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hang a left Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-18-04 11:53 PM
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China Army Mouthpiece Warns Taiwan on Referendum
Edited on Thu Mar-18-04 11:54 PM by liberalnproud
Mar 18, 10:43 pm ET
http://news.excite.com/world/article/id/41769|world|03-18-2004::22:49|reuters.html


BEIJING (Reuters) - On the eve of Taiwan's presidential elections, the mouthpiece of the Chinese military warned the island on Friday against holding its landmark referendum, but stopped short of spelling out the consequences.
China, which views Taiwan as a breakaway province, has been relatively restrained in its reaction to the referendum to be held alongside presidential elections on Saturday, ostensibly to avoid threats backfiring and helping the pro-independence President Chen Shui-bian's re-election bid.

Neither the government nor the media has repeated China's longstanding threat to attack the self-governed, democratic island of 23 million if it declares independence.

China's Liberation Army Daily said Pakistan, Brazil and the Czech Republic had issued statements this week warning against the referendum on boosting the island's missile defenses.

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Fenris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-18-04 11:56 PM
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1. Please, let's add another "whose penis is bigger" military conflict to the
mix! We don't have enough with all the shit that's going on now. Let's just throw the Taiwan/China dispute in.

We seem to be descending into Hell at a rapid pace these days.
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dArKeR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-19-04 01:11 AM
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4. The only one of the two who belongs in HELL is CHINA. Where are your
morals? Where are aWol's morals? Where are Robertson's and Falwell's morals? Where is America's honor?
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jayfish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-19-04 12:12 AM
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2. This Is Probably The Best Chance...
that China has to pacify Taiwan and get away with it. If they pass the referendum, of course. The US is in no position to defend Taiwan... period.


Jay
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Minstrel Boy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-19-04 12:17 AM
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3. In an election year, Bush would have to do something.
Even if it threatened the end of the world. Hell, he's already done that several times over.
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dArKeR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-19-04 01:12 AM
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5. Go to HELL Communist PIGS!
The Robert F. Kennedy of Asia, President Chen Shui Bian (Abian)
http://www.president.gov.tw (Taiwanese)
http://www.president.gov.tw/index_e.html (English)
http://www.scanews.com/collester/article3/article3.html



The book that built the Lien family.
Just when the family assets of Lien Chen-tung and his son Lien Chan became a hot election campaign issue, a dissertation written by academic Lin Yuan-huei.

The 30,000-character paper tells the reader that, during the era of Japanese occupation, both Lien Heng and Lien Chen-tung worked for a pro-Japanese newspaper. It also tells how Lien Heng eulogized the colonizers in poems.
http://www.taipeitimes.com/News/edit/archives/2004/02/06/2003097679



"Since last year, the pan-blue camp has carried out numerous campaign activities in China, all in violation of Chinese law. However, not only did the Chinese government fail to put a stop to these activities, instead it allowed and even supported their activities," said DPP campaign headquarters spokesman Wu Nai-jen (___).
http://www.taipeitimes.com/News/front/archives/2004/02/10/2003098164



More than 60 percent of Taiwan's people believe China's authorities are hostile to the country's government while over 40 percent consider the hostility targeted at Taiwan's population, the Mainland Affairs Council said yesterday after reviewing 80 polls conducted on cross-strait relations last year.
http://www.etaiwannews.com/Taiwan/2004/02/10/1076377991.htm



"It is an embezzlement case with top KMT officials involved. Whoever can control the project has to be someone with a minister status or higher. We should find out who made the decisions back then," Chang said.
http://www.taipeitimes.com/News/front/archives/2004/02/13/2003098519


Lee said that the people of Taiwan need to shrug off the mentality of being a "long-term laborer" after being ruled by the Chinese Nationalist Party (KMT) for half a century, and take up the responsibility of being the master of their own country.
http://www.taipeitimes.com/News/taiwan/archives/2004/02/09/2003098044




Taiwan's Chen Defends Move on Referendum
(Los Angeles Times - free register)
http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/world/la-fg-chen8feb08,1,5010944.story?coll=la-headlines-world





