Justice's Wife(Thomas) Launches 'Tea Party' Group

[Purveyor]

Source: LA TIMES

As Virginia Thomas tells it in her soft-spoken, Midwestern cadence, the story of her involvement in the "tea party" movement is the tale of an average citizen in action.

"I am an ordinary citizen from Omaha, Neb., who just may have the chance to preserve liberty along with you and other people like you," she said at a recent panel discussion with tea party leaders in Washington. Thomas went on to count herself among those energized into action by President Obama's "hard-left agenda."

--CLIP
She is the wife of Supreme Court Justice Clarence Thomas, and she has launched a tea-party-linked group that could test the traditional notions of political impartiality for the court.

In January, Virginia Thomas created Liberty Central Inc., a nonprofit lobbying group whose website will organize activism around a set of conservative "core principles," she said.

The group plans to issue score cards for Congress members and be involved in the November election, although Thomas would not specify how. She said it would accept donations from various sources -- including corporations -- as allowed under campaign finance rules recently loosened by the Supreme Court.

"I adore all the new citizen patriots who are rising up across this country," Thomas, who goes by Ginni, said on the panel at the Conservative Political Action Conference. "I have felt called to the front lines with you, with my fellow citizens, to preserve what made America great."

Read more: http://www.latimes.com/news/nation-and-world/la-na-thomas14-2010mar14,0,6505384.story

[nadinbrzezinski]

1. I know she technically is free to do it

but protocol, yes that word Stevens is in so much love with... after the SOTU... oh never mind...

That is oh so damn yesterday or last year it is not even funny.

[hlthe2b]

25. Stevens?

Stevens is one of the good progressives.... Did you mean Thomas? :shrug:

[caraher]

28. I think maybe Roberts

after his whining about the State of the Union and Obama calling out those poor justices when all they could do in response was mouth objections and roll their eyes

[nadinbrzezinski]

113. I meant Roberts, sorry

the Chief Justice, who complained about being scolded during the SOTU for ahem a certain recent decision.

[SharonAnn]

54. It's probably another part of the Opus Dei agenda that she and her husband have followed.

[saigon68]

61. The Opus Dei Agenda

[JoeyTrib]

89. What is "the Opus Dei agenda" ?

Thanks.

[liberation]

92. Its an ultra orthodox catholic organization

At a basic level, the Opus Dei and the Legionaries of Christ want to replace traditional Catholic orders (Jesuits, especially, as well as Franciscans et al) as the power brokers in the Vatican. Their agenda is a return to ultra orthodox catholicism, i.e. a fairly ultra conservative interpretation of the Church. They also want the Vatican to reestablish their political influence, and in order to do so... the Opus Dei has infiltrated the power structures (ministers, judges, etc) of many catholic countries (esp. Southern Europe and South/Central America).

So it is not that they have an "agenda" as much as they are simply interesting in creating an alternative power structure that is addressed by interests in the Vatican. However, there are are aspects of their approach that is so conservative and utterly batshit insane and cooky that is rather frightening. They really want to return things back to the old status before the reform movement in the middle ages, where the Catholic church was the absolute power broker.

[JoeyTrib]

93. How does getting secular positions help them get power in the church?

Sorry, I just don't know much about the Catholic power structure.

[liberation]

96. I think you got it backwards:

It is not about using secular positions to gain power in the church. But it is rather about gaining power in civil structures (government, private companies, etc) in order to have access to influence and decision making that affects society. That influence is supposed to be in line with the interests and wishes of the Vatican. And in order to make sure those "interests and wishes" from the Vatican are the "correct ones" they are also gaining influence inside the Vatican. And they do so by replacing old power brokers inside the church (esp. as I said the Jesuits who were relatively "sane")

It is a parallel thing: they are gaining power in the church directly via ordered members of the Opus Dei. And at the same time, a lot of ultra orthodox non-ordered (i.e. "civilians" anyone who is not an ordered priest/nun) members of Opus Dei are also gaining power inside state and private power structures. Opus Dei have a lot of very wealthy and influential people among their members.


