Assasination attempt in tiwain

[still_one]

Just heard on Bloomberg about an assasination attempt on Chen!

[whistle]

1. Any links yet?....

[still_one]

2. No

just heard it on bloomberg TV, they said he was shot in the stomach and the VP in the leg in southern Tiwain

[still_one]

3. story just changed, it was a firecracker

chen is O.K. very strange...

[dArKeR]

4. Thanks. Now who's going to come over and clean up my vommit?

[still_one]

5. I am very sorry

I was just watching Bloomberg, and they changed the story. At least it has a good outcome

[dArKeR]

6. I'm never going to sleep tonight! I was on edge way before this came up!

[still_one]

8. Again I am really sorry

BBC is reporting that he is in the hospital on their headline banner. There is no additional news as of yet, they indicate more soon...

[AP]

7. So, does Bush like the KMT in this fight?

What is the U.S. position?

Analysts say the Bush administration came into office focused on improving relations with U.S. democratic allies in the region, including Taiwan. The U.S. Defense Department in particular has worked to create a closer relationship with Taiwan's military, says Elizabeth C. Economy, C.V. Starr senior fellow and director of Asia Studies at the Council on Foreign Relations. Experts say the U.S.-Taiwan relationship has traditionally been characterized as "strategic ambiguity": Washington recognized Taiwan until 1979, when it shifted diplomatic recognition from Taipei to Beijing. Since then it has supported China's "one China" policy: there is only one China, whose government is in Beijing, and Taiwan belongs to China. After a meeting with Chinese premier Wen Jiabao in December 2003, President George Bush rebuked Chen, saying, "We oppose any unilateral decision by either China or Taiwan to change the status quo. And the comments and actions made by the leader of Taiwan indicate that he may be willing to make decisions unilaterally to change the status quo, which we oppose."

http://www.nytimes.com/cfr/international/slot2_031804.html?pagewanted=2

[still_one]

9. bush would not know what to do if Taiwan declared independence

and China decided to invade. Needless to say this would be a potentially very dangerous situation...

[CShine]

12. (Link)

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/3548893.stm

[Almost_there]

33. What could anyone do?

Actually, this is a scenario that's been tossed around Washington since the day Taiwan declared pseudo independance. China views them as a breakaway replublic that is still China with protesters, and in order to avoid WWIII, no President has been willing to tell China to shove it. If China decided to invade, what are our options? I think that's why the battle group is stationed in the Fermosa strait. Just to give the Chinese government pause in doing something rash.

Its a lot more complex than I think you are implying it is. What if Maine decided to just break off from the US, and Canada decides to help them defend their socialist government? China would see the US getting involved as we would see Canada getting involved with Maine breaking away.

It's a very tough situation, but, thankfully, both the President and Vice President of Taiwan appear to be recovering, and perhaps this will help bring even more unity to the island, working on the road to independence.

~Almost

[Muddleoftheroad]

34. It is not like Maine

Taiwan is NOT part of China, it is an independent nation that China is bent on conquering.

Quick question, who here thinks China had a hand in this attack?

I sure as hell do.

[frank frankly]

10. WWIII is very possible with BushCo

fuck.

they could end the world in 8 months.

[dArKeR]

11. He and the Vice President have been shot

My friend in Taiwan just told me.

They were shot in Tainan, Taiwan a city in the south, the town he was born in. I can't stop crying this is terrible!

[Minstrel Boy]

13. BBC: Chen shot in stomach, but "neither injury is thought serious."

Initial reports said the president may have been injured by a firecracker but a legislator from Mr Chen's party was quoted as saying he had been shot.

Mr Chen was taken to hospital with a stomach wound while Vice-President Annette Lu was said to have hurt her leg. Neither injury is thought serious.

Taiwan is holding its presidential election on Saturday.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/3548893.stm

[Minstrel Boy]

14. Australian radio: "deep wound...not believed to be life-threatening"

Taiwan's President, Chen Shui-bian, has been shot in the stomach during campaigning on the final day before the presidential election.

Democratic Progressive Party lawmaker Wang Sing-nan says Mr Chen was bleeding from a deep wound to his stomach.

The lawmaker says the bullet hit the ankle of Vice President, Annette Lu, before hitting Mr Chen's stomach.

The president has been rushed to hospital in the southern city of Tainan, where TVBS television says his wounds are not believed to be life-threatening.

http://www.abc.net.au/ra/newstories/RANewsStories_1069821.htm

[CHIMO]

15. Taiwan's President Chen Reportedly Shot

Taiwan's President Chen Reportedly Shot


Friday March 19, 2004 7:01 AM

TAIPEI, Taiwan (AP) - Taiwanese leader Chen Shui-bian was shot in the stomach Friday while campaigning on the last day of the presidential election, a lawmaker traveling with the president said.


``The president suffered a deep wound about three centimeters (1.2 inches) deep in the stomach,'' Wang told TVBS cable news.


``I was traveling in the vehicle behind the president when I suddenly saw his car accelerating,'' Wang said.


http://www.guardian.co.uk/worldlatest/story/0,1280,-3878531,00.html?=ticker

[truthisfreedom]

16. LINK... not critical.

http://news.myway.com/top/article/id/392111%7Ctop%7C03-19-2004::02:09%7Creuters.html

[dArKeR]

17. My friend in Taiwan just sent me this:

yes, they both shot..said the bullet got Lui's lower lower leg first
and then go to a-bain's stomach near the belly button. They both didn't
ware the bullet-proof vest. The hosptil already got the bullet out.

