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demoleft (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-16-10 07:35 PM Original message |
Seattle police to review training after girl punched |
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Evergreen Emerald (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-16-10 07:46 PM Response to Original message |
1. Here is the uncut video |
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Vattel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-16-10 08:00 PM Response to Reply #1 |
2. My 5-yr-old niece has subjected me to far worse attacks |
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Evergreen Emerald (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-16-10 08:03 PM Response to Reply #2 |
3. This woman was not five years old |
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zonkers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-16-10 08:15 PM Response to Reply #2 |
5. Failed analogy for too many reasons to list here. |
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Vattel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-16-10 10:57 PM Response to Reply #5 |
90. Give me a break |
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superconnected (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-17-10 09:41 AM Response to Reply #90 |
173. Actually most cities would have tazed the two. And considered it appropriate. |
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Synicus Maximus (828 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-17-10 07:37 PM Response to Reply #90 |
197. There was no dispropotionate response. |
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fascisthunter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-18-10 05:34 PM Response to Reply #197 |
237. punching a 17 year old girl in the face isn't disproportionate huh? |
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boppers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-16-10 11:59 PM Response to Reply #2 |
142. Your 5-yr-old niece has a firearm, and is being grabbed at by others in a crowd? |
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Skip Intro (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-16-10 08:11 PM Response to Reply #1 |
4. I completely agree with you. nt |
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swishyfeet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-16-10 08:40 PM Response to Reply #1 |
10. Thanks for the full vid |
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KansDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-16-10 08:55 PM Response to Reply #1 |
14. "In the midst of an angry group of people..." |
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MadMaddie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-16-10 09:10 PM Response to Reply #14 |
21. He probably didn't think it was going to escalate as fast as it did |
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Bonobo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-16-10 09:22 PM Response to Reply #21 |
28. And the over-the top rhetoric award goes to... |
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CLANG (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-16-10 10:13 PM Response to Reply #28 |
41. Either one could have had a knife - so it's not over-the-top. |
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Bonobo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-16-10 10:19 PM Response to Reply #41 |
47. Yeah, he probably should have shot the people near him too. |
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Pavulon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-16-10 10:25 PM Response to Reply #47 |
54. Use of force continuum. See he was soft hands |
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Bonobo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-16-10 10:28 PM Response to Reply #54 |
58. Shitty cop. He needs more training. Even the Seattle police agree. |
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Pavulon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-16-10 10:30 PM Response to Reply #58 |
63. Disagree with what? He did his job. He is supposed to be around people |
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MadMaddie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-16-10 11:45 PM Response to Reply #58 |
129. He did not escalate the situation the girls did |
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Bonobo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-16-10 11:47 PM Response to Reply #129 |
131. Crappy cop. Bad judgment. nt |
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Scout (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-18-10 02:52 PM Response to Reply #131 |
230. the great Bonobo has spoken!! :rofl: n/t |
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HardWorkingDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-22-10 11:25 AM Response to Reply #58 |
313. Right.... |
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Bonobo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-23-10 04:18 AM Response to Reply #313 |
323. Crappy cop, wasted lots of resources for no real upside. |
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awoke_in_2003 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-17-10 07:43 PM Response to Reply #54 |
198. this is the one time |
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Recursion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-24-10 01:43 PM Response to Reply #54 |
325. People don't die from getting hit in the face? |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-16-10 10:31 PM Response to Reply #47 |
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toopers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-17-10 03:00 PM Response to Reply #47 |
184. Yes, and look how she escalated the situation . . . |
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fascisthunter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-18-10 05:39 PM Response to Reply #184 |
240. the cop was lucky he didn't get pummeled by the crowd standing around the incident. |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-18-10 09:52 PM Response to Reply #184 |
243. Was that the original event . . . "Jaywalking" . . . ???? Wow .... crazy cop -- |
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HardWorkingDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-22-10 11:34 AM Response to Reply #47 |
315. Are you a police officer? |
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MadMaddie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-16-10 11:44 PM Response to Reply #41 |
127. CLANG I am with you |
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Bonobo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-16-10 11:46 PM Response to Reply #127 |
130. Weird... |
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superconnected (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-17-10 09:33 AM Response to Reply #14 |
172. At what point in that video did he have time to call for backup - and I mean when there was a reason |