Catholic organizations tend to be made of ordered priests/brothers/friars/nuns and unordered "civilians" who follow the mandates of the ordered members.

I American terms, think of the civilian members of the Opus Dei in "high" places as the lobbyist/bought public officials. And the ordered members of the Opus Dei inside the Vatican, as the management in the private sector trying to influence public policy via their embedded lobbyist/paid public officials. Not a fully correct analogy but sort of illustrative to give an idea... Basically Opus Dei et al are trying to undermine the whole "separation of church and state" in modern democratic societies, via a back door/submarine approach.

[JoeyTrib]

121. So the Opus Dei folks influence national policy and then get more power in the church?

I hope I understand this right.

Somebody wealthy and influential becomes a member of Opus Dei.
This person gets in a secular position
This person makes decisions based on church mandates from ordered members?
The ordered members give the secular people more power?

[SharonAnn]

136. They want power in the secular world, to force it to follow the Church

They are trying to control the world, basically.

Their big government supporters have been Generalissimo Francisco Franco, Gen. Augusto Pinochet, president Alberto Fujimori (Peru).

At least 4 members of the Supreme Court of the United States are suspected of being Opus Dei members. Louis Freeh, head of the FBI is a member. So is Robert Hanssen, the FBI employee who spied for Russia.

They are really about domination and that's why they are after secular power. Without that, they wouldn't have nearly as much power to dominate others.

[glinda]

108. That is because Jesuits and Franciscans have brains and research and study....

[liberation]

90. Are they Opus Dei?

I was not aware of that. If that is the case, this makes me even more uneasy. Those people make scientologists almost look sane.

[Bicoastal]

2. "She said it would accept donations from various sources -- including corporations -- as allowed...

...under campaign finance rules recently loosened by the Supreme Court."

Upon which her husband currently sits.

Ho-ly SHIT.

[Tx4obama]

10. Yeah - WOW - just WOW !!! Ditto on the Ho-ly SHIT. n/t

[No Elephants]

13. +1

[fasttense]

22. I wonder how much of that is going to line her and her hubby's pockets?

Talk about conflict of interest.

Now we know why they made corporation people too. So, they get get in on the corporate bribery.

the Dancing Supremes dancing for their masters - the almighty dollar.

They should declare the dollar bill the one true God of America in their next decision.

[SpiralHawk]

26. +1

ptoooey on Corporate America (R)

[avaistheone1]

80. +1000000

Shameful.

[mod mom]

39. unbelievable!

[tom_paine]

62. Things are so far gone, they don't even bother trying to hide naked corruption and conflict of

interest.

If you haven't noticed, "conflict of interest" is not something, like so many laws, that apply to the Imperial Ruling Class.

[Uncle Joe]

140. That's what the robes are for but they might as well be hospital gowns

because their asses are showing.

The way I understand "conflict of interest" for regular Americans, even the appearance of it can get you in trouble whether there is actual intentional corruption or not.

[sellitman]

65. How to fund the "Tea Party" 101

A.) Get husband to change the rules.

B) Get money

Pretty simple huh? Pretty fucking scary too.

[bc3000]

74. It's a great reason to boot him from the court.

[24601]

142. If we start booting people because of spouses....1. It's likely not

constitutional ans 2. There goes half of congress - For example, do you really want to say good-by to John Conyers?

Unless they get appropriations - like first ladies, they are all private citizens and the government needs to butt out, period.

[CoffeeCat]

86. I am sitting here laughing...

...because our country has gone SO totally outer limits.

It's just bizarre at how classless, lawless and brazen the people are
who have reached the upper echelons.

[Mithreal]

119. +1

[Demoiselle]

112. O M G. It sure sounds like a conspiracy, doesn't it!

Supreme Court Justice's wife eagerly announces she will accept the corporate donations just render legal by hubby and his four right wing friends on SOTU.

[Zoeisright]

3. So she's as self-loathing and dumb as he is, huh?

What a couple of fucking idiots.

