing her job. the senate is a bad joke.
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northernlights Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-26-10 07:15 AM
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11. first thought that came to my mind
keep it up, anthem. keep it up. :evilgrin:

they're digging their own grave with these outrageous hikes.
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PSPS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-26-10 09:29 AM
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12. Sadly, no. They're doing this because they know obama is with them.
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barbtries Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-26-10 05:48 AM
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6. i don't think it's because of medical costs
Edited on Fri Feb-26-10 05:49 AM by barbtries
i think it's because of the CEO's salary and bonus.
oh yeah, and the price of lawmakers.
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boppers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-26-10 06:00 AM
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8. The love of my life gets an injection every few months.
That injection "costs" $3,600.

That breaks down to charging $1,200 a month for a single medicine.
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Mumble Donating Member (140 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-26-10 09:52 AM
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13. My 86 y.o. mom has breast cancer....
...and gets a $3600 shot every month plus a doctor bill for $450. This has been going on for 2 years now. The Doc spends 10 minutes with her talking about what she watches on tv followed by a quick 2 minute exam. Last year she was in the hospital for a week with pneumonia...bill $36000. Last year it cost a little over $100,000 in medical bills.
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Downwinder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-26-10 10:06 AM
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14. That is the standard going rate for MS medications. n/t
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bulloney Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-26-10 06:43 AM
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9. USA! USA! USA! We have the best health care system in the world!
30% annual rate hikes are a part of having the best system in the world. We don't need no stinkin' socialized medicine!

And Republicans work for the best interests of small businesses.

Oh, and for those who aren't picking it up...
:sarcasm:
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heli Donating Member (276 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-26-10 01:27 PM
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16. Good old price gouging and profiteering
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classysassy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-26-10 10:17 PM
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21. A heartless cold congress
The only way to reign in the crooks in congress,remove the money enforce the law,bribery is against the law,enforce it.Campaign finance reform is badly needed,no more buying and selling congresscritters,those crooks were elected to do the peoples business but they are giving the people the business.
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