Liu Yan Chun grew up in Taiwan firmly believing that her family would someday go back to mainland China. It took most of her life to realize that there would be no triumphant return, as envisioned by the Nationalists when they retreated (Edit: this word should be INVADED Formosa which they renamed to Taiwan.) to Taiwan after defeat by the Chinese Communists in 1949. It took her longer still to realize that she had no desire to return.
http://www.msnbc.com/news/315530.asp



007 James Bond - Sean Connery says President Chen is his hero!
http://www.taipeitimes.com/News/edit/archives/2003/11/06/2003074804



First lady's European tour seen as diplomatic success
http://www.etaiwannews.com/Taiwan/2003/07/24/1059010376.htm



Assassination Attempt
Chen's wife, you know, was at a time an even more strident crusader than he was for the rights of the Taiwanese and the DPP. In 1985 she was rammed over three times by a truck and was crippled, and the driver was never found despite the fact that there were witnesses. Most Taiwanese believe _ that it was a botched KMT assassination attempt. And Chen has to go home every night and see her sitting in a wheelchair because of it. It's not an easy thing to shake.
http://www.time.com/time/asia/marketqa/2000/03/20 /



Accident or assassination attempt?

One account claims the driver, described in press reports at the time as a "simple peasant with a steady job and a fixed residence, Chang Jung-tsai" was driving an "illegally assembled truck" down the narrow street where Mrs. Chen was standing.

Witnesses said Chang purposefully hit Mrs. Chen. They insisted that the driver reportedly exclaimed "Oh, she's not dead yet" before backing up and running over her again to ensure maximum injury if not death.
http://www.chinaonline.com/refer/biographies/secure/chenshuibian.asp



From poverty to power: Chen Shui-bian's rise to the presidency
http://www.chinaonline.com/refer/biographies/secure/chenshuibian.asp



(Ex President) Lee says pro-unification forces to blame for SARS outbreak
http://www.etaiwannews.com/Taiwan/2003/05/19/1053309473.htm



Ex-KMT mayor gets 7-year sentence
(He should be forced to pay back the money he stole OR buy every person in Taiwan a kayak!)
http://www.etaiwannews.com/Taiwan/2004/01/21/1074621047.htm



Young voters supportive of Chen, poll says
http://www.etaiwannews.com/Taiwan/2004/01/21/1074620716.htm



Chen gains 55% approval rating, survey shows
(The come back kid!)
(Someone send me an Abian doll!)
http://www.etaiwannews.com/Taiwan/2004/01/21/1074620504.htm


Taiwan's Chen Defends Move on Referendum
Calling Taiwan a free and sovereign country, President Chen Shui-bian defended his decision to call a referendum on relations with mainland China and rejected international concerns that the move was a provocation that endangered the uneasy peace in the Taiwan Strait.
http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/world/la-fg-chen8feb08,1,5010944.story?coll=la-headlines-world

http://www.etaiwannews.com/Taiwan/2004/02/09/1076292171.htm





DPP decries Soong's proposal
(Soong and Lien are mainland pigs.)
http://www.taipeitimes.com/News/taiwan/archives/2003/06/15/2003055308



The TSU regards Chinese Nationalist Party (KMT) Chairman Lien Chan (??) and People First Party Chairman James Soong (???), both born in China, as "aliens."

(Wow, I didn't know they were born in China. This brings up very very very serious legal issues! Lien and Soong should NOT be issued Taiwan Passports because they were born in China. They should be issued Communist China Passports! If they are not eligible for Taiwan Passports then they are NOT Taiwan Citizens. If they are NOT Taiwan Citizens how can they hold political office in Taiwan? How, who issued them Taiwan passports and Taiwan IDs? I read many stories were a foreigner has a baby in Taiwan but the previous Gou Ming Dong government kicked them out of Taiwan. Even Taiwanese who married a foreigner, the foreigner could NOT stay in Taiwan as a citizen. So how can the Taiwan law be so strict on citizenship but allow Lien and Soong to maintain Taiwan Citizenship?)
http://www.taipeitimes.com/News/taiwan/archives/2004/01/29/2003096618



Ma's democratic credentials queried.
Ma, Guo Ming Dong's (KMT) Pig Puppet Mayor
http://www.taipeitimes.com/News/taiwan/archives/2004/01/29/2003096609



DPP says KMT should apologize for buying votes
(Apologize? Put the scum in jail!)
http://www.taipeitimes.com/News/taiwan/archives/2003/11/23/2003076933




KMT (Pig) rebel blasts party's voting order
http://www.taipeitimes.com/News/taiwan/archives/2003/06/02/2003053622



Recent poll shows satisfication with government, Chen
http://www.etaiwannews.com/Taiwan/2003/05/17/1053136494.htm



Former hospital chief under fire (SARS spreader)
Wu was the superintendent of Taipei Municipal Jen Ai when President Chen Shui-bian was Taipei mayor, but he was fired over allegations of corruption in an equipment purchase scandal.

