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Scurrilous (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-30-10 05:08 AM Original message |
Vietnam celebrates 35th anniversary of war's end |
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clixtox (941 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-30-10 05:40 AM Response to Original message |
1. "Communists" are impossible to find these days in Vietnam! |
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MellowDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-01-10 10:29 AM Response to Reply #1 |
23. It was about Communism... |
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clixtox (941 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-02-10 06:20 AM Response to Reply #23 |
46. Your opinion mirrors the carefully cultivated "conventional wisdom"... |
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MellowDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-02-10 08:40 AM Response to Reply #46 |
58. The fear was all too real... |
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WinkyDink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-02-10 08:39 AM Response to Reply #23 |
57. Naive. |
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MellowDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-02-10 08:41 AM Response to Reply #57 |
59. Paranoid. |
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WinkyDink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-03-10 07:11 AM Response to Reply #59 |
80. "Paranoid" about what? That "it was about Communism"? Follow the thread, please. |
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MellowDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-03-10 07:40 PM Response to Reply #80 |
85. Paranoid that it was about something else.... |
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era veteran (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-30-10 06:15 AM Response to Original message |
2. 30 April 1975 Not a celebration for American Soldiers |
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Bigmack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-30-10 08:58 AM Response to Reply #2 |
6. Funny.... I was glad it was finally over..... |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-02-10 06:45 AM Response to Reply #6 |
47. era veteran is correct. If there had been no draft during the Vietnam Era, |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-30-10 02:36 PM Response to Reply #2 |
12. That was a terrible day for a lot of reasons. |
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The Wizard (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-30-10 06:38 AM Response to Original message |
3. The United States got its just desserts |
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era veteran (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-30-10 07:22 AM Response to Reply #3 |
4. 58,000 dead Americans for nothing |
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Warren Stupidity (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-30-10 07:39 AM Response to Reply #4 |
5. So we can have another 58,000 dead for nothing? |
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era veteran (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-30-10 09:15 AM Response to Reply #5 |
7. Would we go to war so recklessly if every bodies son had participated? |
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Warren Stupidity (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-30-10 12:05 PM Response to Reply #7 |
8. The generation that started the vietnam war served in WWII. |
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The Wizard (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-30-10 12:31 PM Response to Reply #8 |
9. But they were told we had to fight them |
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era veteran (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-30-10 02:36 PM Response to Reply #8 |
13. Of course my argument is based on no exemptions, which you evade |
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Warren Stupidity (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-30-10 03:56 PM Response to Reply #13 |
15. I didn't evade it. |
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era veteran (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-30-10 04:02 PM Response to Reply #15 |
16. Never been tried |
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Warren Stupidity (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-30-10 04:09 PM Response to Reply #16 |
17. Sure it has been tried - WWII for example. |
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Thothmes (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-02-10 05:08 AM Response to Reply #17 |
45. Who was Reagan connected with |
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Warren Stupidity (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-02-10 11:23 AM Response to Reply #45 |
66. no shit. |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-02-10 06:50 AM Response to Reply #17 |
48. Reagan's military career? Anything specific, or are you referring to all 30 days of it? |
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Thothmes (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-02-10 06:52 PM Response to Reply #48 |
75. Longer than 30 days |
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Stella_Artois (838 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-01-10 02:35 PM Response to Reply #16 |
30. You are wrong |
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era veteran (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-01-10 06:32 PM Response to Reply #30 |
35. You all heard about laws? The military does not care a shit about a rich |
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Warren Stupidity (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-01-10 10:18 PM Response to Reply #35 |
40. Since you asked: Pollyanna dream. |
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era veteran (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-02-10 04:58 AM Response to Reply #40 |
44. Foolishness your pessimistic ass |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-02-10 07:06 AM Response to Reply #44 |
50. I see your point about Vietnam, but when has "write laws and enforce them" ever worked? |
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era veteran (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-02-10 04:38 PM Response to Reply #50 |
74. We are not a completely lawless land. We have lots of crooks and unethical |
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Warren Stupidity (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-02-10 09:51 AM Response to Reply #44 |
62. I'm pessimistic and you are naive. |
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era veteran (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-02-10 04:29 PM Response to Reply #62 |
73. You probably meant reflects instead of refutes |
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awoke_in_2003 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-01-10 07:19 PM Response to Reply #8 |
37. "the well connected never had to serve" |
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Grins (508 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-30-10 01:43 PM Response to Original message |
10. But...but...but it was Kennedy....! |
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David__77 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-30-10 02:20 PM Response to Original message |
11. Congratulations to the people of Vietnam. |
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proteus_lives (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-30-10 02:44 PM Response to Reply #11 |
14. Dictatorship and one-party rule feels so good. |
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David__77 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-30-10 09:15 PM Response to Reply #14 |
19. The people of Vietnam made their historical choice. |
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proteus_lives (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-30-10 11:25 PM Response to Reply #19 |
21. Yeah, all the people's choice..... |
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Warren Stupidity (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-01-10 09:11 AM Response to Reply #21 |
22. Bullshit. There was no blood bath after the war ended. |
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proteus_lives (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-01-10 11:13 AM Response to Reply #22 |
24. Of course Comrade Stupidity. |
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Warren Stupidity (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-01-10 02:08 PM Response to Reply #24 |