I'm kind of worry maybe the news just want our people not too worry,
but maybe it's actually a bit serious. because you can see the bullet hold
on their car

Abian is President Chen's nickname

[dArKeR]

18. Friend in Tainan near hospital. Update

it sounds like a-bain and lui are udring the operation now. that's why
the hospital's staff still don't come out for the news conference to tell
everyone what's really going on. the hospital is just near my place
and the whole hospital seems be surrounded by the large mass of people. it
looks scary. the popular feeling ran hight now.

[CHIMO]

19. Taiwan President Shot, Not in Critical Condition

http://www.reuters.com/newsArticle.jhtml?type=worldNews&storyID=4603211§ion=news

TAIPEI (Reuters) - Taiwan President Chen Shui-bian was shot while campaigning on Friday, a day before a presidential election, but was not in critical condition, his spokesman told Reuters.

Chen, 54, had sustained a deep 30-cm (12-inch) wound across the stomach, said Wang, who was traveling in Chen's motorcade.


Chen was able to walk into the emergency room unaided while the vice president required assistance, one witness told television.

[dArKeR]

20. Update from friend in Tainan:

they just annous that at 5 in the afternoon, the
hospital's people will hold a news announcement to media.

(Now, it's 04:30pm Tainan time and 00:30am Pacific time Friday March 19, 2004)

[whirlygigspin]

21. I'm in Tainan

I'm heading over to the hospital now.

[dArKeR]

22. Taiwan Pres. & Vice Pres. Shot - CBS

Taiwanese President Chen Shui-bian and Vice President Annette Lu were both shot and wounded Friday while campaigning on the last day before the presidential election.

"They did not suffer life-threatening injuries. They urge the public to cool down," said Chiou I-jen, secretary-general in the Presidential Office, at a news conference held after about an hour of rumors sweeping through Taiwan on what had happened.

Chiou said the president was shot in the stomach, and the vice president was hit in the right knee as their motorcade made its way through the streets of the southern city of Tainan.

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2004/03/19/world/main607262.shtml

On this link it shows a pic of an ad that the KMT Pigs ran comparing Abian to Hitler. Any person who knows anything about Taiwan knows this is totally absurb. The ones that are Nazis are the KMT. They are butchers and have murdered thousands of people. They had the country under martial law for the time they invaded in 1949 to 1989? (I forgot.) I've lived in Taiwan a long time and I've directly delt with these dirty fascist bastards! If given the chance the KMT would butcher the world and their children for profit.

Let's see some Media Whores like CNN's Mike Chinoy start telling the truth? Ha Ha Ha!

[dArKeR]

23. Taiwan link in Taiwanese - 1 pic looks like blood coming from stomach

http://www.ettoday.com/

[dArKeR]

24. Taiwan link in Taiwanese - 2 pics just as bullet passes windshield

http://www.ettoday.com/2004/03/19/91-1603723.htm#

My friend said a bullet went through Liu's leg then hit Abian in the stomach. From this angle and previous true there must have been more than one shooter.

[dArKeR]

25. Taiwan's president shot while campaigning - MSGOP

TAIPEI, Taiwan - Taiwanese President Chen Shui-bian and Vice President Annette Lu were shot Friday while campaigning for this weekend's presidential election, but their injuries were not life-threatening, a senior official said.


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Chiou I-jen, secretary-general in the Presidential Office, said the president was shot in the stomach and the vice president was hit in the right knee while their motorcade was cruising the streets in the southern city of Tainan.

"They did not suffer life-threatening injuries. They urge the public to cool down," Chiou said at a news conference. He added that "the president is conscious" and "can still direct the nation's affairs."

http://msnbc.msn.com/id/4559337/

[dArKeR]

26. President, vice president shot on campaign eve - Taipei Times

AP
Friday, Mar 19, 2004,Page 1

Taiwanese President Chen Shui-bian????? and Vice President Annette Lu (????were shot Friday while campaigning for this weekend's presidential election, but their injuries were not life-threatening, a senior official said.

Chiou I-jen?????, secretary-general in the Presidential Office, said the president was shot in the stomach and the vice president was hit in the right knee while their motorcade was cruising the streets in the southern city of Tainan.

``They did not suffer life-threatening injuries. They urge the public to cool down,'' Chiou said at a news conference. He added that ``the president is conscious'' and ``can still direct the nation's affairs.'' The presidential ballot will go ahead as planned on Saturday, an election official said.

When reporters told opposition candidate Lien Chan ????about the attack, he simply said, ``I hope it's not serious.'' Lien's Nationalist Party decided to suspend its campaign activities, said Justin Chou, a party spokesman. Both candidates planned to stage massive rallies in the capital, Taipei.

http://www.taipeitimes.com/News/front/archives/2004/03/19/2003107015

The dirty KMT bastards tried to assassinate his wife and him years ago! MURDERERS!

[dArKeR]

27. remove

[dArKeR]

28. Update from friend in Tainan:

ok.. good news. the bullet is not went inside abain's body. it went
through his cloth from right to left of the buttom of his belly button
about 10 cm abrasion. at the bullet at least more than 2, but only found one
in abain's stomach.

