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Towlie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-16-10 01:17 PM Original message |
Death penalty dead and buried as (Australian) Parliament bans it for good |
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Jefferson23 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-16-10 01:53 PM Response to Original message |
1. Applause, applause! |
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Ignis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-16-10 01:56 PM Response to Original message |
2. Great news. |
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ColesCountyDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-16-10 02:07 PM Response to Original message |
3. Good! |
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Imajika (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-16-10 02:28 PM Response to Original message |
4. Nothing can be banned for good... |
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Commie Pinko Dirtbag (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-16-10 02:56 PM Response to Reply #4 |
7. Yes, but it'll be harder. -nt |
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liberalhistorian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-16-10 02:39 PM Response to Original message |
5. Good. Too bad we can't |
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Xenotime (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-16-10 02:40 PM Response to Original message |
6. I might have to move there if HCR doesn't pass. |
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Libertas1776 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-16-10 06:04 PM Response to Original message |
8. The reality is that America is just |
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depakid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-16-10 07:03 PM Response to Reply #8 |
12. Actually, if the Supreme Court had used different legal reasoning 38 years ago |
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Libertas1776 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-16-10 07:18 PM Response to Reply #12 |
16. Yes, unfortunately |
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rpannier (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-17-10 01:00 AM Response to Reply #8 |
50. I thought the French Government did in the 1790's for a short period |
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Libertas1776 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-17-10 01:28 AM Response to Reply #50 |
54. If they did, they would be the first French Speaking Govt to do so |
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rpannier (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-17-10 01:31 AM Response to Reply #54 |
55. Sorry |
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DavidDvorkin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-16-10 06:09 PM Response to Original message |
9. Good for them! |
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proteus_lives (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-16-10 06:37 PM Response to Original message |
10. "Backward and barbaric"? |
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prolesunited (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-16-10 07:00 PM Response to Reply #10 |
11. Why? |
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proteus_lives (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-16-10 07:38 PM Response to Reply #11 |
18. The absence of murderers and rapists. |
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Occulus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-16-10 07:59 PM Response to Reply #18 |
21. Go tell that to the |
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Ignis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-16-10 08:05 PM Response to Reply #21 |
22. +1, but expect *crickets* from the blood-thirsty. (nt) |
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proteus_lives (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-16-10 10:22 PM Response to Reply #21 |
27. By that logic, we shouldn't have prisons either. |
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mvd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-16-10 10:27 PM Response to Reply #27 |
30. You don't die when sent to prison |
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proteus_lives (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-16-10 10:43 PM Response to Reply #30 |
34. That that to all the dead from attacks, poor medical care and suicides. |
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mvd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-16-10 10:44 PM Response to Reply #34 |
36. It's still a life that can't be brought back |
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The Doctor. (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-16-10 11:04 PM Response to Reply #18 |
39. That's a joke, right? |
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proteus_lives (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-16-10 11:52 PM Response to Reply #39 |
43. Murderers and rapists in jail. |
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The Doctor. (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-17-10 12:01 AM Response to Reply #43 |
44. So it costs less to execute them? |
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proteus_lives (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-17-10 12:49 AM Response to Reply #44 |
48. I don't know, would you? |
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The Doctor. (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-17-10 12:04 PM Response to Reply #48 |
75. WTF does that have to do with anything? |
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ronnie624 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-17-10 12:31 AM Response to Reply #43 |
45. So the innocent don't die along with the guilty. n/t |
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ImOnlySleeping (131 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-17-10 07:37 AM Response to Reply #43 |
69. $ |
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Ignis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-17-10 02:00 PM Response to Reply #69 |
78. Thanks for answering the cost question. |
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sabrina 1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-17-10 12:35 AM Response to Reply #18 |
47. Only 62 countries around the world still |
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FarrenH (485 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-17-10 01:11 PM Response to Reply #18 |
76. Assuming the person executed is actually guilty of course |
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nyc 4 Biden (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-17-10 01:35 PM Response to Reply #18 |
77. actually those who conduct the execution are technically murderers. |
