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salazarmms Donating Member (62 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-25-10 06:03 AM
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Dry Tortugas fishing crew reports haul of tar-coated shrimp, tar balls in net
Edited on Tue May-25-10 06:21 AM by salazarmms
Source: Naples Daily News

About 12 miles north of Dry Tortugas, the crew on the Mattie Fay hauled up their shrimp catch and got oil.

Tar balls were tangled in their nets with the shrimp. There was tar on the shrimp, tar on their boots, tar on their gloves.

“We just come on in after that,” said Brian Williams, 30, a member of the Mattie Fay crew. “We didn’t drag no more. Once we saw that, we pretty much wrote it off.”

There’s no way to know if the oil the Mattie Fay ran into came from the Deepwater Horizon blowout a few hundred miles away, but the boat’s captain isn’t taking a chance.

Read more: http://www.naplesnews.com/news/2010/may/24/dry-tortugas-fishing-crew-reports-haul-tar-coated-/?gulfdrilling=1



Yeah... not worth the 'chance'.

Edit: Link working now.
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zonkers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-25-10 06:04 AM
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1. link not working. nt
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habitual Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-25-10 06:12 AM
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2. working link:
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Botany Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-25-10 06:27 AM
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3. Dry Tortugas


:cry:
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truth2power Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-25-10 08:21 AM
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Thank you for posting that map, Botany..I was about to go looking for one...
I hope I'm not the only one who doesn't know where Dry Tortugas is. :)

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Botany Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-25-10 08:27 AM
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15. no problem ...... I knew it had to do something to do w/ pirates


The Loop Current
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Hubert Flottz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-25-10 09:23 AM
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28. It's the place where George W Bush and Dick Cheney need to be
Edited on Tue May-25-10 09:24 AM by Hubert Flottz
chained up.
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Botany Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-25-10 09:44 AM
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31. too nice for them


devil's island would be better

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arcadian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-25-10 09:58 AM
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37. They'd love it
Or Bush Sr would. the fishing is excellent. HW Bush created the national Park
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Dr.Phool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-25-10 10:21 AM
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38. George W. ain't going anyplace that's dry.
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Wilber_Stool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-25-10 12:28 PM
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45. No, you're not......................n/t
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lfairban Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-25-10 07:57 PM
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53. About 60 mi. west of Key West.
You can only get there by boat. There is a regular passenger boat, you can spend the day and come back in the evening. The fort has a long interesting history.

If you don't know how far it is from Cleveland to Cincinnati, but you know how far from Naples to Orlando, You might be from Ohio.
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slackmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-25-10 09:25 AM
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29. That was my first question, and the answer doesn't surprise me
And so it begins.

Thanks Botany.

:argh:
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liberal N proud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-25-10 06:52 AM
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4. It might not be from the oil gusher
:sarcasm:


The black tide, killing the worlds oceans.
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HooptieWagon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-25-10 07:08 AM
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6. That much oil picked up N of the Tortugas is likely to be from the spill.
Oil (tar balls) reported days earlier in Stuart and Key West isn't likely to be from the spill.
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liberal N proud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-25-10 07:59 AM
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10. That is why I included the sarcasm smiley
I don't buy all this public denial or doubt that any of these instances are from the spill.
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HooptieWagon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-25-10 09:15 AM
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26. Occasional tar balls washing up in the Keys and S Fla aren't uncommon.
I've seen them, and there was a column in the St Pete Times just this past Sunday, written by a guy who lived and taught in Key West for several years, about laughing at tourists dealing with tar-feet. However, pulling up tar balls and oiled shrimp in shrimp nets IS unusual, and indicates a high probability of being from the spill.
Just trying to keep the rational and accurate separate from the hysterical and hyperbole.
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liberal N proud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-25-10 09:43 AM
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30. In all the years that I have visited Clearwater and St. Petersburg beaches
I have never had any tar.

Los Angeles beaches are another thing! Never seen it on any Florida beaches.
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ellenfl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-25-10 11:34 AM
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44. there has been tar from tankers on atlantic beaches since
i moved to southeast florida in 1953. however, we never got tar like the boys on the shrimp boat experienced.

ellen fl
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HooptieWagon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-25-10 07:14 PM
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52. Clearwater/St Pete is West Coast, not South Florida...
There's not the shipping traffic here that there is in the Florida Straights. However, tar balls still wash up on the beaches after storms, leftover from the oil spill 15 years ago. Also, the spoil islands in Tampa Bay occasionally get tar balls washed up on them. Less common here than Keys and South Florida, but not unheard of.
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liberal N proud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-25-10 08:54 PM
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55. Missread your thread
Thought it was including St. Pete.