[aquart]

5. Well, to me, this is the very appearance of impropriety.

Possibly even its definition.

[smalll]

6. Um, she's white. So you might want to cut back on the "self-loathing" comments here. /nt

[aquart]

11. Umm, why?

There are no self-loathing white people?

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[Hansel]

41. She is a woman. That's enough. nt

[zbdent]

46. It seems that the Repugs are the ones who say that the white women

dating "out of their race" are the self-loathing women ... so she must qualify, under their standards, to be self-loathing.

That is, unless you believe that the KKK is against conservatives, and embrace the "liberal party" ...

[NOLALady]

79. You're kidding, right?

Only blacks are self loathing? :crazy:

[BlueMTexpat]

16. They truly deserve one another.

Allowing Thomas, patently the least-qualified nominee ever to be appointed to the SCOTUS, to be confirmed was one of the red flag milestones demonstrating that Dems' spines were turning to jelly. They allowed themselves to be stampeded by Thomas's infamous "high-tech lynching" statement, rather than focusing on the fact that he simply was not qualified in any legal capacity ... especially not for a seat once occupied by the late and great Thurgood Marshall.

Bush I was every bit as bad as his son, IMO. He was even worse in some ways because he didn't have basic incuriousity and Dick Cheney as his Svengali for excuses. His deliberately cynical selection of Quayle (almost as dumb as Sarah Palin) as a running mate and Thomas for the SC are only two of the many actions that revealed his total lack of character.

:puke:

Much as I detest Roberts and Alito for their ideology (and those Dems who confirmed them for doing so), they were at least arguably "qualified" in terms of their legal background and practice.

[hfojvt]

18. except that the vast majority of dems voted against him

"The final floor vote was mostly along party lines: 41 Republicans and 11 Democrats voted to confirm while 46 Democrats and two Republicans voted to reject the nomination."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clarence_Thomas#Supreme_Court_nomination_and_confirmation

So Democrats voted against him by 46-11.

Amd I disagree about Roberts. He had far less judicial experience than anyone else on the court and he was nominated to Chief Justice?

Also, Bush also put the liberal David Souter on the court.

[BlueMTexpat]

125. The fact that ANY Dems voted for him was reprehensible ...

to do so in double digits was shocking and clearly a sign that Dems could be stampeded to vote as Republicans wanted them to, which has shown itself to have been the case since and even today.

At the time he was appointed, David Souter was an enigma. Had he even been suspected to be "liberal," no Republican would have voted to confirm him.

Clarence Thomas was the ONLY appointee ever not to receive ABA approval.

[RayStar]

29. Shame on V and C Thomas

Great post BlueMT. Everything about her involvement in this messed up dividing the country movement. should be illegal for the spouse of a sitting member on the Supreme Court of the USA.

[rooboy]

4. Anything to get her out of the house...

whilst Clarence is busy beating off to porn.

[KansDem]

137. ...or looking for pubic hairs in his Coke.

Which brings up this joke:

What did Clarence Thomas say when a soft drink was spilled in his lap? "Hey! Who put the Coke in my pubic hair?!

[Historic NY]

7. Isn't it really a conflict of interest?

[MrScorpio]

8. There no point in pretense now, is there?

Oh well

[Golden Raisin]

20. There hasn't been for about

the last 50 years.

[Morning Dew]

9. "There's a pubic hair in my tea."

[proud2BlibKansan]

14. LOL

:rofl:

[City Lights]

50. LOL!

:rofl:

[crazylikafox]

81. DUZY alert!

[msanthrope]

82. Long Dong, is that you?

[upi402]

12. She thought Anita Hill was in love with her man

She told People magazine that anyway. If she's that looney, then she could ally with people that hate her husband for the skin tone god gave him.

