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saigon68 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-18-04 04:30 AM
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US General Warns Europe on Terrorism 'Appeasement'
Edited on Thu Mar-18-04 04:31 AM by saigon68
Thu Mar 18, 2004 12:01 AM ET

http://www.reuters.com/newsArticle.jhtml?type=worldNews&storyID=4592877§ion=news

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The top U.S. military officer warned Europeans on Wednesday that they must reject appeasement in the face of terrorism, as Washington battled skepticism over U.S. foreign policy and the invasion of Iraq.

Air Force Gen. Richard Myers, speaking days after Spain's incoming Socialist leader signaled his intention to pull 1,300 Spanish troops out of the U.S.-led occupation force in Iraq, said that backing away from terrorism did not work

"Weakness is provocative. It doesn't resolve the situation," added Myers, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, when asked about the results of Sunday's Spanish election.

Note: They are desperate on Penn Ave. They even trot out the old Lap Dog in Blue to Mouth the Neo-Con Lies.

This guy is another clueless sock-puppet of the corporate ruling class. In several years Gen Myers will be on the board of Boeing, Northrup et al--- and lobbying for the new weapons system, from his digs in West Palm Beach Florida.
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JackDragna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-18-04 04:33 AM
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1. Weakness? Appeasement?
The language of chest-thumping, right-wing idiocy comes out in full force. The people of Europe didn't want the Iraq war in the first place: Aznar will likely be the first of many leaders out on his ass when the majority anti-war populations of Europe cast off their pro-war leaders.
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Born Free Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-18-04 05:53 AM
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8. people refused to appease the bush team
this was a rejection of the bush teams policies, not an appeasement of terrorists.
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dand Donating Member (636 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-18-04 04:37 AM
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2. Good post Saigon68
These guys are covered with flop sweat over Democracy in Spain, it terrifies them that the people have spoken.
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punpirate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-18-04 04:46 AM
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3. Curious. Since when do US generals...
... make general foreign policy statements? This is the sort of thing that got MacArthur fired fifty years ago.
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saigon68 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-18-04 04:55 AM
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4. In this administration everything goes.
It is a full court Press!!!1

The good General himself is witless about politics. This "RELEASE" was the work of ROVE et al.

MacArthur got in trouble because he "did it on his own"

Gen. Myers, although witless, is loyal to his handlers and would never bite his master's hand !!!
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punpirate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-18-04 05:04 AM
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6. Yup... If Jerry Boynkin can...
... keep his job after prancing around in his uniform boasting about whose god is bigger and that Bush was chosen by God, I guess anything goes these days.
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atreides1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-18-04 08:46 AM
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18. The Problem Is
The problem is that since Rumsfeld purged the Pentagon of all general ranked officers, it's, as Saigon68 says, these sock-puppets
are all that's left.

And it's not just Myers, it's pretty much the entire Joint Chiefs, and probably every general and admiral in command positions.

They pad their resumes, and they are loyal to BushCo, which makes them traitors to the Constitution which they swore to defend.

They do nothing to make sure that the troops under their command are getting the equipment that they need.

So you can probably count on all the members of the Joint Chiefs to get those cushy jobs with defense contractors, and be making money hand over fist.
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ze_dscherman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-18-04 04:58 AM
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5. The Empire hath spoken. Now you better surrender, else ...
Spain has said it will retract troops unless power is handed to the UN . This is not appeasement to terrorists (clever wording, btw., with nice allusions to pre-WWWII). Spain will just not back up an unjust occupation anymore.
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Kellanved Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-18-04 05:06 AM
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7. err
So because Iraq was declared "a war on terrorism", bringing the troops home is "appeasing terrorism"?

Figures.

The Iraq war made the world safer; yeah sure, next please.
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Layman Donating Member (138 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-18-04 06:39 AM
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9. Weakness Really Is Provocative
Your weakness, allowing our country to be attacked on 9/11/01 while Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, REALLY provokes me, you overfed son of seven tits. If you had a shred of self-respect you would have fallen on your sword. Richie, what's it like to be a lapdog for the rich? What's that? Say you've got your mouth full at the moment? Gag you traitor.
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truthisfreedom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-18-04 06:43 AM
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10. military intelligence in action. mutually inconsistent terms...
it doesn't take violence to solve problems. and non-violence is not necessarily appeasement. the attacks would not have happened in Spain had bush not forced forward his daddy's old war in Iraq. hence, it's all bush's fault.
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Capt_Nemo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-18-04 06:46 AM
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11. Europe warns US that neo-con appeasers like Aznar
Edited on Thu Mar-18-04 06:49 AM by Capt_Nemo
will not be tolerated anymore!

Appeasement of US aggression and US bid for world domination is comming
to an end in Europe!
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Disturbed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-18-04 06:56 AM
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12. The majority of the Spanish people
did not take well to their Govt. lying to them about the attacks and also they rejected that Govt. complicit involvment in the illegal invasion and occupation of Iraq. I wonder if the majority of Americans will be as smart.
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T_i_B Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-18-04 07:02 AM
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13. Spain got the point
http://www.guardian.co.uk/spain/article/0,2763,1170977,00.html

Maybe they think it's payback time. In 2001, many American conservatives were appalled by the reaction in some European quarters to 9/11, a reaction crudely summarised as "America had it coming". They insisted it was grossly insensitive to attack the United States and its foreign policy while Ground Zero still smouldered. They were right and I took their side, urging people at least to pause a while before adding greater hurt to an already traumatised nation.