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proteus_lives (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-16-10 11:32 PM Response to Reply #1 |
118. +1 |
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KurtNYC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-17-10 09:15 AM Response to Reply #118 |
170. Especially the audio |
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mbperrin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-17-10 04:04 PM Response to Reply #170 |
187. Anyone besides me think this was a gang ritual? |
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Lasher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-18-10 05:07 AM Response to Reply #187 |
217. That thought did not occur to me. |
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superconnected (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-17-10 09:32 AM Response to Reply #1 |
171. I agree with you. I was sad to see the full uncut video had the girls going after the officer like |
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Hosnon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-17-10 10:07 AM Response to Reply #1 |
174. I agree. While the underlying reason for the stop may be a bit ridiculous, his response |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-18-10 09:55 PM Response to Reply #174 |
244. Something wrong if the original incident was JAYWALKING? |
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crim son (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-17-10 12:35 PM Response to Reply #1 |
176. Police must adhere to certain standards, period. |
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awoke_in_2003 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-17-10 07:56 PM Response to Reply #176 |
200. he didn't punch the offender.. |
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crim son (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-17-10 08:22 PM Response to Reply #200 |
201. I consider |
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awoke_in_2003 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-17-10 08:39 PM Response to Reply #201 |
203. Oh, i see what you mean... |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-18-10 09:58 PM Response to Reply #203 |
246. ... because it was so essential to push this this far to "cite" two jaywalkers...??? |
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awoke_in_2003 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-19-10 01:45 PM Response to Reply #246 |
285. so if a cop is giving me a ticket... |
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S_B_Jackson (564 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-22-10 08:42 AM Response to Reply #246 |
308. And why was that police officer there in the first place? |
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Lagomorph (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-17-10 08:28 PM Response to Reply #176 |
202. I disagree on so many levels.... |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-18-10 10:01 PM Response to Reply #202 |
247. This officer needed more training in containing incidents rather than letting |
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Lagomorph (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-20-10 01:51 AM Response to Reply #247 |
290. The police don't do anything in that neighborhood... |
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Abq_Sarah (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-17-10 11:53 PM Response to Reply #176 |
209. His actions were reasonable |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-18-10 09:56 PM Response to Reply #176 |
245. Jaywalking ended up with 5 police cars at the scene . . . $$$$$$$$$$ -- this copy should go -- |
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1Hippiechick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-19-10 02:35 AM Response to Reply #1 |
282. We have seen Big Brother, and he is us. Our society will never accept a man hitting a woman, imo |
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Downwinder (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-16-10 08:16 PM Response to Original message |
6. Lucky it was not BART. n/t |
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awoke_in_2003 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-16-10 08:16 PM Response to Original message |
7. it really pains me to say this... |
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MadMaddie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-16-10 08:18 PM Response to Reply #7 |
9. That's exactly how police are trained. |
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MadMaddie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-16-10 08:17 PM Response to Original message |
8. The next time something like this happens and a cop gets |
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Skip Intro (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-16-10 08:45 PM Response to Reply #8 |
11. +100 nt |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-18-10 10:04 PM Response to Reply #8 |
248. Jaywalking is dangerous ... for the jaywalker-!! Handle that with community policing .... |
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KurtNYC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-20-10 07:54 AM Response to Reply #248 |
298. If I screamed at an officer to "Get the f*ck off me!" and then called |
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Francisco (132 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-16-10 08:52 PM Response to Original message |
12. Wow I'm looking through the replies and.. |
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Bonobo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-16-10 08:57 PM Response to Reply #12 |
15. Yup. Believe it. |
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Francisco (132 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-16-10 09:00 PM Response to Reply #15 |
18. Failed attempt at a joke.. |
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Bonobo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-16-10 09:05 PM Response to Reply #18 |
19. I am completely serious. nt |
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MadMaddie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-16-10 09:08 PM Response to Reply #12 |
20. Okay lets go over this |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-18-10 10:13 PM Response to Reply #20 |
250. How many AAs in jail -- how many with arrest records? Anything to do with conditions? |
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greiner3 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-16-10 09:10 PM Response to Reply #12 |
22. Trolls are the ones who enjoy black women; |
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MadMaddie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-16-10 09:17 PM Response to Reply #22 |
24. Uhhhhh I am not a troll and I have been here for years |
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Skip Intro (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-16-10 09:22 PM Response to Reply #24 |
