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JoFerret Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-22-04 09:47 PM
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Guantanemo chaplain found guilty of adultery
Edited on Mon Mar-22-04 09:48 PM by JoFerret
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tom_paine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-22-04 09:51 PM
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1. "Adultery" in the service is a "selective prosecution" weapon
Easy to nail a lot of people if they wanted to always prosecute.

But they don't.

People who they slap with adultery are people they want to slap hard but can't any other way.

It was that way when I was in the service. It's that way now.
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DarkPhenyx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-22-04 10:20 PM
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6. The way the statute is written in the UCMJ...
Edited on Mon Mar-22-04 10:20 PM by DarkPhenyx
...you can be busted for adultry if you are a single individual having sex with another single individual. Adultry under UCMJ is "sex with anyone not your legally wedded spouse".

Unless they've re-written it since I looked last.
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LagaLover Donating Member (500 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-23-04 10:19 AM
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13. Well close
"sex with anyone not your legally wedded spouse" doesn't cover sex between two single people (using the definition you provided). Obviously ONE of the people involved must be married, and I think that is what you meant. So even if a single male airman has sex with the wife of a civilian, that airman can be charged with adultery under the UCMJ.

It is an antiquated offense, seldom used, and when used, used very selectively.

I understand why it's on the books -- we would not want Capt Smith always deploying Sergeant Jones so he can boink Sgt Jones' wife while the Sarge is gone -- but it is used far too often to "get" people that can't "get" on anything else.


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DarkPhenyx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-23-04 05:30 PM
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17. Actually I meant to single people.
This was straight from my JAG rep when I was personnel officer on a general staff. Said it would never get used that way, but that as written it would pass muster if it was used that way.
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tom_paine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-23-04 12:19 PM
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15. Don't know, DP, may service days are rapidly fading in the rearview
I am just talking about how the "selective enforcement" of the UCMJ Adultery Reg was applied in my day (and probably still is, given the evidence).
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LagaLover Donating Member (500 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-23-04 12:30 PM
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16. It still is applied VERY selectively
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Kimber Scott Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-24-04 10:56 AM
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19. You are too right. I was a victim of that selective prosecution
and so were many others. The military "court" is a joke. Truth is not a factor.
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Eric J in MN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-22-04 09:54 PM
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2. phony justice
They accused him of being a traitor, but since they couldn't come up with proof, they just used unrelated evidence he committed adultery they found while searching for evidence he's a traitor to reprimand him.

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DBoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-22-04 10:17 PM
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5. Like Bill Clinton?
No evidence of wrong-doing in Whitewater, so they went after consensual sex with an of-age intern instead?
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Supormom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-22-04 10:02 PM
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3. From espionage to adultery
If they were trying to save face I guess they did a pretty dismal job of it!
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9215 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-22-04 10:08 PM
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4. HANG THE SON-OF-A-BITCH!!
Edited on Mon Mar-22-04 10:08 PM by 9215
TOMMORROW!!!
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JoFerret Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-22-04 10:22 PM
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7. Hanging Bush is a little extreme
.
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mike1963 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-22-04 11:56 PM
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8. True. Crucifixion would be more humane in his case...
:eyes:
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9215 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-23-04 08:59 AM
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11. I likes that more, heeeee, heeee!!
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aprilgirl Donating Member (53 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-23-04 12:07 AM
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9. RW still can't stand anybody committing adultry but them.
Penis envy all over again. The RW WMD
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Art_from_Ark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-23-04 01:42 AM
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10. Was Ike ever court-martialed for his affair with Kay Summersby?
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Hand Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-23-04 09:53 AM
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12. No, but...
I believe FDR tore him a new one when he said he wanted to divorce Mamie and marry Summersby. All in all, a sordid story. Mamie Eisenhower was a sad alcoholic for much of the rest of her life.

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LagaLover Donating Member (500 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-23-04 10:21 AM
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14. They didn't court martial USCINCEUR, Gen Ralston
a few years back, either. As a matter of fact, he moved UP from VCJCS to CINCEUR AFTER he admitted he committed adultery.
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JoFerret Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-24-04 10:44 AM
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18. Or Bush 1 forced to testify to his affair
with Jennifer Fitzgerald?
This was just a mean-spirited and ideological prosecution. Yee was in leg-irons in the brig!
It was all about humiliation and power once they got the idea they had made a colossal mistake.
It destroys their credibility should they ever have the grounds for a real prosecution.
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