But look what's happening now. A matter of days after the event branded Europe's 9/11, and American conservatives - including some of the very people who were so outraged by the criticisms hurled at the US in September 2001 - have started whacking not just Spanish policy, but the Spanish people.

The first mistake is the more surprising, for no word is invoked more often in support of the "war on terror" than democracy. Yet these insults hurled at the Spanish show a sneaking contempt for the idea. For surely the Spanish did nothing more on Sunday than exercise their democratic right to change governments. They elected the Socialist party; to suggest they voted for al-Qaida is a slur not only on the Spanish nation but on the democratic process itself, implying that when terrorists strike political choice must end.

It comes from the same mentality that prompted Republicans in 2002 to run TV ads against the Democratic senator Max Cleland, who lost three limbs in the Vietnam war, placing his face alongside those of Saddam Hussein and Osama bin Laden. It is the same thinking that led one Republican congressman to quip recently that a vote in November for John Kerry will be a vote for Osama. It is a bid to reshape the political landscape, so that parties of the right stand on one side and all the rest are lumped in with al-Qaida. The tactic is McCarthyite, the natural extension of the bullying insistence that, in President Bush's own words, "You are either with us or you're with the terrorists". If that is the choice, then there is no choice: it is a mandate for a collection of one-party states.
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Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-18-04 07:03 AM
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14. Meyers avoids the question:
...What does slaughtering Iraqis have to do with the war on terrorism?
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tlcandie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-18-04 07:28 AM
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17. EXACTLY Q!!!
What does this invasion of Iraq, Haiti and who knows where else have to do with terrorism?!?!

NOTHING! So, their pointed jabs fall silently to the ground and have no effect except to those who are already walking around in a * bubble far from reality!
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saigon68 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-18-04 10:20 AM
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20. Indeed the term "The War on Terror" is an oxymoron
It gets old people to lock their doors at night. It appeals to base human instincts of racism. it also scares the hell out of the ill informed. Apparently CHIMPANZEE McSHRUB'S power base.
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slack Donating Member (250 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-18-04 07:03 AM
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15. Myers? The guy who hold interceptors down on 9/11 ?
A german journalist says (very smart), "War on Terror" is ridiculous, Terror is a method, like Blitzkrieg is a method. How do you want to fight against a method? How do you fight against Blitzkrieg? Terror is the weapon of the weak.
I don't think it's clever to pull out the european soldiers out of Irak, I think Europe should send more troops to support the USA, because Irak is a worldwide problem and a civil war or a second Iran couldn't be a solution. Perhaps is a new beginning possible after a regime change in the USA. But I think with Bush or strange Generals like Myers, there is no way for a majority.
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truthspeaker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-18-04 07:13 AM
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16. Appeasing is what we did with Franco
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Cocoa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-18-04 08:48 AM
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19. Myers can be safely ignored
he's worthless and he's a liar.


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saigon68 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-18-04 12:07 PM
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21. But then this hits the Fan
http://www.thestar.com/NASApp/cs/ContentServer?pagename=thestar/Layout/Article_Type1&c=Article&cid=1079565010386&call_pageid=968332188854&col=968350060724

WASHINGTON—Gen. Richard Myers had just wrapped up 45 minutes of upbeat news on the U.S.-led Iraqi mission, punctuating his remarks with a reminder to foreign reporters that none of their home countries can hide from the war on terrorism.

In the time it took to whisk him from the 8th floor National Press Building briefing room to a waiting vehicle, every television monitor in the building was carrying live coverage of yesterday's massive car bombing in the centre of Baghdad, which killed at least 27.
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BiggJawn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-18-04 12:16 PM
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22. Getting the September campaign ad ready...
Edited on Thu Mar-18-04 12:16 PM by BiggJawn
"In these uncertain times, we NEED to stay the course with Steady Leadership(tm)...To do anything else (like vote for that OTHER guy) is to send a message to the Terra-ist that our Resolve is weak, that we don't have the Heart to Fight anymore...In other words, Vote for Bush, or the TERRA-ISTS WIN!" (hey, worked for Hitler, didn't it?)

Gonna take the show out of town first, to fine tune it before bringing it back for it's Broadway Debut....
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saigon68 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-18-04 12:57 PM
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24. Priceless analysis
You hit it right on the head.

No screaming mothers demanding food for their kids

No grieving, blaming gold star mothers.

No homeless or unemployed workers

Just Flags, spit shined troops and BULLSHIT Rhetoric
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ConcernedCanuk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-18-04 12:56 PM
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23. "U.S. military officer warned . . . "
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Gawwwwwwwwwwwd . .

I'm getting sick of all their blather

I think I need a dose of the Lounge!



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