(I'm not sure what my girlfriend just wrote but I can't stop crying to ask her)

[jus_the_facts]

30. I'm so sorry to hear this....sounds like he's gonna be okay.....

......my thoughts are with ya'll!! :pals:

[dArKeR]

29. Update from friend in Tainan: Abian really is OK!

a bain had a 14 stitch on his stomach, the bullet only hurt abain's
belly adipose tissue, not went inside. he is resting now and still very
clear and awake. He still talk to first lady on the phone and tell her doesn't
not worry.

Lui hurts her right knee and she is also fine.

-------------
I feel terrible. I never should have made the picture of Abian and Robert F. Kennedy and John F. Kennedy and Martin Luther King. In the back of my mind I thought they'd try to kill Abian too but I published it anyway. I'm sorry!
-------------

[dArKeR]

31. Update from friend in Tainan:

abain is really a hero. when the first second he knew he got shock, he
still smill to the public but tell the guard that his stomach is
bleeding. he doesn't want to let the people at emotion.

I'm going out now. Abain and Lui are all safe ane fine. tomorrow is
an important day. I'm going to wake up early to waiting for this
important.

But Abain seems a big dangerous to win this election. I'm really worry

(My friend means that the election is very close and it's 'dangerous to lose' still.)

[dArKeR]

32. Accident or assassination attempt? (The last one)

Accident or assassination attempt?

One account claims the driver, described in press reports at the time as a "simple peasant with a steady job and a fixed residence, Chang Jung-tsai" was driving an "illegally assembled truck" down the narrow street where Mrs. Chen was standing.

Witnesses said Chang purposefully hit Mrs. Chen. They insisted that the driver reportedly exclaimed "Oh, she's not dead yet" before backing up and running over her again to ensure maximum injury if not death.
http://www.chinaonline.com/refer/biographies/secure/chenshuibian.asp


The Robert F. Kennedy of Asia, President Chen Shui Bian (Abian)
http://www.president.gov.tw (Taiwanese)
http://www.president.gov.tw/index_e.html (English)
http://www.scanews.com/collester/article3/article3.html



The book that built the Lien family.
Just when the family assets of Lien Chen-tung and his son Lien Chan became a hot election campaign issue, a dissertation written by academic Lin Yuan-huei.

The 30,000-character paper tells the reader that, during the era of Japanese occupation, both Lien Heng and Lien Chen-tung worked for a pro-Japanese newspaper. It also tells how Lien Heng eulogized the colonizers in poems.
http://www.taipeitimes.com/News/edit/archives/2004/02/06/2003097679



"Since last year, the pan-blue camp has carried out numerous campaign activities in China, all in violation of Chinese law. However, not only did the Chinese government fail to put a stop to these activities, instead it allowed and even supported their activities," said DPP campaign headquarters spokesman Wu Nai-jen (___).
http://www.taipeitimes.com/News/front/archives/2004/02/10/2003098164



More than 60 percent of Taiwan's people believe China's authorities are hostile to the country's government while over 40 percent consider the hostility targeted at Taiwan's population, the Mainland Affairs Council said yesterday after reviewing 80 polls conducted on cross-strait relations last year.
http://www.etaiwannews.com/Taiwan/2004/02/10/1076377991.htm



"It is an embezzlement case with top KMT officials involved. Whoever can control the project has to be someone with a minister status or higher. We should find out who made the decisions back then," Chang said.
http://www.taipeitimes.com/News/front/archives/2004/02/13/2003098519


Lee said that the people of Taiwan need to shrug off the mentality of being a "long-term laborer" after being ruled by the Chinese Nationalist Party (KMT) for half a century, and take up the responsibility of being the master of their own country.
http://www.taipeitimes.com/News/taiwan/archives/2004/02/09/2003098044




Taiwan's Chen Defends Move on Referendum
(Los Angeles Times - free register)
http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/world/la-fg-chen8feb08,1,5010944.story?coll=la-headlines-world





Liu Yan Chun grew up in Taiwan firmly believing that her family would someday go back to mainland China. It took most of her life to realize that there would be no triumphant return, as envisioned by the Nationalists when they retreated (Edit: this word should be INVADED Formosa which they renamed to Taiwan.) to Taiwan after defeat by the Chinese Communists in 1949. It took her longer still to realize that she had no desire to return.
http://www.msnbc.com/news/315530.asp



007 James Bond - Sean Connery says President Chen is his hero!
http://www.taipeitimes.com/News/edit/archives/2003/11/06/2003074804



First lady's European tour seen as diplomatic success
http://www.etaiwannews.com/Taiwan/2003/07/24/1059010376.htm



Assassination Attempt
Chen's wife, you know, was at a time an even more strident crusader than he was for the rights of the Taiwanese and the DPP. In 1985 she was rammed over three times by a truck and was crippled, and the driver was never found despite the fact that there were witnesses. Most Taiwanese believe _ that it was a botched KMT assassination attempt. And Chen has to go home every night and see her sitting in a wheelchair because of it. It's not an easy thing to shake.
http://www.time.com/time/asia/marketqa/2000/03/20 /



From poverty to power: Chen Shui-bian's rise to the presidency
http://www.chinaonline.com/refer/biographies/secure/chenshuibian.asp