26. Some cry troll when they have nothing to add to a conversation. nt |
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MadMaddie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-16-10 11:47 PM Response to Reply #26 |
132. Aparantly! |
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Bonobo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-16-10 11:53 PM Response to Reply #132 |
136. A-what? |
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MadMaddie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-17-10 08:39 PM Response to Reply #136 |
204. Fat fingered the key board......sigh... |
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Maine-ah (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-17-10 08:14 AM Response to Reply #24 |
166. and here I was thinking DU consisted of only white men |
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Lagomorph (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-20-10 03:12 AM Response to Reply #24 |
292. I live in Seattle. |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-16-10 10:18 PM Response to Reply #22 |
46. Deleted message |
Fastcars (121 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-17-10 07:39 AM Response to Reply #22 |
164. What part of the South is Seattle in? |
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fascisthunter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-18-10 05:38 PM Response to Reply #22 |
239. funny, because I think you nailed it |
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CLANG (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-16-10 10:16 PM Response to Reply #12 |
45. You're logic has failed you. Plus, you don't know what you are talking about. |
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midnight (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-16-10 10:23 PM Response to Reply #12 |
50. Plus 1,000. |
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Abq_Sarah (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-17-10 11:56 PM Response to Reply #12 |
210. As a woman |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-18-10 10:53 PM Response to Reply #210 |
261. The women were arrested -- not given "a pass" -- and one punched in the face ... |
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MellonCollie (65 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-20-10 07:05 AM Response to Reply #210 |
294. I wish there were more like you on DU. n/t |
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noiretextatique (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-18-10 02:39 PM Response to Reply #12 |
226. i agree 1000%...disturbing, to say the least, that so many support this cop's actions |
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Scout (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-18-10 03:01 PM Response to Reply #226 |
233. don't let the door hit you on the ass, good riddance. n/t |
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noiretextatique (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-18-10 04:26 PM Response to Reply #233 |
236. good riddance is right |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-18-10 10:18 PM Response to Reply #226 |
251. So easy to convince people that more VIOLENCE is needed in every situation--!!! |
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fascisthunter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-18-10 05:37 PM Response to Reply #12 |
238. you don't have to be a democrat, liberal or conservative to sign up here |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-18-10 10:21 PM Response to Reply #238 |
252. People are trained to easily accept authoritarian response without questioning it .... |
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fascisthunter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-18-10 10:23 PM Response to Reply #252 |
253. well said... cold you imagine this happening in a white suburban neighborhood |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-18-10 10:58 PM Response to Reply #253 |
262. Nope -- you're right -- |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-18-10 10:06 PM Response to Reply #12 |
249. Agree -- officer failed in letting jaywalking become a physical confrontation with |
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lumberjack_jeff (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-18-10 11:05 PM Response to Reply #12 |
264. Does the fact that it was a woman make all the difference? n/t |
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HardWorkingDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-22-10 11:18 AM Response to Reply #12 |
311. BS! |
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RedstDem (356 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-16-10 08:55 PM Response to Original message |
13. Amazing all that hapened for a trivial offence |
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Francisco (132 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-16-10 08:59 PM Response to Reply #13 |
16. EXACTLY! |
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MadMaddie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-16-10 09:14 PM Response to Reply #16 |
23. Have you ever worn the uniform? |
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Francisco (132 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-16-10 09:38 PM Response to Reply #23 |
35. No.. |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-18-10 10:25 PM Response to Reply #35 |
255. Exactly -- |
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brendan120678 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-17-10 01:24 PM Response to Reply #16 |
181. She didn't get punched for jaywalking... |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-18-10 10:24 PM Response to Reply #16 |
254. Agree -- people who see this behavior as "fine" certainly don't expect anything |
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Theobald (411 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-21-10 11:07 AM Response to Reply #254 |
305. Are you seriously suggesting that NYC stopped turnstile jumpers |
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MadMaddie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-16-10 08:59 PM Response to Reply #13 |
17. People are getting killed in Seattle jay walking. |
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Bonobo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-16-10 09:20 PM Response to Reply #17 |
25. The cop is bad at his job. Why is it so impossible to admit this? |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-18-10 10:29 PM Response to Reply #25 |
259. Agree -- PLUS five police cars had to respond -- !! |
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S_B_Jackson (564 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-22-10 08:51 AM Response to Reply #259 |
310. Well, what do you think is going to happen after he puts out a radio call... |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-18-10 10:26 PM Response to Reply #17 |