[troubledamerican]

15. Silver Shirts? Or the A. L. L.?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Liberty_League

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Silver_Legion_of_America

[Tx4obama]

17. Here's a link to her bio at Liberty Central, Inc.

Virginia 'Ginni' Thomas
http://www.libertycentral.org/bio.html

[unhappycamper]

21. Anyone who has Donny Rumsfeld shilling for her should go down in flames.

”Ginni Thomas has been a good friend for years. I followed her work at the Heritage Foundation and more recently at Hillsdale College. Like so many others, I am impressed by the energy and enthusiasm Ginni Thomas brings to the cause of freedom and individual rights. Ginni can help channel the frustration felt by millions across America at the current course of our country. Leaders committed to smaller government, fiscal prudence, and a strong national defense will be returning to Washington D.C., and I am confident that Ginni Thomas will be part of the reason it will happen.”
Donald Rumsfeld, former Secretary of Defense

[Red Knight]

44. Nice bio

Ginni is a new social entrepreneur and the Founder of Liberty Central, Inc.

Ginni is excited about launching LibertyCentral.org and finds the new citizen activists inspirational! She brings passion, enthusiasm and principled participation to the public square. With 30 years of experience within the Washington beltway working alongside esteemed politicians like Dick Armey and for institutions like Hillsdale College, the Heritage Foundation and the U.S. Chamber of Commerce, Ginni is committed to serving as a clearinghouse for new and more effective online activism. Ginni, the ‘proud’ Nebraskan, is a fan of Rush Limbaugh, Mark Levin and Laura Ingraham and other talk radio hosts. She is intrigued by Glenn Beck and listening carefully. She also enjoys motor homing and watching "24".

That about says it all.

Goodnight America.

[CoffeeCat]

88. Clarence Thomas officiated at Limbaugh's wedding...

Thomas and his wife dine regularly with their good friend Limbaugh.

Rush flaunts their friendship and how they're often his dinner-party guests.

[Mithreal]

120. Parody personified.

[rasputin1952]

19. Oh boy...

after the USSC ruling about Corp's...this might get interesting...;)

[craigmatic]

23. It seems like this should be illegal. It's at least in bad taste and just looks wrong.

[kestrel91316]

64. Well, IIRC tthe USSC recently said it was perfectly acceptable.

[WCGreen]

24. Ah, so that's where they got the Pubic Option from....

Now it All makes sense.

[Cass]

27. She's painting Obama as an enemy of the state here with her choice of words..

She says she was enegized to action by Pres Obama's "hard left agenda" and adores all the new "citizen patriots who are rising up across the country". She wants to "preserve liberty" and is called to the "front lines... to preserve what made America great".

This is the demonization of Pres Obama, I find this kind of talk disturbing coming from the wife of a USSC justice. She may be legally entitled to do what she's doing but it crosses a line, imo. I bet she's a birther, too.

I think this is a huge conflict of interest. Just imagine how the right would have reacted if Souter's wife had done something like this using this kind of language when Junior was in office.

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[thereismore]

30. Ginni is a teabag specimen if you ever saw one. (very little pigmentation...did I say pig? oh noes)

[newspeak]

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* was selected by the Supreme Court over Gore who not only held the popular vote but did win Florida. When those in the previous administration warned * that terrorism would be their number one priority and Richard Clarke had a discussion with members of the new administration about terrorism and that same administration blows off the august PDB report and seems more interested in busting hookers and people like Tommy Chong-then *'s administration deserves the criticism. How many times he joked with his constituents that he had hit the trifecta? How many tasteless jokes about looking for WMD? He lied us into Iraq, putting our soldiers in harms way while giving his corporate war profiteering greed buddies carte blanche to rape and pillage us as well as the Iraqis. How much money is unaccounted for because of the last administration's actions? How about Cheney's secrect energy meeting with all his special oil buddies?

I have criticized some of Obama's actions and choices--but I know who, what and why we are in the mess we're in today. Before * was selected, I knew about his alleged insider trading, his business dealings, the investigations (of two individuals he chose) while he was governor of Texas-I know his DL was purged, his military record is suspect and his drug usage was glossed over. I also know he believed big time in deregulation and allowing corporations to police themselves. So, he deserved and still deserves the criticism.