When Ma Ying-jeou (KMT Pig) was elected mayor, he invited Wu back and made him the superintendent of Hoping.
http://www.taipeitimes.com/News/taiwan/archives/2003/05/13/205762



The ‘New Taiwan Person’
Centuries ago, the island had an aboriginal culture of Malay and Polynesian descent. In the 17th century, the Dutch and Portuguese had colonies here, and the imported Chinese laborers — all men — intermarried with locals, forming the basis of the majority of today’s population. According this version of history, it was only in 1887 that China declared Taiwan a part of its territory in an effort to stem Japanese expansionism, say independence activists. But when that failed, China ceded Taiwan to Japan in perpetuity.
The Japanese held Taiwan for 50 years, until their defeat in World War II. In the years immediately after, Allied Forces backed Chiang Kai-shek’s temporary occupation of Taiwan. But according to pro-independence legal experts, the Nationalists never had a legal basis to stay.
“In 1949, Taiwan did not “split off from China”, but was occupied by the losing side in the Chinese Civil War,” according to a 1999 white paper endorsed by 18 overseas Taiwanese associations.
http://www.msnbc.com/news/316717.asp?cp1=1



Premier's performance satisfies public, poll says
http://www.taipeitimes.com/News/taiwan/archives/2003/08/01/2003061799



Chirac sold out to PRC for commerce, says Lu Taiwan VP
Vice President Annette Lu (???) declared that French President Jacques Chirac had "sold out the national character and spirit of France" by opposing Taiwan's planned peace referendum Monday during a visit to Paris by People's Republic of China State Chairman Hu Jintao (???).
http://www.etaiwannews.com/Taiwan/2004/01/29/1075343350.htm



Billions Embezzled In China (Like Communist Chinese like KMT. What’s the difference between a Communist Chinese and a Guo Ming Dong Chinese? Answer:Nothing)
Audits aimed at ferreting out corruption in China uncovered $8 billion in misused or embezzled funds and widespread irregularities that produced "serious losses" of state assets, the government said Friday.

Auditors investigated 130,000 state businesses and offices last year as part of the communist leadership's campaign against the pervasive graft that has soured public faith in the government.
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2004/01/30/world/main596944.shtml



Protest staged over KMT assets
Forging ahead with a campaign to exert pressure on the Kuomintang to return swathes of its financial and property holdings to the state, local activists yesterday staged a protest in front of the former ruling party's headquarters demanding it hand over allegedly 'ill-gotten' assets.

Members of the Alliance to Campaign for Rectifying the Name of Taiwan brandishing leaflets entitled 'Returning KMT Party Assets' yesterday morning converged on the Chinese Nationalist Party headquarters, downtown Taipei and called on KMT Chairman Lien Chan (??) along with other party staff to vacate the building.
http://www.etaiwannews.com/Taiwan/2004/01/29/1075343998.htm



Taiwan's democracy has need of America
http://www.taipeitimes.com/News/edit/archives/2004/01/29/2003096653





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w4rma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-19-04 02:29 AM
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6. Thanks for the information! (n/t)
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Dover Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-19-04 03:58 AM
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7. Maybe they DID spell out the consequences with an assassination
Edited on Fri Mar-19-04 04:01 AM by Dover
attempt on Taiwans pres. and vp candidates. Or maybe it's the opposite and the assassination attempt was meant to LOOK like hostility from China, but in truth is an attemt to assure a sympathy vote to maintain the current leadership.

At any rate, it will be interesting to see the effects of the "assassination" attempt on the election there.
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truthisfreedom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-19-04 04:33 AM
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8. i wonder what stance China will take tomorrow, since the assassination
attempts.
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