Panel calls for Condoleezza Rice to appear

[NNN0LHI]

http://news.bostonherald.com/national/view.bg?articleid=1489

CAPITOL HILL - Members of the federal panel that's been looking into 9/11 say they're not hearing from everyone they want to hear from.

The panel has opened two days of hearings on the anti-terrorism efforts of the Bush and Clinton administrations before 9/11.

The ten-member panel had invited National Security Adviser Condoleezza Rice to testify. She declined, with the White House citing concerns about separation of powers.

One panel member says that's not a good enough excuse.

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[RandomKoolzip]

1. What does "separation of powers" have do do with it?

Jesus, Condi, just tell the fucking truth.

[daveskilt]

3. get her up there to plead the fifth

i love how that worked for ollie north.

[ChavezSpeakstheTruth]

36. truth?

that Vampire can't speak the truth. She'd be found in a car under a highway somewhere

[i_c_a_White_Ghost]

43. "Separation of Powers" is just another excuse

that Nixon used during Watergate. If she had nothing to hide (namely just by telling the truth) then she wouldn't have to hide under this umbrella. Besides, it has nothing to do with the nature of the 9/11 investigation, but instead is provoked when something of national security interest can be breached. Basically it's bull! I wish the press core would have asked bush that very question, "Why can't Condi come forward and testify under oath?"

[buff2]

2. What are they going to do when she keeps refusing

to show up? Nothing. The bu$h nazis don't have to answer to anybody.

[DenverDem]

4. Concerns about separation of powers

She's concerned that she will be separated from her powers, and she should be.

After President Kerry is inagurated, she should be separated from her freedom for a long period of time to pay for her treason.

[Occulus]

17. Isn't treason a capital offense?

[BiggJawn]

42. Yes.

Never mind seperating her from her freedom....

[tinnypriv]

5. Watching on CNN

There was huge applause when one of the members basically called Powell and Armitage idiots for trying to cite separation of powers as an excuse.

[aquart]

6. "Separation of powers"????

They want us to believe they're accountable to no one. Like hell.

[rman]

33. their concern is they do not want to seperate their powers.

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[robnycny]

7. Oh, but...

...she is too busy traveling from TV station to TV station to criticize the Clinton administration! (/sarcasm)

Her absence from appearing before the 9-11 commission is beyond outrageous.

:mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:

[UpInArms]

27. the panel referred to

the whore-mongering that KindaSleazy has been doing to refute Clarke's book:

Former Democratic Congressman Timothy Roemer also noted that Rice has been featured in the media disputing Clarke's claims. He suggests the debate shouldn't be played out in the media, but before the panel.

[MSgt213]

32. Let's get it right her primary target this week is Clarke who was

appointed to the reagan administration by Clinton.

[DemBones DemBones]

62. Snarf! It's amazing (and amusing) that they try to

discredit a man who worked eight years for Reagan, four years for Bush I, and two years for Bush II and talk about how they "kept him on" from Clinton. After twelve straight years working for Republican presidents, Clarke was kept on by a Democratic president for eight years. To me, that suggests that he is, like many civil servants, able to work with people of either party, i.e. not a party hack.

[proud2BlibKansan]

49. Did you also notice

that she has been all over the place talking about Clarke's book the last two days. So she won't testify before the commission but she'll talk to the press? Anybody else see something fishy going on here?

[underpants]

8. Richard Ben-Veniste read off list of POTUS appointees who have tesitified

to MUCH applause.

He told Armitrage, who is testifying in Condi's stead tomorrow, that he had a copy of the list (with dates) that he could take back to the White House.

[Az_lefty]

9. If Condi can go on TV

write editorials she can damn sure testify before the committee. For Pete's sake, she's already shooting her mouth off about this so the separation of powers, national security excuses no longer apply.:mad:

[grannylib]

10. She's the freakin' National Security Advisor, for God's sake!!! Of course

she should testify,UNDER OATH, as should Chimp and Cheney, just as Clinton and Gore will be doing.
What the hell???
If she loves her country and its people, and truly wants to see justice done for the horrific attack on our nation, she would be eager, anxious, willing, and happy to testify in order to see that happen....IF she and the rest of the neocon-job thugs in this administration had been telling the truth from the outset.
But of course, we all know, and there is more than ample documentation and proof, that they are indeed the most crooked bunch of liars ever, and that they are toast either way:
Testify under oath and commit perjury and be vulnerable to impeachment OR testify under oath and be honest and admit what was known and when, thereby admitting culpability.
And of course, if Chimpy were truly interested in defending the people of this country against terrorism, he too would be bending over backwards to aid the commission.
It's a disgrace that they are behaving in this obstructionist fashion; it's an insult and an outrage not only to the survivors and the families of the victims, but to all of us who truly cherish freedom and truth.
I'm pissed, people....really really pissed.