(Ex President) Lee says pro-unification forces to blame for SARS outbreak
http://www.etaiwannews.com/Taiwan/2003/05/19/1053309473.htm



Ex-KMT mayor gets 7-year sentence
(He should be forced to pay back the money he stole OR buy every person in Taiwan a kayak!)
http://www.etaiwannews.com/Taiwan/2004/01/21/1074621047.htm



Young voters supportive of Chen, poll says
http://www.etaiwannews.com/Taiwan/2004/01/21/1074620716.htm



Chen gains 55% approval rating, survey shows
(The come back kid!)
(Someone send me an Abian doll!)
http://www.etaiwannews.com/Taiwan/2004/01/21/1074620504.htm


Taiwan's Chen Defends Move on Referendum
Calling Taiwan a free and sovereign country, President Chen Shui-bian defended his decision to call a referendum on relations with mainland China and rejected international concerns that the move was a provocation that endangered the uneasy peace in the Taiwan Strait.
http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/world/la-fg-chen8feb08,1,5010944.story?coll=la-headlines-world

http://www.etaiwannews.com/Taiwan/2004/02/09/1076292171.htm





DPP decries Soong's proposal
(Soong and Lien are mainland pigs.)
http://www.taipeitimes.com/News/taiwan/archives/2003/06/15/2003055308



The TSU regards Chinese Nationalist Party (KMT) Chairman Lien Chan (??) and People First Party Chairman James Soong (???), both born in China, as "aliens."

(Wow, I didn't know they were born in China. This brings up very very very serious legal issues! Lien and Soong should NOT be issued Taiwan Passports because they were born in China. They should be issued Communist China Passports! If they are not eligible for Taiwan Passports then they are NOT Taiwan Citizens. If they are NOT Taiwan Citizens how can they hold political office in Taiwan? How, who issued them Taiwan passports and Taiwan IDs? I read many stories were a foreigner has a baby in Taiwan but the previous Gou Ming Dong government kicked them out of Taiwan. Even Taiwanese who married a foreigner, the foreigner could NOT stay in Taiwan as a citizen. So how can the Taiwan law be so strict on citizenship but allow Lien and Soong to maintain Taiwan Citizenship?)
http://www.taipeitimes.com/News/taiwan/archives/2004/01/29/2003096618



Ma's democratic credentials queried.
Ma, Guo Ming Dong's (KMT) Pig Puppet Mayor
http://www.taipeitimes.com/News/taiwan/archives/2004/01/29/2003096609



DPP says KMT should apologize for buying votes
(Apologize? Put the scum in jail!)
http://www.taipeitimes.com/News/taiwan/archives/2003/11/23/2003076933




KMT (Pig) rebel blasts party's voting order
http://www.taipeitimes.com/News/taiwan/archives/2003/06/02/2003053622



Recent poll shows satisfication with government, Chen
http://www.etaiwannews.com/Taiwan/2003/05/17/1053136494.htm



Former hospital chief under fire (SARS spreader)
Wu was the superintendent of Taipei Municipal Jen Ai when President Chen Shui-bian was Taipei mayor, but he was fired over allegations of corruption in an equipment purchase scandal.

When Ma Ying-jeou (KMT Pig) was elected mayor, he invited Wu back and made him the superintendent of Hoping.
http://www.taipeitimes.com/News/taiwan/archives/2003/05/13/205762



The ‘New Taiwan Person’
Centuries ago, the island had an aboriginal culture of Malay and Polynesian descent. In the 17th century, the Dutch and Portuguese had colonies here, and the imported Chinese laborers — all men — intermarried with locals, forming the basis of the majority of today’s population. According this version of history, it was only in 1887 that China declared Taiwan a part of its territory in an effort to stem Japanese expansionism, say independence activists. But when that failed, China ceded Taiwan to Japan in perpetuity.
The Japanese held Taiwan for 50 years, until their defeat in World War II. In the years immediately after, Allied Forces backed Chiang Kai-shek’s temporary occupation of Taiwan. But according to pro-independence legal experts, the Nationalists never had a legal basis to stay.
“In 1949, Taiwan did not “split off from China”, but was occupied by the losing side in the Chinese Civil War,” according to a 1999 white paper endorsed by 18 overseas Taiwanese associations.
http://www.msnbc.com/news/316717.asp?cp1=1



Premier's performance satisfies public, poll says
http://www.taipeitimes.com/News/taiwan/archives/2003/08/01/2003061799



Chirac sold out to PRC for commerce, says Lu Taiwan VP
Vice President Annette Lu (???) declared that French President Jacques Chirac had "sold out the national character and spirit of France" by opposing Taiwan's planned peace referendum Monday during a visit to Paris by People's Republic of China State Chairman Hu Jintao (???).
http://www.etaiwannews.com/Taiwan/2004/01/29/1075343350.htm



Billions Embezzled In China (Like Communist Chinese like KMT. What’s the difference between a Communist Chinese and a Guo Ming Dong Chinese? Answer:Nothing)
Audits aimed at ferreting out corruption in China uncovered $8 billion in misused or embezzled funds and widespread irregularities that produced "serious losses" of state assets, the government said Friday.

