White House Denies Involvement in Hamas Death

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http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&ncid=578&e=2&u=/nm/20040322/pl_nm/mideast_usa_yassin_dc

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The United States strongly denied any involvement in the assassination on Monday of Hamas leader Sheikh Ahmed Yassin and appealed for calm in the region following his death.



Speaking on morning television interviews, White House national security adviser Condoleezza Rice (news - web sites) said the United States did not have advance warning of the assassination.

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[gWbush is Mabus]

1. i guess that means they knew and were involved in the assassination

[Joanne98]

10. lol

I shouldn't laugh but this is what happens when you lie about everything. She's probably telling the truth, but it doesn't matter anymore, nobody will believe her.

[Guaranteed]

31. HA that's exactly what I said. nt

[tom_paine]

47. You beat me to the punch. I would only believe they had nothing to do

with it if they said they did.

[rooboy]

2. If Condi says they didn't know..... yada yada yada... n/t

[0007]

23. Condoleezza Rice has more facial expressions than a dog

[Chicago Democrat]

46. She has canine features and acts like

a bitch!

Sorry, that just was fun!
hehehehhehehehheee!

[UpInArms]

3. and up is down

and war is peace

yeah, right, Sleazy, we believe you (NOT!)

[tom_paine]

48. When Sleezy says "1 + 1 = 3" I go back and start erasing textbooks

NO ONE is more right than our Emperor Bunnypants* and his cadre of Lying Stooges.

[Broadslidin]

4. When The Oil Is Gone......

When the oil is gone
and the corporate controlled U.S. government
is no longer interested in the Middle East,
The Palestinian People will reclaim their land.

[megatherium]

5. We didn't have anything to do with it, but

we're not offering a condemnation for this assassination either. Just an appeal for calm. Sure. That will help.

[gristy]

6. Can't ever know for sure, but this assassination looks like it

is responsible for pushing the Richard Clarke story right off the front page of the Times: http://www.nytimes.com/pages/pageone/scan/index.html
Nowhere to be seen.

[chimpymustgo]

8. Coincidence?

Chimpy sure does benefit from an astonishing number of those.

[Broadslidin]

9. The N.Y.T. never intended to report the Clarke interview.

For reliable and accurate print and video coverage,
there is B.B.C. World News.

[gristy]

15. I disagree.

The N.Y.T. never intended to report the Clarke interview.

I do not see a pattern of news manipulation at the Times at the level that would indicate that they planned on not reporting the Clarke interview on the front page (I believe it is reported inside the paper). There have been many damning articles on its front page.

The O'Neill revelations are the first that come to my mind and are similar.

[JoFerret]

36. They will report the reaction no doubt. and

perhaps more responsibly - provide extensive book reviews.(Hope for Michiku)

[Joanne98]

12. OMG I had the exact same thought last night

But I thought it was too far out to speak of. I must be channeling your thoughts.:)

[keithyboy]

18. My thinking exactly!

It is probably just a "coincidence" BUT how convenient. You can be that there will be more coverage of this on FOX than on the Clark revelations.

[Babel_17]

28. It sure is an amazing coincidence

I wonder if the administration is telling the truth about not knowing but perhaps Israel calculated that the timing of their action couldn't help but be appreciated.

I don't think any gov't needs to be painfully over-aware/hypersensitive to the timing of what they see as needed actions but I can't imagine that the Israeli gov't didn't know how the timing of the attack would affect the news cycle.

Life is full of mysteries and we may never know the truth. It might not even be a black or white issue.

[aprilgirl]

7. Does anyone belive that killing this "spiritual" leader helps US or Israel

The Israeli talking heads in the US are spinning, spinning enough to make you head wheel off. The message of the day is that this man was not a "spiritual leader" eventhough thousands of Islamics say he was. It's a well-used Israeli tactic adopted by the Bush administration to define its enemies as they wish to suit their purposes no matter what millions of people feel. The only thing that this killing does is to draw some attention from the Clark allegations against this Bush administration. But this dastardly act today of killing the Hamas spiritual leader can only make matters worse all over the world and it proves that Israel DOES NOT have the best interest of either themselves or the US in mind. What do you say about a leader who performs acts that have the direct affect of getting more and more of your people killed and hated? No one ever talks about what drove the Palestinians to perform their last act of terror in Israel...it was a direct retaliation for Israeli incursions into GAza which killed 14 innocent people including one chiled shot in the back. All we ever hear is that Israel is attacking Palestinians in retaliation for a bombing as though the bombing occurred for no reason.

[Joanne98]

13. Ariel Sharon does not have good intentions

for the peace process or even his own people. The dictator Sharon and the Likud regime only care about keeping themselves in power. The more the Israeli's are attacked the more they rally around the flag. Sharon is delibertly keeping the infada going. When the people of Israeli do what the Spainards did, it will stop. (for a while anyway)
I bet the dictator Bush takes note of this. Which makes the odds of the US getting attacked sometime between June and October pretty high. Especially if his poll numbers drop below 40%. Where's the betting window?

[Zhade]

38. When did that fascist Sharon EVER have good intentions?

NT!

[Auntie Bush]

16. Welcome Aprilgirl

Nice post and welcome. :hi:

[tlcandie]

11. Speaking of this subject... did anyone ever see the article about

* counseling the two leaders from EI? I will not post anything but a link to it because it is very disturbing, BUT if this is true then it needs attention.

I looked in the Israeli/Palestinian forum and did not find it listed there.


Titled, "Bush Offers Solution to Leadership Problem".

http://electronicintifada.net/v2/article2384.shtml


EDIT: BTW, where did this denial pop up from? Had there been some language that stated they were behind it? Makes me believe even more that they ARE just as much a part of it as Israel denying something that noone has called them on. :shrug:

[Ravy]

33. OMG! That is shocking! I hadn't seen that. Thanks.

Must read.