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truth2power Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-25-10 08:31 AM
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17. Yeah, sure enough. The same thing that had me shaking my head already this morning..
It might not be from the oil gusher??? What's that about?

I suppose we wouldn't want to blame BP, that stellar corporate PERSON, until we know for sure. :eyes:

Jeebus!! Damn them all!!

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Wednesdays Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-25-10 09:45 AM
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33. BP: "It's not from the oil spill!"
"Oh, wait, yes it is. And it's Obama's fault."
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happygoluckytoyou Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-25-10 08:49 AM
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20. IN A RELATED STORY...BP releases study: mysterious tarball forming from outerspace, fall into oceans
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happygoluckytoyou Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-25-10 08:50 AM
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23. FOX NEWS SCIENCE EDITOR "tarball appearance started 6000 years ago at earth formation"
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kdmorris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-25-10 09:13 AM
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25. Yeah, that's really starting to irritate me
"There’s no way to know if the oil the Mattie Fay ran into came from the Deepwater Horizon blowout a few hundred miles away"... the media is as complicit in this disaster by minimizing the damage and "sheltering" the public. I saw some dumbass graphic on CNN the other day that showed that the oil spill had SHRUNK in size. There's was just one problem with the graphic... to the west of the supposed "much smaller" oil spill they had highlighted huge swathes of Louisiana coastline with the words "thick oil on shore". But they made it seem like it wasn't really part of the oil spill, which had "shrunk".

I turned the TV off at the point.
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happygoluckytoyou Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-25-10 09:45 AM
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32. well you know... per FUX news, it is still cold in the winter, so there is no global warming...
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florida08 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-25-10 09:54 AM
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35. LoL
right..all 3 times
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HooptieWagon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-25-10 07:04 AM
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5. The Dry Tortugas are about 90 miles west of Key West.
It appears an underwater plume, or sunken surface oil, may be caught in the Tortugas Eddy, which circulates counter-clockwise N of the Tortugas. This is still well off the Florida coast, although an ominous development for commercial fishing (that's prime shrimping and grouper grounds). The oil may circle around and still get picked up again by the Loop Current, but other oil that wasn't picked up in the Tortugas Eddy may be fairly close to Key West by now.
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-25-10 07:18 AM
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7. ... Oil Shrimp, Crude Shrimp, Sludge Shrimp, Tar Shrimp, Petroleum Shrimp, Kerosene Shrimp... n/t
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Rockholm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-25-10 08:49 AM
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21. Are those new menu items at the Red Lobster?
I am so sure Bubba Gump never had THOSE on his repartee. So sick. Could Dispersant Shrimp Scampi, Deep Fried Tar Ball Shrimp, Petro Shrimp Balls. The list is endless.....as is this disaster.
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kdmorris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-25-10 09:16 AM
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27. Yeah, I wonder what Captain Dan would have said about all this n/t
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louis-t Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-25-10 10:58 AM
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40. Ohhh, it was Lieutenant Dan!
I sentence you to 2 more viewings of Forrest Gump.
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kdmorris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-25-10 11:23 AM
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42. DOH!!!!! n/t
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Viva_La_Revolution Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-25-10 12:58 PM
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47. I lol'ed...
then I :puke: :(
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thecrow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-27-10 10:48 AM
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61. Methane Hydrate Encrusted Shrimp....
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florida08 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-25-10 07:31 AM
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8. well hell
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Skink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-25-10 07:58 AM
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9. It's from the other oil spill.
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izquierdista Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-25-10 08:04 AM
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11. This is a cost savings
Don't have to buy lighter fluid or charcoal to toss the shrimp on the barbie....
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Javaman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-25-10 08:21 AM
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14. Note to self:
"put mayo in the can with the tuna!" from the movie Night Shift.
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joanmj Donating Member (186 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-25-10 08:05 AM
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12. Uugh!
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drm604 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-25-10 08:20 AM
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13. I hope they saved some of it for testing.
My understanding is that they can test to see if it came from that well.

This is frightening.
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truth2power Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-25-10 08:36 AM
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18. Excuse my ignorance, but where else would it have come from?
Just wondering...
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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-25-10 08:49 AM
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22. the gulf of mexico seeps oil naturally
that`s why there`s more off shore rigs than anywhere else in the world..
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texastoast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-25-10 09:56 AM
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36. The tarballs that came up on the Keys were "tested" to prove it wasn't Horizon goo
Now, I might not be the brightest bulb, but I know a little about petroleum. The spin was that the oil volcano was spewing light crude--"not near the mess as heavy crude." (And after all, it is a great big bunch of water--right?) :crazy: The stuff that washed up on the Keys was thick and heavy, and SURPRISE so is a bunch of the stuff coming into the Louisiana wetlands.