Auditors investigated 130,000 state businesses and offices last year as part of the communist leadership's campaign against the pervasive graft that has soured public faith in the government.
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2004/01/30/world/main596944.shtml



Protest staged over KMT assets
Forging ahead with a campaign to exert pressure on the Kuomintang to return swathes of its financial and property holdings to the state, local activists yesterday staged a protest in front of the former ruling party's headquarters demanding it hand over allegedly 'ill-gotten' assets.

Members of the Alliance to Campaign for Rectifying the Name of Taiwan brandishing leaflets entitled 'Returning KMT Party Assets' yesterday morning converged on the Chinese Nationalist Party headquarters, downtown Taipei and called on KMT Chairman Lien Chan (??) along with other party staff to vacate the building.
http://www.etaiwannews.com/Taiwan/2004/01/29/1075343998.htm



Taiwan's democracy has need of America
http://www.taipeitimes.com/News/edit/archives/2004/01/29/2003096653

[Merlin]

35. You need to clarify that the attempt on Mrs. Chen's life was in the '80s.

Otherwise people reading this, amidst all the chaos of the assassination attempt on Chen today, will be confused.

We are all with you. We are all in support of you and your people.

One thing that you can be certain of now. Chen will win very big tomorrow.

Thank God he's not badly hurt.

This will be the beginning of the end of the KMT, imo.

[Robbien]

40. It would be great if we could have a Taiwanese election thread tomorrow

The same way we had for the one in Spain last week. Do you know of any sites that will have election updates?

[dArKeR]

42. I witnessed 1 Presidential and 1 Legislative election in Taiwan. Democracy

The were the most fantastic events I've ever seen.

Taiwan is very cluttered, a little dirty, very disorganised because of the KMT stealing and lack of leadership for 50 years. But the election system set up after Abian won Taipei City Mayor is excellent and well organized and impossible to cheat. (The way the KMT still cheats now is they bribe the voters before they get into the polling station. Once in the door it's 100% Democracy as the American Founding Fathers envisioned.

Poll stations are all over the place, all walking distance over the entire country.

1. Polling station opens
2. Representative from all Parties present. All public is invited to come in and watch the entire process, even pre-setup.
3. All ballot boxes are shown to the public and local reps. as empty then they are locked and stationary, they cannot move! You can sit inside the entire day. My neighbors and I did a tag-team taking turns watching the boxes for Chen's victory in 2000. (It was really a big win. A million times more than the USA Hockey beating the Russians!.)
4. VOTE
5. 5PM Voting stops but Poll is NOT closed. This is when the station gets packed by citizens. Officials open the boxes and pull out the ballots 1 at a time. Call out the selection and a person makes a check mark on the board, tally. Then the ballot is turned and shown to the public inside the station to verify.
6. If a ballot was not marked he calls it out and shows the public. (citizens use a thick ink pen to check boxes.)
7. The totals from this Station are then called into election headquarters.
8. The entire process is counted and totaled by 6:30 - 7:pm and winner declared.
9. The next day the newspapers publish the totals from all stations across the country. Citizens verify if the total they saw in their station matches with the HQ totals.
10. 80%-90% plus vote.

Think about your nation?

I'm so proud to have met, lived, worked and played with the Taiwanese people in Taiwan.

Go to HELL you dirty KMT bastards!

[Merlin]

43. So, dArker, what effect do you think this will have on the elections?

The media are saying no impact.

Are Taiwanese really so fixed in their positions that this tragedy won't cause some to switch their votes?

[dArKeR]

44. I'm so drained I can't think. I'm still crying just that he is still alive

Some kids grow up having heros; sports players; movie stars... From the time I was born I can still remember sitting on a street curb in Toledo Ohio with my sister when my Mom came running out screaming, 'they've killed President Kennedy.' I must have been near zero at the time. Then Bobby was murdered by Republican style men too. I studied about these events my whole life and they become heros to me.

Then I went to Taiwan and I saw the dirtiest evil I ever seen, the KMT. And kid from nowhere, along with his girlfriend and wife starting fighting. It's a story of morals and courage that a piece of feces like Bush and most Republican scum couldn't muster up no matter the situation. I saw what Abian did. I was there. I saw what he changed as Mayor. The whole country was changed just for him being Mayor. The KMT National Gov. had no choice but to follow.

Then I worked on his campaign in 2000 for President. We all knew we would loose but none of us ever gave up. It was impossible to defeat Satan. They owned, literally, the media, telephone co. gas co, electric co, all the police, judges, prosecutors, military, every government worker was/is corrupt, bribing voters, killing anyone who got in their way... the KMT Party is the richest in the world with all assets to bribe foreign journalist too (like CNN's Mike Chinoy.) Most all people were afraid to even put up a Abian sign because the KMT keeps lists and would in some way get you.

Just before the 2000 election Abain's motorcade came down my street, (The same Jeep style he was shot in.) Back then many people were afraid to come out into the street. Most people hid back behind things on the sidewalks. My friend and I stood in the middle of street. The Jeep Abian was in, the security guy just smiled at me, from about 100 yards away, and told the driver to stop. (I'm sure because they did stop.) I shook hands with Abian and said good luck. Then I gave him my logo'd t-shirt. He took out a pen and started to sign it. I said no no Mr. President, it's for you. He cracked the biggest smile I've ever seen him have. He really was shocked. (Plus I was the first person to ever call him Mr. President. That gave me the idea to make a 'Mr. President' sign, which I did. I carried it all over and put up on my building. My neighbors told me to take it down because they said someone would 'get' me. After Abian won, we all went down to Taipei City and my Canandain friends gave me a first class escort through a million wild people to the front of the stage and I held my sign and everyone loved it. It was published all over the world. It become Whore CNN's cover pic too.