[Malikshah]

37. Catch the source

BNN--
Bassalah News Network
Bassalah = onion...

i.e. The Onion.

http://electronicintifada.net/v2/bassaleh.shtml

In other words-- Satire.

[DoYouEverWonder]

14. Why even bring this up

unless you were guilty.

It's like confessing to a crime before you are even suspected or charged?

[Auntie Bush]

17. Funny... how every time * *** 's ass is in the fire

something else happens to divert the news. I heard someone say they had him in their sites and could have killed him some time ago. Funny how he was killed minutes after Clarke's story came out. They knew when 60 Min was on and I honestly believe they tried to bump it off the air but were a couple minutes late. But, got the job done anyway and it worked. All the news the rest of the night and so far today was about the assassination. What low-life this administration is.

I'm ashamed of our country!
I'm ashamed to be an American!
I'm ashamed of our president!

I'm also afraid of what will happen next! Now we have the the Hammas after us and for good reason! What the hell is the matter with this administration?

[yardwork]

24. I'm not ashamed to be American.

I had no choice in where I was born. I'll stand up for what I believe in and do my best to encourage my country to do the right thing.

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[legin]

20. "Today, as progressives, we celebrate"

Speak for yourself.

[Name removed]

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[Herschel]

27. Begging your pardon

Support for Israel's right to self defense is widespread among Democrats.

[Zhade]

40. As is support for your boy LIEberman?

I scoff at your insinuation. You do not speak for the democratic majority. Ever.

[Herschel]

41. I believe I am correct

in saying most Democrats approve of these acts of self defense by Israel.

[Zhade]

43. Believe what you want. It doesn't make such beliefs true.

NT!

[Chicago Democrat]

45. Not the Democrats that I know. 100% against Sharon.

and 100% for Labor. Get rid of Sharon, bring back Barak bring back Clinton, kidnap both Barak and Arafat and lock them in a room with Bill and a case of Hummus. Then tickle them both until they sign the agreement that we all know is fair.

Then invade Israel and Palestine with the UN with John Kerry leading the troops bringing food and money! They will be honored with flowers and blessings!

God Bless America!
God Bless Israel!
May Allah Richly Bless Palestine!

[Herschel]

51. I suspect

we will see prominent Democrats speaking well of this.

[Voltaire99]

32. Your bloodthirstiness is appalling.

No progressives stand with you in celebrating political murder. In fact, not only progressives have deserted you; the whole of the civilized world denounces this savagery. The UK has just spoken. See:

http://politics.guardian.co.uk/foreignaffairs/story/0,11538,1175312,00.html

Above all, Herschel, do not generalize from the obeisance of US politicians. In murder, you stand alone.

[Zhade]

39. Speak for yourself. You don't speak for me, or other true progressives.

NT!

[Herschel]

42. I believe

fighting terror is progressive.

[Zhade]

44. No, you seem to believe fighting terrorism with terrorism is progressive.

NT!

[Herschel]

52. This strike was not terror

It was justice on a killer. Be glad.

[Just Me]

53. Murder is NOT justice.

Murder is murder whether via military strike or suicide bombing. It is still murder and is an exercise in lawlessness which is wrong/bad/evil.

[Herschel]

54. There is no murder

when those in the crosshairs are killers.

[Zhade]

55. BE GLAD!

Leaving aside your condescending attitude for the moment, you are wrong.

Justice would be to bring him to justice in a court of law, not targeted assassination that kills bystanders.

You're wrong. One day, you may wake up to that fact. "Be glad".

[0007]

21. You can have my watch and chain -

[Commie Pinko Dirtbag]

22. Hey, I never suspected them...

...until I read this.

If the Bush Administration tells you 2+2=4, check with a calculator. Twice.

[yardwork]

25. It looks bad that the White House didn't know, anyway.

Here's one of our closest allies in the most disturbed part of the world planning an assassination, and they didn't even bother to tell the White House?

How bad does that look?

[tlcandie]

29. They told them and approved it.... don't believe that lie...

One and the same US(government)/Israel(government). They both lie in the same bed.

EDIT: Please do NOT include me as a US citizen who celebrates this act of terrorism.

[yardwork]

30. I feel the chances are 50/50

Either

1. The Israelis told the White House and the White House approved it, plus provided helpful advice on the timing.

Or

2. The Israelies, recognizing that the Bush White House are idiots, didn't even bother to tell them.

Oh yes. There is a vanishingly small chance that C. Rice is telling the truth. Vanishing small. Not statistically significant.

[heidler]

35. I believe the chances are 100% that Bush and Co. are too stupid to know

that their policies toward Israel at the very least did indirectly cause the killing.

[saigon68]

49. C. Rice= not brightest bulb on tree

They knew all about this before hand. The sheik was the big guy--- now someone else will take his place and the beat will go on.

[SOS]

50. They knew

and now have to deny it.
They must deny knowledge because this killing puts US soldiers at greater risk in Iraq.

[abracadabra]

56. Yep, they KNEW !!

nothing happens there without them knowing...
Booshco WANTS trouble there--then they have a good reason to stay in the region and pump that SWEET crude!!
pnac--to the letter--

[Voltaire99]

34. Even if the WH didn't know...

...it is silly for it to plead ignorance now. Israel's intentions toward the sheik have hardly been a mystery.

Nor is it a mystery what the attack costs us. This act of terror exposes our nation to the danger of retaliatory terrorism because we are seen around the world as its underwriters--its accessory.

By flouting US public opinion--which favors an equitable approach to the Middle East--our politicians have put us in this unfair and unwanted role.

Morally and pragmatically, it's an unacceptable burden. Israel's violent destiny need not be ours.