[southern_belle]

31. OMG! :(

[UpInArms]

32. George HW Shitwad Bush - the gift that keeps on giving

eom

[Bluenorthwest]

33. This puts the Supreme Court in the run a mill celebrity circuit

They are now open to be covered like any other set of attention seeking, money motivated spotlight seekers. They should, each member, be photographed where ever they go, stories about each thing they do, their wives, children, the works. Supreme Court, Superstar. They asked for it.

[defendandprotect]

67. Right wing politicizing of all of government tends to do that -- !!

Agree with you!!!

:)

[butterfly77]

106. We can only hope ..

with our so called liberal media.

Nothing seems to be outrageous to the so called media until it is usually to far gone then they want to blame the wrong people when they know full well who did what whatever the issue.

[bongbong]

34. They top themselves

Every time you think the pigs can't go any lower - they do.

I'm sure "Snoring Clarence" is already thinking of ways to spend his bribes.

[Tsiyu]

35. This absolutely proves Teabaggers are mentally ill

"Hard Left?" What the hell is this idiot woman talking about?

He's sent more troops to Afghanistan, re-authorized the Patriot Act, kept the same folks (essentially) in charge of the fed that Boosh installed, yada, yada, yada.


If Obama is "hard left" then so the hell is Boosh.

And rummy's comments in another post on this thread about "fiscal prudence" just chap my ass.

These people truly are delusional and should be locked up for their own protection.

The conflict of interest is troubling, but if Ginni-Married-A-Letch Thomas actually believes Obama is hard left, she is seriously a danger to herself.

[RedRoses323]

42. +1

:toast:

[RUMMYisFROSTED]

58. It's all a matter of perspective.

Obama's center-right politics appear hard-left from way out on the fringe.

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[RedRoses323]

43. LOL...

:rofl:

[ck4829]

37. And it's going to repeat whatever Mrs. Scalia's Tea Party group is going to do or say

Bet on it.

[TheCowsCameHome]

45. "Tough Tony's Tea Totalers"

Catchy, don't you think?

[Spazito]

38. Wow...just Wow!

:wow:

[msanthrope]

40. So per Citizen's United, she gets unlimited $$$--and what was Roberts bitching

about????

[Gin]

48. she listens to beck....that says it all....give her enough time

and she will make a mistake and take both of them down!

YES!!!!!!!!

[Warren Stupidity]

77. Hey I listen to Beck!

Oh wait, not that Beck? Oh, never mind.

[msanthrope]

83. We meant the 'Loser.' Not the one who sings 'Loser.' Keep up. :-)

[saigon68]

143. Losers

[MrMickeysMom]

47. Hey, I guess this gives the green flag to gather all the knuckle draggers in...,

Now that her hubby's disgusting majority of the SCOTUS paved the way, "Ginni" is free to call out the droids who don't read their history or understand how to gather news and use a dictionary. Let's watch her in disgust gather clusters of these disgusting tea baggers, pretending higher institutions of learning endorse their cause. Gee, I can imagine future generations looking back at this time... "How stupid and powerful did these people become?"

Next up, watch their tradename logo... sponsored by Coke and the coalition of public hairs.

[LynneSin]

49. She's probably doing this because Mrs Scalia told her too....

since we all know Clarence Thomas doesn't do anything that wasn't told to him by Scalia

[Bette Noir]

51. I wish Mr. President had a "hard-left agenda."

[The Backlash Cometh]

52. I guess this Tea Party organization is taking the place of the Christian Right

Mindless voters they can count on.

[Maineman]

104. Exactly. The Republican Party represents a minority...

a minority of wealthy elite. As a minority, they cannot win elections, so they manipulate various groups by using sidecar issues - religion, abortion, fear, screams of socialism, etc. to trick foolish, uninformed, blindly obedient voters into voting for the agenda of the wealthy and against their own interests. The Tea Parties are another trick by those behind the scenes to recruit voters. Republicans have, to a significant extent, used up the religious groups, so they need to move on to another group they can manipulate and use to get power.

[ensho]

53. she is not an ordinary citizen - she sleeps with a Supreme

let her start a tea party all she wants. that just shows the world that she and hubby are neo cons of the first order.