We really did it. We non-violently overthrew one of the world's most evil empires. But they're not dead yet. Many people in Taiwan resent Abian because they have to work now. Before they lived off the fat of the KMT stealings from the Taiwanese people. This is directly and exactly why he lost the second term mayor race. All public workers voted him out because they could no longer leave their work during the day and go see movies, shopping, sleeping...

I think the KMT tried to kill Abian because if they lose this time the KMT is dead forever. They won't be able to steal all the money anymore. I also think they are spending all the money they can in bribing the voters for the same reason.

http://dolphinabian.tripod.com/ Mr. President pic

[Tinoire]

46. Thank you for all the information in here

& Darker, my heart and thoughts are with you and everyone affected by this. I'm so glad Chen is supposedly ok & pink thoughts for the election!

Hang in there!

Peace

[dArKeR]

57. I should be in Taiwan on the ground protecting the President! I've got

eyes like an eagle!

[Tinoire]

64. Yeah - Eyes like an eagle but

only one heart and one brain... Stick around! Stand behind Chen and keep educating us so we can all stand behind you...

You're like this guy and we need you

[dArKeR]

55. I forgot to say: When I gave my t-shirt to Abian and he started to sign

it and he though I wanted it back. LIKE, I wanted something from him? I never in my life thought of taking something from him. I'd do anything to give him and Taiwan, I'd never take anything until Taiwan is free from the dirty evil Mainland Chinese bastards.

[burrowowl]

65. Thanks for the info dArkeR!

You are a good guy!

[dArKeR]

36. Response from some Taiwanese people in Taiwan

a-ban just little hurt...


now go back taipei ...


tonight will be quiet...


because a-ban will win ,taiwan will win....


china go to hell...

JS

[Zynx]

45. Indeed. China go to hell.

We should not be on such friendly terms with such an evil government while supposedly expanding democracy.

[NewYorkerfromMass]

37. kick

I guess this could have turned out a lot worse.

[whirlygigspin]

38. Tainan update

What a day.
Everyone in Tainan is in a state of shock.
People looking somber, I've never seen it this quiet.
Old men on the street in front of the hospital crying, very touching.
I drove by the local KMT election office on my way home tonight and they looked scared.

Hope all goes well tomorrow, walking on eggshells.

Whirlygigspin in Tainan

[Merlin]

39. What impact do you think this will have on tomorrow's election?

News sources keep saying it shouldn't have much effect because of the low level of undecided voters. That sounds like nonsense to me.

First, they don't really know what the undecided percentage is because there has been no legitimate polling for over a week.

Second, it's unfathomable that this wouldn't swing several points over to the Chen side; it's a horrific illustration of the fanaticism on the other side.

If it does swing votes, that may well rescue what would otherwise have been a defeat for Chen. I understand the oddsmakers were betting even money on a win by Lien of 850,000 votes prior to the shooting.

Do you have any feelings about the probability this will effect the result?

[Lydia Leftcoast]

41. Off topic, whirlygigspin, but

are you an American expat in Tainan?

What are you doing there?

[whirlygigspin]

67. yes, expat here

Tainan is home base for asia.

[dArKeR]

47. Good report of assassination - Taipei Times

(Note: both the President and Vice President have been shot, in the report's included pic. They did not want to cause panic in the crowd and CONTINUED to wave and smile to their supporters!. I'm sorry to bring this up now but do you think there is any leader in the Republican Party in America that has enough courage and dedication to our country to do that. They both could be dying; honestly they didn't know at that time that they wouldn't bleed to death or something. Bush is a coward. I know this.)

By Lin Chieh-yu
STAFF REPORTER
Saturday, Mar 20, 2004,Page 1

President Chen Shui-bian (???) and Vice President Annette Lu (???) were shot yesterday afternoon while leading a motorcade in Tainan City, but were assessed to be in good condition with only minor injuries.

The government immediately called a national security meeting at the Presidential Office to activate emergency security measures, including the convening of a special Cabinet task force and the upgrading of military and police readiness.

http://www.taipeitimes.com/News/front/archives/2004/03/20/2003107026

[dArKeR]

48. Police confident arrests will be made soon - Two gunmen

INVESTIGATION:: While no arrests have been made, justice officals said at least two gunmen were involved in the incident and expect to detain the suspects soon
By Jimmy Chuang
STAFF REPORTER
Saturday, Mar 20, 2004,Page 1

Lu Jen-fa, state public prosecutor-general

Police said yesterday they may know who shot President Chen Shui-bian (???) and Vice President Annette Lu (???).

"Due to a gag order, I cannot make public the latest details of the case, but I assure you that we are screening potential suspects and I believe that we shall locate the gunman soon," State Public Prosecutor-General Lu Jen-fa (???) said at a press conference yesterday.