[Az_lefty]

12. Is Clinton & Gore going to testify?????

If that's true (not doubting you) then she has absolutely no excuse, and neither does her boss.:argh:

[grannylib]

19. There was a letter released a couple weeks ago by the commission,

pointedly thanking Clinton Gore and members of their administration being willing to testify for as long as needed; can't remember exact wording. Real slap in the face to the Bushistas.

[Catherine Vincent]

11. The guy in the hearings started it, he set the tone!

Wheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!!!!!

[54anickel]

22. Hey, that picture - was Clinton a "southpaw"?

[JoFerret]

23. Yes.

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[54anickel]

30. Thanks, I didn't know that. Sorry to break into the thread with something

so trivial.

[5thGenDemocrat]

53. A little more trivia, then

All three presidential candidates from 1992 -- Clinton, Bush Sr and Perot -- are left-handed. I think Harry Truman and Gerald Ford were the only other left-handed presidents.
John
Left-handed myself. Oh, yeah -- and CRUCIFY CONDESCENDZA!!

[DemBones DemBones]

61. I agree -- CRUCIFY CONDESCENDZA!!

Well, at least, GRILL CONDESCENDZA!!! If she can go on the talk shows, she can go before the 9/11 commission.

[Dhalgren]

37. If you're talking about his penis,

I think he "dressed" to the left. But you can ask Monica for sure.:)

[0007]

52. Paula Jones claimed she knew which way it stood

But I don't believe her anymore than I believe Condoleezza Rice gave top dog good head.

[colonel odis]

13. it's clinton's penis's fault! didn't you hear?

that's the culprit responsible for 9/11, the recession that happened after bush took office, the loss of jobs, outsourcing, and everything else that's just awful.

it's all the fault of clinton's wicked, wicked penis.

[JoFerret]

24. Actually it is that - their obsession with it.

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[riskpeace]

56. "sad but true"

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[Desperadoe]

14. Put her under oath

and Condi would think that she wandered into the Spanish Inquisition. Hell, she'd confess to killing Lincoln, Kennedy and MLK in 10 minutes.

The BFEE will never let her testify unless they are forced to. She'd fall like a house of cards.

[asthmaticeog]

15. The real reason

she won't appear is the way her head rapidly bobs and shakes when she lies -- she's afraid her head may fly off if she testifies.

[goclark]

16. Condi, Come Out From Under The Desk!

Come out from under the desk.
Get your butt up to that Hearing and spill the beans.

You can do it Girl friend, you can do it!

Remember your roots if that's possible...

Harriett Tubman would walk up there , not in a fancy black car paid for by your poor Brothers and Sisters and Others,she would WALK and make us proud

Dorothy Height would push herself in her wheel chair to get to that Hearing

Rosa Parks would ride at the back of the bus to get there!

Condi,be brave!

Stop living the lie for these bigots.
They don't really care about people that look like you and me.
You are going to go down with this sinking ship,,,maybe your oil tanker if you don't get ahold of yourself girl!!!!

Go up there and testify,let the truth from your heart roll down like a mighty stream. Martin would smile down on you girlfriend.

Now, get up there and walk in with dignity and show them the woman that your momma and daddy raised.
We in the Black community would be proud of you!
We are a forgiving people.

[jaysunb]

34. Very Good Post !!!!

This Brother concurs with you 100 %
:toast:

[catmandu57]

18. Can she be subpoenaed

and ordered to appear? Her absense though may say more than any lie that escapes her lips.

[pippin]

21. if she is and doesn't show up

she can get chucked into the slammer!!! Hee! Hee! :D

[proud2BlibKansan]

50. No she can't

At least that 's what the right wingers were saying on the radio today. It was kinda funny, like they were little kids with their fingers in their ears and their tongues stuck out, saying "nana na booboo, she don't have to"

[truthspeaker]

59. I'm not sure what the legal precedent is

I don't think there's an established immunity or "privilege" for cabinet members.