[The Wizard]

55. She was on the Bush transition team

when her husband ruled to make Bush president. It's called a conflict of interest, and he should have recused himself as Scalia should have recused himself as his son worked for the firm representing Bush.
For the above reasons, both should be impeached now, but Democrats don't have the nuts to confront loud mouthed, prevaricating Republicans and their corporate media handmaidens along with corporate elites offering bribes.

[newspeak]

73. yes, how many realize what really went down in 2000?

Both, Thomas and Scalia should have recused themselves during the election because of conflict of interest. I have little respect for most of the Supremes-since 2000, I haven't seen impartiality, but blatant partisanship from the Rw court. I believe, both Scalia and Thomas should have been impeached for not recusing themselves during a crucial electoral decision.

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[Doremus]

56. Horrible. And a preview of future acts in our new oligarchy.

Iceburg dead ahead.

[lunatica]

57. It looks like conflict of interest

Isn't the Supreme Court supposed to be apolitical? And aren't spouses part of the whole conflict of interest thing? Shit!

[onenote]

144. do you believe that all spouses of all judges should be barred from involvment in political causes?

After all, all judges, not just SCOTUS justices, are supposed to be "apolitical" in some sense. But I thought we'd moved past the point where a person's spouse is just an extension of that person. Should the spouses of judges/justices confine themselves to hosting tea parties and giving tours of the court?

I disagree substantively with what Thomas' wife's organization stands for, but if another judge or justice had a spouse that helped create and run an organization that sought to promote climate change awareness, or gay rights, or women's rights, or some other poltical cause, I'd defend that person against the inevitable attacks that would come from the right wing. And, keeping with that same principle, I'll defend Thomas' wife's right to get involved in political causes from the other side. If and when a case arises in which her involvement posed an actual conflict of interest -- such as her group filing an amicus brief or being a party to a case, then I would strongly advocate for Thomas' recusal from that case.

But my progressive instincts are to allow women who are married to public figures to have their own lives and not merely be appendages.

[jwirr]

59. I wonder if it has ever occurred to her that most of those

loves so much do not accept her mixed marriage to the judge?

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[CountAllVotes]

60. born in 1957

She is younger than I am and married to this freak. I guess they deserve one another!

:grr:


:kick:

[Jefferson23]

63. Hey, at least any shred of a veil has now been removed.

And her version of the tea party movement should be followed closely, as I imagine it will be the faction of pseudo activists that in reality are corporate whores who desire to remain in control.

[Cha]

68. +1

[defendandprotect]

66. Mrs. Clarence is just to the right of "Atilla the Hun" . . . !!!

[Triana]

69. The 'traditional notions of political impartiality' for the court were royally flushed for me...

...way back in 2000/2001.

They are a bunch of politically extremeist wingnut clowns with far too much authority and zero credibility, IMO.

They wouldn't know truth or justice if it jumped up and ripped their fool faces off. And that being the case, they've NO business on that court - or ANY court.

[Triana]

70. Why don't we just call the "Supreme Court" The Teabagger's Court?

Because that's what it is. Since all pretense, as previous posters say, has been removed, let's just call a damned spade a spade, shall we?

[teknomanzer]

71. Grassroots my ass...

The tea party movement is pure top down astroturf. This proves it... just another way to use corporate money to create the appearance of a popular movement.

[Solly Mack]

72. "I adore all the new citizen patriots ..."

Snicker

[xxqqqzme]

75. '...preserve what made America great....'

"As Mankind becomes more liberal, they will be more apt to allow that all those who conduct themselves as worthy members of the community are equally entitled to the protections of civil government. I hope ever to see America among the foremost nations of justice and liberality."
-- George Washington

Is that what she is talking about preserving?

[Warren Stupidity]

76. Ah, well now I know more about this person than I ever needed to know.

She is a fruitloop. See the wiki page on her here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virginia_Lamp_Thomas which runs one smack into Lifespring, which runs one to this wiki: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lifespring where we find EST and Werner Erhard. Oh my. The lunatics are on the march. The lunatic is in the hall (of justice.)