Minister of Justice Chen Ding-nan (???) and Bureau of Investigation Director-General Yeh Sheng-mao (???) said special agents did not receive any tips ahead of the shooting.

http://www.taipeitimes.com/News/front/archives/2004/03/20/2003107027

[dArKeR]

49. The day the shotsrang out in Tainan

http://www.taipeitimes.com/News/taiwan/archives/2004/03/20/2003107028

[dArKeR]

50. Doctors give the gory details on Chen

LACERATION WOUND: Medical personnel at the Chi Mei Medical Center in Tainan yesterday gave a blow-by-blow account of the president's injury and treatment
By Joy Su and Chiu Yu-tzu
STAFF REPORTERS
Saturday, Mar 20, 2004,Page 3

Doctors at the Chi Mei Medical Center in Tainan said yesterday afternoon that both President Chen Shui-bian (???) and Vice President Annette Lu (???) were in stable condition after yesterday's shooting, with Chen sustaining a laceration wound to his lower abdomen and Lu a wound to her right kneecap.

"President Chen's wound was 11cm long and 2cm wide. The wound ran horizontally across his lower abdominal region and was 2 cm deep," said Chi Mei Medical Center superintendent Steve Chan (???).

http://www.taipeitimes.com/News/taiwan/archives/2004/03/20/2003107035

[dArKeR]

51. Tainan residents gather at hospital to support president

By Chiu Yu-Tzu
STAFF REPORTER , IN TAINAN
Saturday, Mar 20, 2004,Page 3

Hundreds of Tainan residents yesterday gathered in front of Tainan County's Chi Mei Medical Center to show their strong support for President Chen Shui-bian (???) and Vice President Annette Lu (???) after hearing they had been shot.

After both Chen and Lu arrived at the hospital, pan-green supporters grew in number, waving flags and banners. Watched by hundreds of police officers, they stood outside the hospital' s emergency room, shouting "Elect A-bian!" The supporters condemned the shooting, with some crying out and demanding justice for Chen and Lu.

During the five hours Chen and Lu were in the hospital, local political figures visited them to express their commiserations.

"It' s not the time to evaluate the electoral situation but to consider the issue of national security," Tainan County Commissioner Su Huan-chih (???) said after visiting the hospital.

"How could a terrible thing like this happen? This incident comes just as the people are at the end of their patience," Tainan County Councillor Lin I-chin (???) told the Taipei Times outside the hospital. Lin said she and many supporters cried when hearing the news of the shooting.

http://www.taipeitimes.com/News/taiwan/archives/2004/03/20/2003107036

[dArKeR]

52. Taiwan no stranger to political violence

Yesterday's shooting was not the first time pro-unification supporters have apparently attacked political figures or commentators who opposed their views.

Last November, New York-based political commentator Cao Chang-ching (???) was assaulted by members of the pro-unification Patriot Association (?????).

Unhappy with Cao's pro-independence remarks during an international conference, four members of the association beat and insulted Cao in the lobby of the Grand Hotel where the conference was being held.

In March last year, Chin Heng-wei (???), a political commentator and editor-in-chief of Contemporary Monthly magazine, was attacked while walking home with his wife. The assailant was believed to have been angry with Chin's liberal stance on cross-strait affairs and Taiwanese independence.

http://www.taipeitimes.com/News/taiwan/archives/2004/03/20/2003107038

Mainland Chinese arrogant bastards! Look at the facts for history. It's not what the Media Whores are telling you! CNN, MSGOP... all lying WHORES!

[Zynx]

53. I'm so glad that you are providing us with all this information.

It really helps to understand the situation in Taiwan.

[psychopomp]

54. Second that!

I live in that part of the world but the news here does not offer such a raw, in-depth perspective. The ripples from this attack have yet to be felt beyond Taiwan but they will be felt, I'm sure.

[Merlin]

56. Is that quote from Soul Mountain?

It sounds like something Gao would write.

[psychopomp]

59. Xu Wei/Hsü Wei (1521-93)

"From Zhejiang I Went to Xin'an and Climbed Even-with-the-Clouds Mountain. On the Way Back There Were Many Beautiful Sights at the Inns Where I Stayed and Yet I Could Not Write One Word of Poetry. When I Got Back to the Main Road I Wrote These Four Lines to Make Fun of Myself."

[Merlin]

61. Thanks very, very much. One more question, please.

Is there a translation? What is the title?

I absolutely loved Soul Mountain. This sounds very similar.

[dArKeR]

58. I feel helpless!

[psychopomp]

60. Just take care of yourself for now

But you should do what you think is right.

I wonder when Dumbya is going to condemn this act of terror?

[Merlin]

62. dArker, take it easy. Have faith. A-bian will win it.

The Kennedys were my boyhood heroes, too. Knowing a lot about A-bian's life (a close friend has interviewed him twice for the WSJ), I think he's a pretty tremenduous public figure, and seems to be doing exactly the right thing for Taiwan.

A few days ago, the oddsmakers had A-bian down by only a couple of points. I find it hard to believe that won't be offset by these events.

Even if he does not win this time, he's a young man and he will be back again next time.

Have faith. He has captured the flow of history.

[dArKeR]

63. President casts vote in Taiwan - News24

Taipei - A smiling President Chen Shui-bian cast his votes in the island's election battle and landmark referendum on Saturday showing few signs of discomfort after being shot during late campaigning the previous day.