256. Educate the public . . . don't punch them -- put community policing on it -- |
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Prometheus Bound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-16-10 09:22 PM Response to Reply #13 |
27. I like the old cop's comment at 4:32: "You didn't have to do all that." |
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SDuderstadt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-18-10 01:39 AM Response to Reply #27 |
214. Yeah...because there are more cops there at that point.... |
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SDuderstadt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-18-10 11:53 AM Response to Reply #27 |
222. More shoot-first, ask-questions-later |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-18-10 10:27 PM Response to Reply #27 |
257. Excellent observations, Prometheus!! |
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Evergreen Emerald (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-16-10 09:35 PM Response to Reply #13 |
31. The school called the police and asked for help with jaywalking |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-18-10 10:28 PM Response to Reply #31 |
258. Maybe they need a crossing guard there? |
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ManiacJoe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-19-10 05:18 PM Response to Reply #258 |
286. People need to stop being lazy... |
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Pavulon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-16-10 09:38 PM Response to Reply #13 |
34. Cops were at my place for noise all the time |
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SILVER__FOX52 (460 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-16-10 09:33 PM Response to Original message |
29. These cop kids are way to young to have this much power. |
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Jester Messiah (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-16-10 09:35 PM Response to Original message |
30. I can see the training instructors now... |
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alp227 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-16-10 09:35 PM Response to Original message |
32. Seattle Police blotter: "Officer Assaulted in South Seattle" |
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Evergreen Emerald (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-16-10 09:37 PM Response to Reply #32 |
33. " placed her hands on the officer's arm" |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-16-10 09:45 PM Response to Reply #33 |
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Pavulon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-16-10 09:51 PM Response to Reply #36 |
37. mark time 11 seconds in, apologize |
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Bonobo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-16-10 09:55 PM Response to Reply #37 |
38. You saw what you wanted and needed to see. There was no punch at all. |
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Pavulon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-16-10 10:21 PM Response to Reply #38 |
48. VIDEO: She hit him 11 sec mark. No one said punch. Not me, not the poster |
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Bonobo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-16-10 10:23 PM Response to Reply #48 |
51. Ha ha. "Hit" does not equal "punch". LOL. You should be a politician. nt |
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Pavulon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-16-10 10:26 PM Response to Reply #51 |
55. Soft hands escalate to hard hands. |
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Bonobo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-16-10 10:29 PM Response to Reply #55 |
61. Never should have got to that point. Shitty job by a shitty cop. nt |
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noiretextatique (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-18-10 02:41 PM Response to Reply #48 |
227. actually...she pushed him, not hit him |
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Evasporque (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-17-10 07:22 AM Response to Reply #38 |
162. The girl pushed the cop back and began to draw back her left fist as to strike... |
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Hassin Bin Sober (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-17-10 08:02 AM Response to Reply #162 |
165. Yep. She had her left up like she wanted to box. THAT'S when the cop tagged her in the nose. |
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CLANG (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-16-10 10:24 PM Response to Reply #32 |
53. All he wanted to do was give them a ticket |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-18-10 10:33 PM Response to Reply #53 |
260. Officer lost control of the situation . . . how should jaywalking escalate to punching and 5 police |
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NutmegYankee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-16-10 09:59 PM Response to Original message |
39. Having watched the uncut video, I think the Officer was right. |
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KT2000 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-16-10 10:15 PM Response to Reply #39 |
44. Agree! |
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pipoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-16-10 10:53 PM Response to Reply #39 |
84. Anyone who believes otherwise has no clue what |
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Bonobo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-16-10 10:59 PM Response to Reply #84 |
93. Frogs |
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Pavulon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-16-10 11:29 PM Response to Reply #93 |
115. Mmm, tasty |
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Bonobo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-16-10 11:35 PM Response to Reply #115 |
122. So you have a sense of humor! |
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pipoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-17-10 06:08 AM Response to Reply #93 |
159. You obviously don't know even the smallest detail about me |
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MadMaddie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-16-10 11:55 PM Response to Reply #84 |
139. Yup! I agree with you! |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-16-10 10:07 PM Response to Original message |
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NutmegYankee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-16-10 10:14 PM Response to Reply #40 |
42. If the defenders cannot be reasoned with - |
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Pavulon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-16-10 10:22 PM Response to Reply #40 |
49. Is 11 seconds evil? What should he do? |
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Bonobo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-16-10 10:24 PM Response to Reply #49 |