[Clyde39]

78. One more notch in lost SC credibility

The Bush 'family' has ruined the Supreme Court!

[earcandle]

84. This is a conflict of interest and Thomas should step down. He cannot represent Americans and have

this kind of preference filtering his decision making for
those of us against this kind of mentality. 

[AlbertCat]

85. "I am an ordinary citizen from Omaha, Neb.,

She is the wife of Supreme Court Justice Clarence Thomas,

"Um, she's white."


*****

See...just an ordinary citizen! :eyes: from Omaha! :eyes: :eyes:

Just like Joe Lieberman is an average middle class dude (with 3 houses)

[Goldstein1984]

87. This has become, plain and simple...

A war against the ruling elite, and those stupid or corrupt enough to join them, against the masses.

As a post above noted, they feel so in control, so empowered, that they don't even pretend to hide what they are doing.

How long before we wake up to the reality that we are in a war, and we're losing because we deny that simple fact?

[AlbertCat]

91. the reality that we are in a war,

Are you advocating violence? Because I don't see how you can be at war without it.

"War" is one of those words that has lost its meaning. We have "war" on poverty and "war" on drugs and "war" on terror. But not every conflict is a "war".... and war is not the solution to every conflict.

[liberation]

94. There are many kinds of violence, not just physical

There is indeed and has always been a class since day 1. You can sing kumbaya all you want, but that very fact that there is a class war going on is not going to change... in the sames sense that picking up the guitar and wishing well ain't going to make a virulent cancer "go away."

Now, "fighting" a class war does not imply physical violence. But it involves organization and education, and at least being conscious of the fact that we are being victimized at a very basic level (be it economically, socially, etc). And we can not start to amend those issues, unless we are aware of that very fact. Denial and appeals to political correctness are not the best way to track the problem IMHO.

[AlbertCat]

95. Denial and appeals to political correctness are not the best way to track the problem IMHO.

Nor in mine.

Neither is hyperbole.

[Goldstein1984]

103. War can be nonviolent

I'd prefer boycotts of nonessential spending and general strikes as tactics.

There can also be wars of semantics, where the debate about real issues is clouded by arguments about the vocabulary being used.

It's always amusing to witness the tactics of obfuscation on DU.

If you'll excuse me, I have larger battles to fight. The last word is yours.

[benld74]

97. Troubling,Very Troubling indeed,,,

[harun]

98. Wants to get in on the astro-turfing nonsense.

[kiranon]

99. Another reason why Pres. Obama needs a second term. Then he can appoint

enough new justices to the Supreme Court to out number the far right wing of the Court.

[upi402]

100. Ture, IF he appoints liberals

But anything in the center will SEEM liberal now I suppose.

[fascisthunter]

101. wow...the fascist creating a populist front

all orchestrated by a wealthy fascist elite.

[NICO9000]

102. Conflicts of interest mean nothing to these types

It doesn't have to. They do whatever the fuck they want to and anybody whop questions them is a traitor. Pretty easy, eh?

:puke:

[Maineman]

105. Yea. If their brain does not compute ethics, then conflict of interest does not exist.

[BrklynLiberal]

107. Figures...Will he recuse himself if a case involving the Tea Party comes before him?

[glinda]

109. This Country going awol is making me sick

[TheeHazelnut]

110. ClarenceThomas eulogized the wife of the man who argued Bush v. Gore for him to decide on

Ted Olson's wife spoke as a friendly witness for Clarence Thomas's confirmation for the Supreme Court, then Ted Olson argued the case of Bush v. Gore in front of Clarence Thomas (guess which way he voted!), then Clarence Thomas eulogized Ted Olson's wife at her funeral. We've been through the looking glass on "conflict of interest" for a long time now and the media has never thought it worth mentioning.

[Dappleganger]

111. Impeach the rat bastard!

Sorry, I'm in NO MOOD to argue. Just impeach that summabitch and the other activist judges.