[Dead_Parrot]

20. What a sack of shit. n/t

[Demonaut]

25. National Security Advisor.......isnt her testimony one of the most

important?..........what are they hiding?

[tlcandie]

26. Some of those on the commission flat out said that she had plenty

of time and ability to politicize Clarke's book, but not show up for questions regarding 9-11.

I saw several slaps in the face before the noon hour for this cabal! Including some chuckles and snorts.

[truthseeker1]

48. Tim Roemer, I think (former Senator??) eom

[skypilot]

28. "Invited" her to testify?!?!

Invited??

Subpoena her ass!!!

[proud patriot]

29. We have them on the run

and boy am I having fun watching these
lying cowards squirm ..

The Lied to the World .

Because Liars are to be Shunned for Generations

Benidict Arnolds all of them in this current Admin.

[NNN0LHI]

46. I think you may be on to something p p n/t

[Az_lefty]

31. Listen to hearings here...

http://www.npr.org/ click "NPR Live"

[mulsh]

35. secretaries of state & defence testified

how come a lower level official needs separation of powers protection?
oh yea her head might bauble off.

[goclark]

40. Remember that SHE is HE

SHE is really HE(Bush.) They know that she talks for him, talks into his ear piece,reads his paper for him, interprets any written communication directed to him. SHE is HE.

When they make her testify,that is tooo close to the Unpresident.
I am sure that they want to do any and every thing to keep her mouth shut.

I keep coming back to Watergate. Remember how Democrats had to keep the pressure on? It wastrue democracy in action!

At that time we did have brilliant minds asking the questions at the Hearings. Sam Irvin (sp.?).."What did you know and when did you know it?"
These committee members are not strong enough for my book. They are stalling and wasting precious time with their long winded questions.

[NJmaverick]

38. She should be FORCED to testify

She had no problem talking about this stuff on TV while she told her vile lies to smear Clarke!

[Kimber Scott]

39. These people forget they work for US as in WE.

They are our employees and they should be forced to be accountable to us. Period.

[Lori Price CLG]

41. Well, we would have to endure her heinous visage all day...

if Rice testified before the 9-11 Commission. I am not sure it's worth it.
:)-Lori Price

[Ilsa]

44. An African America woman, 9-11 Families org person on The Today Show

this morning was explaining that they had questions for the Administration about wha they knew, etc, WHY were the Saudis allowed to leave a few days after 9-11 after only minimal investigation and questioning by the FBI.

Then she went on about how much she used to admire Dr. Rice, but is so disappointed in her now, especially over refusal to publicly testify and answer the hard questions.

[chookie]

45. A classic dilemma

She wants to be loyal to her boss, yet she doesn't want to spend time in jail for perjury.

Poor NeoCondi.

[Parche]

47. RICE-A-RONI

FRIED RICE GETS FRIED

She and GW are hiding something

[Just Me]

51. Well,...the hearing was as frustrating for me as I expected it would be,..

,...and came off exactly as soft as I anticipated. None of the tough specific questions were asked. No analytical skepticism was shown. Everyone seemed to have their own "plans" in place and the whole thing appeared like a performance,...to me. The 9/11 families must have been particularly disappointed beyond the singular "play" concerning Rice going on record, under oath.

Our particularly opaque government is simply disgusting when it spouts "democracy" as its goal.

[MetaTrope]

60. And what's with releasing their preliminary findings in a matter of hours

If that? Did they already have it written and waiting, testimony be damned?

[w4rma]

54. She's more concerned with Bush being separated from his powers in November

than with the nation's security.

[Finbar]

55. 1st post

Brand new here. Have a car radio stuck on AM. So all I can listen to is either radio disney, or Rush, Sean Hannity, Laura Ingram, Savage Nation... etc... I hate Driving now. These hosts can't debate callers intelligently, so they insult and ridicule. I think they know they are in deep shit, and have nowhere to hide, so they are resorting to 3rd grade tactics.

[tlcandie]

57. Welcome Finbar!!!

Hope you enjoy your new DU family!! :hi:


BTW... can someone please design a condi baubble-head thingey for the car? Like those doggie ones? WOULD be great for us to use as a joke :+ If the dems sold it .. I think I would buy one for a collection! Hell maybe ALL of them should have baubble-heads made because they all lie so much hard to keep up!

[yellowcanine]

58. Isn't it a presidential commission?

The chair and several of the members were appointed by the president, isn't that so? How can it be a separation af powers issue? It is not a congressional commission.