Chen told reporters it was a divine mission to cast his vote in the island's first ever referendum on the island's relations with rival China before he died and vowed that the attack would not crush Taiwan's democracy.

"I almost couldn't see everyone here today, heaven bless Taiwan," said Chen, who walked into the polling centre at a Taipei primary school surrounded by dozens of security guards, some of them armed.

"It was unclear where the bullet came from at this point but no matter where it came from A-bian (his nickname) will not be crushed," said Chen.

"Even if I was, it cannot crush the will of the 23 million people in pursuing democracy. It will not demolish the solidarity of Taiwanese people.

http://www.news24.com/News24/World/News/0,6119,2-10-1462_1501154,00.html

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Please look at this story and then look at the bastard WHORE story from MSWHORENBC.
MSWHORENBC publishes a picture and leads with the dirty bastard KMT PIG who was problaby the one behind Abian and Lui assassination. Why would MSWHORENBC publish a picture of KMT Pig Lien? Can anyone find any type of defense for this? American media is dirty and this is the true reason America will fall just like the Roman Empire.

To MSNBC,

Taiwan voting begins after president shot
http://msnbc.msn.com/id/4559337/

Why did MSNBC publishe a picture and leads with the dirty KMT Lien who was problaby the one behind Chen and Lui assassination. It's bias. You are bias. The story and pic should lead with the President, Chen. MSNBC you show your dirty corrupt soul. TYou are dirty and this is the true reason America will fall just like the Roman Empire.

MyName

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In election 2000, Reuter's Taiwan Bureau Chief Jeffrey Parker published a story just before the election and he didn't even mention Chen as being a candidate. Only the above Mainland Pig Lien and Soong. Everyone in Taiwan wanted Chen, 80% but they were a little afraid to vote for him. Chen won. At seeing the story, I immediately emailed Reuters and I got lucky. A Chief Editor got my email and he sent my complaint to Corporate. To this day, I"ve never seen another story published by Jeffery Parker. Googleing, the last dates I can see him published are just before I got him fired!!!!!! (I hope).
My life would be complete if I could get fired, Fineman, Russert, Chinoy and MSNBC News Services.

[dArKeR]

66. Taiwan's leaders urge calm - TGM

By GEOFFREY YORK
From Saturday's Globe and Mail

Taiwan was swirling with conspiracy theories this morning after a mysterious assassination attempt by unknown gunmen sent shock waves through a crucial election campaign that could decide the fate of the island's independence movement.


Taiwan's two main independence leaders, President Chen Shui-bian and Vice-President Annette Lu, survived bullet wounds in the assassination attempt on the eve of today's election. At least two shots were fired from two handguns in the bold daylight attack on their motorcade as they paraded through the southern city of Tainan, police said, yet the gunmen escaped and nobody was arrested.


Western governments are watching the election closely because it could trigger a military conflict with mainland China if the pro-independence forces win the election and proceed with plans to approve a new constitution by 2008. Beijing has made it clear it will use military force if Taiwan takes constitutional steps to move toward independence. This, in turn, would almost certainly drag the United States into the conflict on Taiwan's side.

http://theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/RTGAM.20040320.wxyork0320/BNStory/Front/

Mr Geoffrey Whore York you neglected to tell your readers that Formosa was never a part of China. Mainland KMT Pigs invaded Formosa in 1949 and said it was a part of China. Then they murdered thousands of people and tortured more people than Saddam ever did. Good luck in Hell Geoffrey.

Contact Mr. Whore: http://www.globeandmail.com/services/site/help.html#webstaff

[Tinoire]

68. I hate to tell you this dArKeR

but...hmmm... even if Chen wins... not looking good with the US. PLEASE keep educating people before the fact so that if/when the time comes, most can follow you and the rest of us can intelligently back you up when the Bush apologists show up claiming "fraudulent elections".

[dArKeR]

69. The truth in an example: Mexico 1949 in a revolution.

The army of Pancho Nazi is being defeated and will surely be destroyed (mostly because they are so corrupt that Pancho Nazi's generals are selling it's own arms to its enemy Pancho Communist. So Pancho Nazi swipes up all the nations treasures, gold, art... and flees to Texas. Murders most of the people in Texas and renames it to Bushland, Republic of Mexico. Then one day Mexico become a bully bastard and says that Bushland belongs to Mexico but the people living there say, 'hey wait, we are Texans. You invaded us. We don't want to be a part of you dirty murdering corrupt Nazi/Communst bastards.' But this story isn't told by the American Whore Media. What is reported to the world, who most really don't know what happend, the Whores say, Bushland is a renegade province of Mexico and we will kill everyone in Bushland if they don't submit.

1. The land never belonged to Mexico
2. 80% of the citizens and not Mexican. The small minority with the guns who invaded Texas are Mexican.

The obvious solution is for President Chen to extradite all the criminals back to China and give back all the gold and art which was stolen from China by the KMT. This would be a fair settlement. Then China could try and execute Lien, Soong, and all the other KMT murderous bastards.

[dArKeR]

70. Pic of bullet hole in President's clothing

http://www.ettoday.com/2004/03/20/138-1604105.htm

[dArKeR]

71. President speaking after the assassination attempt by the Mainland Pigs

http://www.ettoday.com/2004/03/20/138-1604097.htm#

[dArKeR]

72. Polls closed, President Chen is behind.

Sad day.