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proteus_lives (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-18-10 01:34 PM Response to Reply #77 |
98. No. |
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LeftishBrit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-17-10 06:50 PM Response to Reply #18 |
88. Really? Is there any evidence that countries with the DP have fewer rapists or murderers than |
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proteus_lives (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-18-10 01:35 PM Response to Reply #88 |
99. Not what I was saying. |
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LeftishBrit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-18-10 05:29 PM Response to Reply #99 |
100. Only if they are not replaced by others. |
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depakid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-16-10 07:06 PM Response to Reply #10 |
13. Puts you in the same class with Saudi Arabia, Iran & China |
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proteus_lives (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-16-10 07:40 PM Response to Reply #13 |
19. Not really. |
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depakid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-16-10 07:50 PM Response to Reply #19 |
20. Of course it does! |
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proteus_lives (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-16-10 10:27 PM Response to Reply #20 |
29. Sorry, executing some for murder doesn't have any thing to do with religion. |
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mvd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-16-10 10:29 PM Response to Reply #29 |
31. And many don't agree, including me |
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proteus_lives (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-16-10 10:42 PM Response to Reply #31 |
33. That's fine with me. |
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mvd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-16-10 10:43 PM Response to Reply #33 |
35. Thank you for being respectful |
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Violet_Crumble (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-17-10 01:38 AM Response to Reply #33 |
56. Can I ask a question about yr POV? |
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proteus_lives (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-17-10 03:38 AM Response to Reply #56 |
58. You may. |
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Violet_Crumble (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-17-10 05:16 AM Response to Reply #58 |
64. Thanks for the thoughtful answer... |
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proteus_lives (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-17-10 05:27 AM Response to Reply #64 |
65. No problem. |
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depakid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-16-10 10:52 PM Response to Reply #29 |
37. Hint: there's a reason why executions are more popular and prevalent in Fundy states |
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Paladin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-16-10 08:21 PM Response to Reply #19 |
23. Not Much New From You, Either...... (n/t) |
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muriel_volestrangler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-16-10 08:22 PM Response to Reply #19 |
24. You do realise that killing people is far, far worse than selling the organs afterwards, don't you? |
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proteus_lives (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-16-10 10:25 PM Response to Reply #24 |
28. It's the black-market for organs and corrupt Chinese officials executing prisoners for their organs. |
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muriel_volestrangler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-17-10 04:14 AM Response to Reply #28 |
60. As opposed to US officials up for election, and keen to satisfy bloodthirsty voters |
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trumad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-17-10 06:43 AM Response to Reply #28 |
67. Question to you |
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proteus_lives (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-17-10 03:16 PM Response to Reply #67 |
79. Yes. |
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trumad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-17-10 04:47 PM Response to Reply #79 |
80. and you still support the death penalty? |
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proteus_lives (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-18-10 12:01 AM Response to Reply #80 |
91. Yes. |
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trumad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-18-10 05:28 AM Response to Reply #91 |
92. So |
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proteus_lives (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-18-10 08:35 AM Response to Reply #92 |
93. Greater good is an interesting way to put it. |
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trumad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-18-10 09:10 AM Response to Reply #93 |
94. You didn't answer my question |
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proteus_lives (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-18-10 11:20 AM Response to Reply #94 |
95. Because I believe far more guilty people have executed then innocent. |
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trumad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-18-10 12:40 PM Response to Reply #95 |
96. The system will never be 100 percent perfect....... |
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proteus_lives (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-18-10 01:32 PM Response to Reply #96 |
97. Perfection doesn't exist. |
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trumad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-17-10 04:47 PM Response to Reply #79 |
81. and you still support the death penalty? |
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time_has_come (872 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-16-10 07:17 PM Response to Reply #10 |
15. Being a DUer don't give you a pass... |
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Bill McBlueState (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-16-10 08:27 PM Response to Reply #10 |
25. A lot of Americans also support torture n/t |
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rpannier (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-17-10 12:57 AM Response to Reply #10 |
49. A lot of Americans support |
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Violet_Crumble (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-17-10 01:25 AM Response to Reply #10 |
53. Yes, it's backward and barbaric... |