29. There were no mass executions. No blood bath. |
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proteus_lives (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-01-10 05:22 PM Response to Reply #29 |
33. Show me where I said.... |
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Warren Stupidity (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-01-10 10:10 PM Response to Reply #33 |
38. " Hanoi lined-up a lot of people against the wall 1975-after" |
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proteus_lives (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-01-10 10:26 PM Response to Reply #38 |
42. Who is retreating? |
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Warren Stupidity (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-02-10 11:06 AM Response to Reply #42 |
65. So you agree that there were no mass executions. |
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tabasco (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-01-10 10:15 PM Response to Reply #33 |
39. "lined-up a lot of people against the wall" |
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proteus_lives (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-01-10 10:22 PM Response to Reply #39 |
41. And I hate assumptions. |
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David__77 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-01-10 11:14 AM Response to Reply #21 |
25. Well... |
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Commie Pinko Dirtbag (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-01-10 11:41 AM Response to Reply #25 |
27. I remember being flabbergated that the US actually LOST a war. |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-02-10 07:13 AM Response to Reply #27 |
51. Yet, you post on a board for members of the U.S. Democratic Party. |
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Book Lover (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-02-10 10:30 AM Response to Reply #51 |
63. Indeed, how dare CPD enter into our hallowed halls and discuss |
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proteus_lives (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-01-10 05:27 PM Response to Reply #25 |
34. Moral relativism is a wonderful thing. |
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David__77 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-01-10 07:01 PM Response to Reply #34 |
36. I meant to imply no such thing. |
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proteus_lives (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-01-10 10:28 PM Response to Reply #36 |
43. It's ok to congratulate the Hanoi government. |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-02-10 07:41 AM Response to Reply #43 |
52. One can congratulate the Vietnamese people that they are not being napalmed. |
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proteus_lives (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-02-10 03:14 PM Response to Reply #52 |
67. Or marching into a village and shooting all the males if they refused to fight. |
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clixtox (941 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-03-10 06:49 AM Response to Reply #67 |
79. Your representatives, the USA 's armed forces marched into villages... |
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proteus_lives (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-03-10 11:38 AM Response to Reply #79 |
84. Let's start with this. |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-02-10 08:12 AM Response to Reply #34 |
54. Accusing someone of moral relativism is very easy, but what is your point for the real world? |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-02-10 07:00 AM Response to Reply #21 |
49. "I don't pretend to think that the U.S. offered anything better." Bingo. |
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proteus_lives (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-02-10 03:17 PM Response to Reply #49 |
70. And the NVA and VC did too. |
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WinkyDink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-02-10 08:42 AM Response to Reply #21 |
60. Do you have a link to your claim about "against the wall"? And do you not know who was the INVADER? |
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proteus_lives (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-02-10 03:16 PM Response to Reply #60 |
68. Google Black April and the Hanoi Government's action after the fall. |
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Warren Stupidity (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-02-10 03:46 PM Response to Reply #68 |
72. Oh wait - so you are back to your claim of a blood bath and mass executions? |
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proteus_lives (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-03-10 01:47 AM Response to Reply #72 |
76. Jesus, your name is apt. |
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era veteran (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-03-10 05:01 AM Response to Reply #76 |
78. Perhaps the poster, Mr. Stupidity, should read Decent Interval by Frank Snepp |
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Commie Pinko Dirtbag (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-01-10 11:36 AM Response to Reply #14 |
26. Hey, didn't I see you in Rodney Dangerfield's movie "Back to School"? |
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proteus_lives (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-01-10 05:21 PM Response to Reply #26 |
32. I wish I was as funny as Sam Kinison. |
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Xithras (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-03-10 11:02 AM Response to Reply #14 |
81. Vietnam is not a dictatorship. Never was. |
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kgnu_fan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-03-10 11:13 AM Response to Reply #81 |
82. Vietnam is a beautiful country with incredible artistic culture |
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Lagomorph (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-30-10 04:18 PM Response to Original message |
18. I was just glad it was over. |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-02-10 08:22 AM Response to Reply #18 |
55. I think you may be thinking of the far left of the 1930s, not rank and file Democrats of tthe |
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New Dawn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-30-10 10:47 PM Response to Original message |
20. K&R |
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tuckessee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-01-10 11:57 AM Response to Original message |
28. Isn't this the war where the Americans claim to have "won" every "battle"? n/t |
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Lagomorph (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-01-10 05:20 PM Response to Reply #28 |
31. In context.... |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-02-10 08:37 AM Response to Reply #28 |
56. "The Americans?" Aren't you American? Either way, do you have a point,? |
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madokie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-02-10 08:01 AM Response to Original message |
53. All I want to do is apologize to the Vietnamese people for the atrocities |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-02-10 08:43 AM Response to Reply #53 |
61. Time to forgive yourself, friend. Long past time, in fact. Remember the lesson, but let go of any |
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madokie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-02-10 10:48 AM Response to Reply #61 |
64. Some never feel it while some never forget |
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Xithras (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-03-10 11:29 AM Response to Reply #53 |
83. The Vietnamese have no particular animosity toward Americans nowadays. |
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kgnu_fan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-02-10 03:17 PM Response to Original message |
69. Self-determination of People of Vietnam - One more revolution |
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kgnu_fan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-02-10 03:45 PM Response to Reply #69 |
71. People Have the Power |
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4bucksagallon (324 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-03-10 04:49 AM Response to Original message |
77. But... but... but it was only a conflict not a war. |
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