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tlcandie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-19-04 11:42 AM
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Iraq War `Is About The Future,' Franks Says/tbo.com May 19, 2004
http://news.tbo.com/news/MGATKK9PZRD.html

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He said they should consider that the war on terror ``is not about us. This is about the future.''

``We have to decide how much price is too great a price, and my personal view is that no price that this current generation might have to pay is too great a price to give my grandkids, etc., the opportunities, options that I had when I was a kid growing up,'' Franks said.
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``I watched an honest government, our government, work hard to try to figure out how to not have a war in Iraq,'' Franks said.
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Malva Zebrina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-19-04 11:50 AM
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1. They are going to get that meme firmly ensconced inside the heads of
the sheep. They will do it I am afraid--if fifty percent of the people have given there assent to this war. Over and over these Machiavellian warmongers say it. They are all in lockstep as far as justifying this immoral killing and murder. Bush says civilians will get in the way. People will buy it.
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Spentastic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-19-04 11:53 AM
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2. Get fucked
"how to not have a war in Iraq"

I know! Lets not send thousands of troops with guns over there.

Fucking hell. I hate these people
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saigon68 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-19-04 10:23 PM
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11.  Heydrich = Franks Franks= Heydrich
Edited on Fri Mar-19-04 10:30 PM by saigon68
War Criminals


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Jacobin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-19-04 12:04 PM
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3. I'm suprised a bolt of lightning didn't descend from the clouds
and just blast this feeble, lying piece of shit into a million pieces.
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number6 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-19-04 10:40 PM
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14. me too, old Tommy"we don't do body counts" Franks
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Pale_Rider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-19-04 12:07 PM
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4. Coming from a war criminal ...
... tis is to be expected.
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ninkasi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-19-04 12:15 PM
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5. No price is too great
if you're not the one paying it. This government expects other people's loved ones to die, or be maimed in order to enrich themselves even more. I wonder how many hawks we would have if they were the ones dying?
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boobooday Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-19-04 12:27 PM
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6. About the future!
You got that right. It's about whether we continue as a democracy, or continue our decline into a fascist, warmongering dictatorship.

http://www.wgoeshome.com

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Whoa_Nelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-19-04 12:33 PM
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7. Tens of thousands
of innocent Iraqis and hundreds of American and coalition troops have no future...they're dead, all thanks to BushCo, spineless US Senators and Congresspeople, the PNAC, and PoodleBoy. :mad:
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devinsgram Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-19-04 12:44 PM
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8. What kind of moron would make a statement like that.
He says his grandchildren would have the opportunities he had. I guess than is ok for someone else's child die for his grandchildren. How does he look at himself in the mirror everyday?

And I would like to know what honest government he's talking about. It certainly wasn't ours. Evidently he's on drugs.
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rman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-19-04 12:48 PM
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9. ah yes, "our children will sing great songs years from now"
provided we "just wage total war"
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teryang Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-19-04 10:10 PM
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10. Thank god for unelected officials with
...their hands in the till, telling us what sacrifices we have to make.


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ConcernedCanuk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-19-04 10:25 PM
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12. "work hard to try to figure out how to not have a war in Iraq" - BULLSHIT
.
.
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They created a Group just for that purpose - to "sell" the war to the American people, and their allies.

I am surprised to see no mention of WHIG, the group created as sort of a "sales team" to sell the Iraq war. The White House Iraq Group seems to have slipped under the radar of most media - I have no idea how I stumbled across it.

Educating the Public


Systematic coordination began in August, when Chief of Staff Andrew H. Card Jr. formed the White House Iraq Group, or WHIG, to set strategy for each stage of the confrontation with Baghdad. A senior official who participated in its work called it "an internal working group, like many formed for priority issues, to make sure each part of the White House was fulfilling its responsibilities."

In an interview with the New York Times published Sept. 6, Card did not mention the WHIG but hinted at its mission. "From a marketing point of view, you don't introduce new products in August," he said.

The group met weekly in the Situation Room. Among the regular participants were Karl Rove, the president's senior political adviser; communications strategists Karen Hughes, Mary Matalin and James R. Wilkinson; legislative liaison Nicholas E. Calio; and policy advisers led by Rice and her deputy, Stephen J. Hadley, along with I. Lewis Libby, Cheney's chief of staff.

The first days of September would bring some of the most important decisions of the prewar period: what to demand of the United Nations in the president's Sept. 12 address to the General Assembly, when to take the issue to Congress, and how to frame the conflict with Iraq in the midterm election campaign that began in earnest after Labor Day.

A "strategic communications" task force under the WHIG began to plan speeches and white papers. There were many themes in the coming weeks, but Iraq's nuclear menace was among the most prominent.
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OH, and the inferences of that particular name for the "group" creating the acronym "whig" didn't escape me

BUT, I don't think that they checked the dictionary for the definition before they did so. I did, and one of the definitions is dead-on accurate in describing the Republican Party as it exists today, especially the last 5 words.

WHIG: A 19th-century American political party formed to oppose the Democratic Party and favoring high tariffs and a loose interpretation of the Constitution.

NO surprise here!
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Rex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-19-04 10:35 PM
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13. Franks needs to go and jump off a cliff.
Do the world a favor!
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FlemingsGhost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-19-04 10:50 PM
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15. Does Tommy Franks' grandkids live in Iraq?
Edited on Fri Mar-19-04 10:52 PM by DemsUnite
Gen. Franks unwittingly just admitted that war is **ALL** about us.

It's unravelling, folks...

(on edit: typo)
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