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OneBlueSky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-17-10 04:52 AM Response to Reply #10 |
62. it all has to do with what kind of society a nation aspires to be . . . |
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proteus_lives (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-17-10 05:14 AM Response to Reply #62 |
63. I don't buy that. |
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Orsino (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-17-10 11:51 AM Response to Reply #10 |
74. The death penalty is backward and barbaric. n/t |
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JerseygirlCT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-17-10 07:13 PM Response to Reply #10 |
90. I'll wholeheartedly agree with backward and barbaric |
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Uncle Joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-16-10 07:10 PM Response to Original message |
14. Kicked and recommended for Australia's enlightenment. |
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time_has_come (872 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-16-10 07:18 PM Response to Original message |
17. Fabulous news. The DP is a cancer upon any society. n/t |
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troubledamerican (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-16-10 09:06 PM Response to Original message |
26. U.S. is miles & miles & miles & miles away from this type of civilized society |
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mvd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-16-10 10:42 PM Response to Reply #26 |
32. The company that the U.S. is in is telling.. |
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troubledamerican (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-16-10 10:56 PM Response to Reply #32 |
38. + 1 |
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kentauros (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-17-10 07:05 AM Response to Reply #32 |
68. I like all of your reasons and would add the following: |
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stevedeshazer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-16-10 11:13 PM Response to Original message |
40. +1 |
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Arugula Latte (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-16-10 11:29 PM Response to Original message |
41. Why are other countries so much more sane and civilized than ours? |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-16-10 11:44 PM Response to Original message |
42. Good for them . . . now we need to defeat it again here in the US . . . |
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G_j (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-17-10 12:32 AM Response to Original message |
46. Bravo! |
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canetoad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-17-10 01:08 AM Response to Original message |
51. Actually, it goes a little further than the death penalty |
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Loudmxr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-17-10 01:24 AM Response to Original message |
52. Here is why the Death Penalty is logically wrong. Briefly. |
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SeattleGirl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-17-10 03:15 AM Response to Original message |
57. Good! I wish we would do the same here. |
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rasputin1952 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-17-10 03:51 AM Response to Original message |
59. Kick... |
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spicegal (617 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-17-10 04:42 AM Response to Original message |
61. It has really become apparent how uncivilized our country really is, whether it's |
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Lorien (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-17-10 11:48 AM Response to Reply #61 |
73. We ARE moving backwards. Pre-Reagan we were a much more enlightened society |
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marmar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-17-10 06:08 AM Response to Original message |
66. A civilized and wise decision by Australia..... |
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myrna minx (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-17-10 07:54 AM Response to Original message |
70. K&R. Congratulations Australia. n/t |
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Bill McBlueState (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-17-10 09:26 AM Response to Original message |
71. When comparing this to the situation in the US, |
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Lorien (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-17-10 11:46 AM Response to Original message |
72. I guess the repugs won't want to move there anymore |
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anakie (935 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-17-10 04:56 PM Response to Original message |
82. Symbolic gesture |
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warm regards (350 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-17-10 05:32 PM Response to Original message |
83. That's what they said about the alcohol when they passed the 18th Amendment. |
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warm regards (350 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-17-10 05:44 PM Response to Original message |
84. Actually, I believe one could argue that it is backward and barbaric to afford |
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Posteritatis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-17-10 06:21 PM Response to Original message |
85. Nice to see a law from Australia that isn't obscene for once. (nt) |
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golfguru (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-17-10 06:30 PM Response to Original message |
86. I want death penalty remain for criminals who |
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dipsydoodle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-17-10 06:44 PM Response to Original message |
87. Doesn't make it clear |
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JerseygirlCT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-17-10 07:12 PM Response to Original message |
89. Good on them! nt |
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ProudDad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-18-10 10:40 PM Response to Original message |
101. K&R - Hear, Hear!!! (n/t) |
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ProudDad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-18-10 10:44 PM Response to Original message |
102. 10 Reasons to Oppose the Death Penalty |
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