I NEVER EVER take one word coming out of an oil executive's mouth to be anything but rapacious blither calculated to fool the masses.
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drm604 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-25-10 10:30 AM
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39. Another leak somewhere? Natural seepage?
I agree that it seems unlikely that it could be from something else, but if they want to try to make a legal claim BP will fight it, so they need to make sure they can prove that it came from that well.
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truth2power Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-25-10 02:19 PM
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48. I'm learning a lot. I heard someone say on the Diane Rehm show this a.m. ..
that there are about 25,000 oil rigs in the Gulf. (I think I heard that correctly). I had no idea.

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texastoast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-25-10 04:04 PM
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49. Ridiculous
My money says it's less than a thousand. Where did they get that number?
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truth2power Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-26-10 07:49 AM
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57. It was my mistake...
I was listening while doing other things, and I heard "thousand" something. Even that seemed like a lot to me. :dunce:

please see ornotna's link below. A lot of very useful information.
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ornotna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-25-10 10:23 PM
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56.  There are 3,858 oil wells in the gulf.
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truth2power Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-26-10 07:53 AM
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58. What a great graphic. Thanks! Lots of useful info there. n/t
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cwydro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-25-10 08:27 AM
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16. We in the Keys
know it is coming...we just aren't how soon or how bad.
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Skelly Donating Member (136 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-25-10 08:44 AM
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19. Middle Keys
Just noticed last night on the jetty at our marina: anchors (large cement pilings)for the oil skirts.
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closeupready Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-25-10 09:06 AM
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24. It's going to be very, very bad and last for many years.
n/t
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zumba da geek Donating Member (8 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-25-10 12:53 PM
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46. keys and oil
Ixtoc 1, the largest offshore oil spill ever, didnt produce as much damage to coastal areas as expected. The bad news is that much of the oil floated to the bottom where it did most of its damage, and to aquatic life. That and acidifying the ocean waters.
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barbtries Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-25-10 09:46 AM
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34. they're going to have to trade in their boat
for a good attorney.
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Uncle Joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-25-10 11:05 AM
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41. Kicked and recommended.
Thanks for the thread, salazarmms.
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WannaJumpMyScooter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-25-10 11:30 AM
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43. Sat image from yesterday
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Quantess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-25-10 04:21 PM
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50. Wow....I wonder how that oil got there.
How mysterious!
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gleaner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-25-10 05:35 PM
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51. I saw this and it made my heart sink ...
Particularly when I saw that it was a National Park and had a large barrier reef ecosystem that helped protect the keys. It is also in the path of the gulf stream which seems to have begun picking up oil from the BP spill.

I found a link which describes it in its context as a National Park with a paragraph of how they are trying to brace as well as they could against the oil spill. http://www.nps.gov/drto/index.htm Someone may already have posted it or something like it. I am back and forth and here and there and haven't had a chance to read every post in the thread. I will, but first I have to care for my husband who is bedridden. Please excuse if the link is a duplicate.
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Catherina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-25-10 08:35 PM
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54. Why aren't those eco-terrorists in jail?
They have ruined so many lives
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hopiakuta Donating Member (62 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-27-10 10:00 AM
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59. Florida; that message would be improved by including the word
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hopiakuta Donating Member (62 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-27-10 10:10 AM
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60. Florida; that message would be improved by including the word "Florida".

Subject: Florida; that message would be improved by including the word "Florida".


Message:

Florida; that message would be improved by including the word "Florida".

Barry Obama says "just plug the damn hole"; I agree with him.

But, to paraphrase Jim Carville, Harry Shearer, Keith Olbermann,.... the President should have spent more time down there, possibly moving, temporarily, to the coast.

How is the United States of America supposed to respond to terrorism?

We bomb their city, arrest, try & execute their leader.

So?

I do, hereby, request Bob Gates to bomb Buckingham.

I do, hereby, request Eric Holder to subject queenpin Liz & Anthony Bryan Hayward to arrest, trial & execution.

&, please do quit with that propaganda initialism, B. P.

British Petroleum

Brit Petrol

&, there are many other versions.

I do, hereby, demand electoral-college abolition;
I do, hereby, demand corporate personhood abolition:
delete John Chandler Bancroft Davis' legacy.

I am an abolitionist.

&, the democraticunderground software failed again.

Thank You,

DonFphrnqTaub Persina

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Nihil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-27-10 11:00 AM
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62. Wanker.
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