52. He did a shitty job controlling the situation. Deny it all you want. nt |
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Pavulon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-16-10 10:28 PM Response to Reply #52 |
57. With what mind control? People are fucking stupid |
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Bonobo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-16-10 10:30 PM Response to Reply #57 |
62. Does he have a brain, a voice? No need for it to have gotten to that point. |
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Pavulon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-16-10 10:32 PM Response to Reply #62 |
65. Yea the fatter stupid person should not have assaulted him |
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Bonobo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-16-10 10:36 PM Response to Reply #65 |
67. He needs retraining in basic de-escalation skills. nt |
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Pavulon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-16-10 10:38 PM Response to Reply #67 |
69. He needed to call more officers and then spray her with OC |
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Bonobo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-16-10 10:39 PM Response to Reply #69 |
70. Yup, they were stupid. But he is still a shitty cop who needs retraining. nt |
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Pavulon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-16-10 10:44 PM Response to Reply #70 |
74. What should he have done different at 11 sec? |
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Bonobo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-16-10 10:45 PM Response to Reply #74 |
75. He is shitty cop because he let it get to second 11. |
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Pavulon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-16-10 10:48 PM Response to Reply #75 |
78. He should have gotten in his car and ignored it all |
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Bonobo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-16-10 10:50 PM Response to Reply #78 |
80. Low expectations. That's one of the biggest causes for incompetent job performance. |
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Pavulon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-16-10 10:54 PM Response to Reply #80 |
87. I expect better from our police. |
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NutmegYankee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-16-10 10:48 PM Response to Reply #62 |
79. It appears talking was tried - and failed due to no fault of the Officer. |
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Vattel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-16-10 10:54 PM Response to Reply #52 |
86. The amazing thing is how obvious it is that you are right. |
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Pavulon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-16-10 10:56 PM Response to Reply #86 |
89. Soft hands to hard hands, going to OC would look better. 11 seconds |
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Bonobo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-16-10 11:05 PM Response to Reply #89 |
97. "unwashed masses" is exactly how most cops talk about civilians as they drive in their cruisers. |
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Pavulon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-16-10 11:16 PM Response to Reply #97 |
103. Nope, never have been. Did serve with cops in the NG |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-16-10 10:26 PM Response to Reply #40 |
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MadMaddie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-16-10 11:54 PM Response to Reply #40 |
137. Soooo what you are saying is that it is okay for anyone |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-18-10 04:03 AM Response to Reply #137 |
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noiretextatique (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-18-10 02:45 PM Response to Reply #40 |
228. agreed....there is an insane belief in this country that authority |
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SILVER__FOX52 (460 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-18-10 02:58 PM Response to Reply #228 |
232. You said it very well.... |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-18-10 11:02 PM Response to Reply #228 |
263. Have to K&R your post . . .. |
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Scout (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-18-10 03:05 PM Response to Reply #40 |
234. :rofl: not sure if i should keep laughing at you or feel sorry for you! n/t |
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HardWorkingDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-22-10 11:44 AM Response to Reply #40 |
316. Please explain how YOU would have dealt with this.... |
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KT2000 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-16-10 10:14 PM Response to Original message |
43. Just what exactly did those girls |
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MadMaddie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-16-10 11:49 PM Response to Reply #43 |
134. Thank you! You are saying what I have been saying. |
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KT2000 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-17-10 01:24 AM Response to Reply #134 |
158. Yes - I read your posts |
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MadMaddie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-17-10 04:11 PM Response to Reply #158 |
188. I can't find the original article but I know that it was near a school |
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KT2000 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-17-10 04:20 PM Response to Reply #188 |
190. Thanks |
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FailureToCommunicate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-17-10 01:17 PM Response to Reply #43 |
177. ..."dregs of society"? Are jaywalkers that? I know you what you meant, but still we ALL |
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KT2000 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-17-10 02:50 PM Response to Reply #177 |
183. Do I really have to explain |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-18-10 11:08 PM Response to Reply #183 |
266. And . . . obviously something should be done to improve the intersection . . . |
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Scout (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-22-10 08:48 AM Response to Reply #266 |
309. "Jaywalkers are risking their own lives -- so why is that happening?" |
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noiretextatique (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-18-10 02:48 PM Response to Reply #43 |
