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Media_Lies_Daily Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-22-04 07:49 AM
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1974: Bush Flew for Airline Tied to Iran Contra Drug Trafficking...
<http://www.madcowprod.com/>

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"During the summer of 1974 George W Bush flew for a CIA-connected airline in Alaska which was suspected by the Iran Contra Commission of being involved in CIA drug trafficking in support of the Contras, the MadCowMorningNews has learned.

The company, Alaska International, has also been publicly accused of illegally selling C-130 military aircraft to Col. Moammar Qaddafi's Libya which were used in Libya’s invasion of Chad, despite the U.S. government ban on sales of the aircraft to Libya.

Bush’s Alaska adventure is another ‘missing’ chapter of Bush’s biography, and has almost completely escaped media attention. We learned of it first in a letter from a reader of the first two segments of our report on 'The Secret History of George W. Bush.'

'About the connections you're tracing in Alabama – you might want to look at a few years later when Bush was in Alaska working for Mark Air, which also had a reputation for undercover operations,' the reader wrote."



My remarks: Daniel Hopsicker has done a ton of research on the alleged 911 hijackers, the Florida flight school owners, as well as Junior's secret history. His work is always well-researched and well-written. Take a look at some of the other articles he's written and I think you'll agree:

<http://www.madcowprod.com/archive.html>


More on Daniel Hopsicker's background:

<http://www.cia-drugs.com/symposium/speakers/hopsicker/>

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chimpymustgo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-22-04 07:53 AM
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1. WOW. Wonder how much of this Kerry knows or suspects.
He has done so much investigating on Iran contra, etc. Does he have the bomb, and will he drop it?
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DarkPhenyx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-22-04 07:57 AM
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2. If it's true this will make Bush more of a hero.
With the neo-Cons anyway. This is a Ray-gun special and nothing on Ronnie's watch can be questioned.

Next we'll find out he actually sat on the McCarthy board and he'll get cannonized the next day.
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Media_Lies_Daily Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-22-04 08:08 AM
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5. I don't think so...read this link...
Edited on Mon Mar-22-04 08:09 AM by Media_Lies_Daily
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DarkPhenyx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-22-04 08:34 AM
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11. Why don't you think so?
Reagan good, Bush Mk1 good, Clinton evil, Bush Mk2 good. The lack of logic isn't hard to follow.
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displacedtexan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-22-04 08:06 AM
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3. Don't forget Bush*'s stint with Caterair.
Another junk bond shitload-o-debt company with a W stock sell off song and dance in the early 90's.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn/A48301-2002Aug6?language=printer
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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-22-04 08:07 AM
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4. The Bush family has always had the rep of making their money off the
misery of others.
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Enraged_Ape Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-22-04 08:14 AM
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6. I really think the only time this goober has actually flown...
Edited on Mon Mar-22-04 08:17 AM by Enraged_Ape
was in a cheap Alabama hotel with a $20 hooker and a speedball coursing through his veins. I've never even seen any convincing evidence that he spent his time in the Texas Air Guard in anywhere but the back seat of a trainer.

You'll never convince me this numbskull has ever had the brains necessary to operate an electric can opener, let alone an airplane.
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papau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-22-04 08:26 AM
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8. The fact that his flight time was at a base with the rare 2 seat version
is interesting.

I agree that there is no proof in the record that he ever flew solo - including no proof that he ever flew the version of the F102 that was single seat.

Very curious fact.

But no question he was taught to fly - the flight in the late 70's with friends where - sans license - he took up a small plane and almost crashed it because of lack of ability or lack of "familiarity" with type of plane - makes plausible the idea of small plane flying in Alaska.
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bushisanidiot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-22-04 11:59 AM
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23. He Brags That He's a C Student, His Academic Records are Hidden
or destroyed.. I agree. I don't see how Pres. Shitferbrains ever flew an aircraft "solo". I just don't believe it.
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smirkymonkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-22-04 12:04 PM
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24. LOL! I thought I was the only one
who found it implausible that Chimpy could fly a plane. Honestly, I just can't see it. You would have an easier time convincing me that Ashcroft was a Hell's Angel.

Like everything else, monkey boy gets a ride on the coattails of others.
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Art_from_Ark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-22-04 08:21 AM
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7. 1974?
Iran-Contra was a decade later. What's the deal?:shrug:
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chimpymustgo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-22-04 08:27 AM
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9. Good catch, Art. Calling our historians!
nt
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Beaker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-22-04 09:38 AM
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15. they said that he flew for the airline that was involved with Iran-contra-
NOT that he was involved with Iran-contra.
he flew drugs for them in the 70's, and in the 80's they were involved with iran-contra, but george the lesser had moved on to insider trading with Harken...
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aprilgirl Donating Member (53 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-22-04 08:27 AM
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10. You mean bush would risk is his life for drug trafficking and not for US?
I guess you could say that Iran/Contra was for the US eventhough it broke US laws and international laws. Well, folks, I guess we get the government we deserve. If we can't demonstrate in the streets and shut the government down with active civil disobidience than we have only ourselves to blame.
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izzie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-22-04 08:52 AM
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12. The government we deserve seems to hit it pretty good.
n/t
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0007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-22-04 09:28 AM
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13. This is pretty far out and with a lot of flaws
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Cooley Hurd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-22-04 09:32 AM
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14. This doesn't sound quite right...
I don't think they would send Poppy's "problem child" on any mission they actually wanted to complete.
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yelladawg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-22-04 09:39 AM
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16. More and more
I hope this is true and that it gets out.
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NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-22-04 09:57 AM
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17. You are right. This story is crap. Lets keep our eye on the ball here
Edited on Mon Mar-22-04 10:01 AM by NNN0LHI
I doubt Bush ever flew a plane by himself. I have watched this site in the past and believe little or none of what they have ever printed. Kind of like Drudge.