[april]

114. oh this just to too 2 much !

[valerief]

115. This government is a joke. nt

[unkachuck]

116. a tea toten'....

....Auntie Thomas from Omaha....I'm impressed, but yet, disappointed with Ginni....where is the decorum, the protocol, the judicial restraint, the separation of powers, the respect for our Constitution, the respect for our governmental institutions?

"I have felt called to the front lines with you..."

....if the Founding Fathers had intended the spouse of a Supreme Court Justice to schlog ankle-deep in the political muck with the likes of Karl Rove, they would have subjected her oldman to elections....oh, the humanity....

[cornermouse]

117. Who cares.

She's a twit just like Palin and has just as little validity.

[Guilded Lilly]

118. shaking my head

because anything I can say has already been said and as usual, we have NO power to stop this insane government from pimping my country to the highest bidders.

[Wednesdays]

122. K&R

:kick:

[DFW]

123. "test the traditional notions of political impartiality??"

When has Clarence Thomas EVER been deemed "impartial?"

The notions of impartiality on the Supreme Court were tossed out the window with Rehnquist, Scalia, Thomas, Roberts and Alito.

Any such notions still existing are strictly in the minds of those who voted for the above-mentioned judicial embarrassments.

[gtar100]

124. "I am an ordinary citizen from Omaha, Neb.,"

Oh really? Does that mean most citizens in Omaha are married to someone who's unqualified for their job?

[Tx4obama]

126. THIS ARTICLE

should stay at the top of the DU front page until CNN, MSNBC, The AP, etc. pick it up!
The only place I've seen it so far is DU, LA Times, and Huffington Post.
We ALL need to email the LA Times article link to ALL media outlets! ;)

[Tx4obama]

128. The Daily Beast & Drudge have a link to the story. Where is CNN, MSNBC, The AP, etc ??? n/t

[Tx4obama]

138. Ed on The Ed Show is going to talk about it !!! And now there's a front page link on FoxNews

Here's the FoxNews link:
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2010/03/15/justice-thomas-wife-joins-tea-party-groups-launches-new-organization/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%253A+foxnews%252Fpolitics+%2528Text+-+Politics%2529
Excerpt:
.... But reports of the new organization generated some criticism that Thomas could be setting up a conflict of interest for her husband -- should, for instance, the justice consider a case involving one of her donors.

Democratic strategist Dan Gerstein said he's not "bothered" by that scenario, but that it could create problems if her group does not disclose its donors.

"That is probably the most legitimate criticism in terms of this question of who's influencing whom," he said.

Fox News contributor Stephen Hayes said the critiques of Thomas are "absurd."

"What is Virginia Thomas supposed to do? Sit down and be quiet?" he said. "Where are the same people who for years have been saying that women live separate lives, they should have a successful career?"

Full article here: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2010/03/15/justice-thomas-wife-joins-tea-party-groups-launches-new-organization/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%253A+foxnews%252Fpolitics+%2528Text+-+Politics%2529

[Tx4obama]

139. Ed, ya didn't go very well ;(

They didn't focus on the fact that the donations to Liberty Central, Inc by corporations will be unlimited and undisclosed -- and they didn't say that Justice Thomas should have to recuse himself from any cases that involve the 'donors' - they only mentioned that Thomas should recuse himself from Tea Party SCOTUS cases ;(
I'm disappointed in the segment.
Hopefully Rachel Maddow will report more in depth!

[OneBlueSky]

127. Hooray!!! The US of A has finally reached "reductio ad absurdum" status . . .

the whole fucking country has been reduced to one humongous absurdity, and this is merely the latest (and brightest) shining example -- and the one that actually put us over the top! . . . yay, US!!! . . .

USA! USA! USA! . . .:silly:

[catgirl]

129. Yuck n/t

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[Tx4obama]

141. Link to new article: How to Bribe a Supreme Court Justice

Link to new article:
How to Bribe a Supreme Court Justice
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/michael-kieschnick/how-to-bribe-a-supreme-co_b_498693.html