Don

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starroute Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-22-04 11:53 AM
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22. Perhaps they didn't -- but so what?
All I read the piece as saying is that Bush spent a brief period in the summer of 1974 working for an airline that had CIA connections. It looks to me like part of a pattern of Poppy shopping his "problem child" around to anyone who might get him to shape up or provide experience in the family business.

The issue isn't whether Bush actually *did* anything significant on his own. It's more about what he was being groomed for within the contect of the BFEE.
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DS1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-22-04 10:05 AM
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18. Any plane Shrub was in was trafficking drugs
They were all up his nose
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JohnyCanuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-22-04 10:13 AM
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19. Good one DS1, LOL nt
nt
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Bandit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-22-04 11:26 AM
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20. Isn't that the same year Hillary Clinton was working in Alaska?
I seem to recall that Hillary worked in Alaska in early seventies in a fish cannary. Interested to know if Bush* passed a flight physical in 1974 when he was supposedly doing cocaine. I guess if he was flying for the CIA he wouldn't need to take a physical but any other commercial airline like Mark Air would require it. Should be something we could track down.
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leetrisck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-22-04 11:50 AM
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21. Is there any record of bushy having a license
to fly anything? Maybe a kite?
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happyslug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-22-04 01:56 PM
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25. Let a FIGHTER pilot fly a FOUR ENGINE PLANE?
Are you NUTS!!!! First an apologies to any and all present and ex-fighter pilots, BUT Fighter pilots are well known NOT to have the navigation skills of the Bomber and Military Airlift commands (With the exception of Naval and Marine pilots who often have to fly a flyspeck carrier in the middle of the Ocean) nor the training needed to operate a FOUR ENGINE TURBO PROP Plane.

Furthermore the F-102 INTERCEPTOR Bush was flying was a plane which was ALWAYS under the command and control of Ground radar units (He always would be told where he was and where any target might be). DO NOT confuse the tactics used with the F-102 with "regular" fighters like the F-4 of the same time period, or their replacement the F-15 (Which replaced not only the F-102 and F-106 but the F-4). The F-15 is a true Fighter as opposed to the F-102 which was a missile launching interceptor. The F-102 was NOT design to engage other planes in air to air combat, except to intercept Soviet Bombers as they came over the North Pole. The F-102 was design to operate in an environment where the plane (and thus the Pilot) was ALWAYS on a Friendly Radar Screen.

Thus Bush's skills even if he flew solo were no were near the skills needed to fly the F-15 (which came out in 1972) or even the F-16 (A late 1970s plane). The pilots of these more modern Fighters were assumed to have to operate outside Friendly ground radar, something a F-102 or F-106 pilot did not have to worry about. Thus Bush did not need any real navigation skills to operate his F-102.

Now if we get over the problem of navigation, the operation characteristics of the C-130 is as different from a F-102 as driving a Corvette is from operating a Tractor-Trailer. Both a Corvette and a Tractor Trailer may have Standard Transmissions, but you operate each completely different from the other (Try racing with a fully loaded tractor trailer some time, see how soon you flip that tractor-trailer over and not only kill yourself, but a lot of other people also). Another factor is the additional brakes and gears in a Tractor-trailer, including creeper gears, Jake Brakes, multiple rear axle gearing etc which are NOT on a Corvette. These additional mechanical devices are needed to operate a large heavy tractor, you do not need them on a Corvette and the Corvette does not have them.

The same with a C-130, it has FOUR ENGINES, it has a HUGE CARGO HOLD, it has a winch inside it Cargo hold, It has a light weight movable floor (Which can be used to drop cargo's out of its large rear cargo doors). With multiple Engines you have multiple gas tanks. It has radar and navigating system to operate INDEPENDENT of ground base radar (Provided you have the training to use such equipment). All told no one would leave a barely eligible Fighter Pilot fly a C-130. It would be like leaving a race car driver drive a Tractor-Trailer, possible, but he would have as much a chance of crashing the plane (or tractor-Trailer) as finishing the flight(or truck trip).

Simple put, without additional training, they is NO WAY Bush could have flown a C-130. No one would have left him. Furthermore given the requirements of a C-130, the best he could hope for would have been as a Co-pilot (and what pilot with half a mind would have wanted HIS plane be in the hands of someone who did not have the training to fly it? especially after Bush lost his right to fly Fighter Planes for failure to take a physical? i.e. "BEEP, BEEP BEEP, Bush is a problem, do not leave him touch your plane").

This story has to many impossibilities to it to be true.
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