229. his training officer disagrees with you |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-18-10 11:05 PM Response to Reply #43 |
265. You seem to have explained the problem quite clearly . . . |
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lumberjack_jeff (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-18-10 11:09 PM Response to Reply #43 |
267. The red-shirt girl's boyfriend knew. He tried to restrain her from going after the cop. n/t |
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liquid diamond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-16-10 10:28 PM Response to Original message |
59. I thought this would happen. And to think people here |
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FailureToCommunicate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-16-10 10:28 PM Response to Original message |
60. Jaywalking while Black. Same (very) old story. |
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Pavulon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-16-10 10:34 PM Response to Reply #60 |
66. Yep, if those were stupid white girls or a black cop |
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FailureToCommunicate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-17-10 01:20 PM Response to Reply #66 |
178. Oh, right, going to court always works out so well if you're Black... |
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Scout (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-18-10 03:21 PM Response to Reply #178 |
235. fighting them in the streets works so much better! such ignorance on display |
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NutmegYankee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-16-10 10:59 PM Response to Reply #60 |
92. I don't think race really is a factor here. |
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MadMaddie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-16-10 11:57 PM Response to Reply #60 |
141. Sigh...We live in the Seattle Area |
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FailureToCommunicate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-17-10 01:24 PM Response to Reply #141 |
179. Fine. But where is the video of the cop arresting -and punching- teenage white girls |
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MadMaddie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-17-10 04:13 PM Response to Reply #179 |
189. It is rare that it is on tape I agree. I am sure it has happened |
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FailureToCommunicate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-17-10 07:34 PM Response to Reply #189 |
196. I am heartened that you have such a post 'Civil Right Era' attitude on this event. |
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MadMaddie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-17-10 08:43 PM Response to Reply #196 |
206. I totally understand and please don't think that I believe that |
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FailureToCommunicate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-18-10 08:32 AM Response to Reply #206 |
221. Thanks. Will do. |
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pipoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-17-10 06:21 AM Response to Reply #60 |
160. Or maybe jaywalking while wanted for a warrant? |
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KT2000 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-17-10 03:51 PM Response to Reply #60 |
186. Here is an idea |
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FailureToCommunicate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-17-10 07:55 PM Response to Reply #186 |
199. Okay I google mapped it. It looks no more dangerous than a zillion other busy roads |
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KT2000 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-17-10 08:56 PM Response to Reply #199 |
207. Oh brother |
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FailureToCommunicate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-17-10 11:20 PM Response to Reply #207 |
208. I know it's not about jaywalking. It's about stepped up, unevenly applied enforcement |
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KT2000 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-18-10 12:58 AM Response to Reply #208 |
212. Answer #1 |
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FailureToCommunicate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-18-10 08:26 AM Response to Reply #212 |
219. You may find a handful of examples of your take on this. I've got the vast collection of |
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KT2000 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-18-10 01:17 AM Response to Reply #208 |
213. Answer #2 |
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FailureToCommunicate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-18-10 08:28 AM Response to Reply #213 |
220. See response #205 below or see this link: |
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noiretextatique (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-18-10 02:55 PM Response to Reply #208 |
231. bingo.... |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-18-10 11:12 PM Response to Reply #60 |
268. Agree --- that can't be ignored -- |
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Prometheus Bound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-16-10 10:37 PM Response to Original message |
68. So the girls will be heroes and the cop a laughingstock. Nationally. Even internationally. |
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Bonobo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-16-10 10:41 PM Response to Reply #68 |
71. All of the above. That cop needs some serious training. |
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Prometheus Bound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-16-10 10:50 PM Response to Reply #71 |
81. No. What was that? |
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Bonobo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-16-10 10:51 PM Response to Reply #81 |
83. Here you go. Don't want to spoil the punchline. |
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Prometheus Bound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-16-10 10:56 PM Response to Reply #71 |
88. Oh damn. That was good. Have to buy that DVD. |
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Pavulon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-16-10 10:42 PM Response to Reply #68 |
72. No they are stupid. And will probably continue being stupid |
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Bonobo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-16-10 10:43 PM Response to Reply #72 |
73. Real crappy, inexperienced cops should be given desk duty. |
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Pavulon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-16-10 10:46 PM Response to Reply #73 |
76. And stupid fuckers should hang themselves |
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Bonobo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-16-10 10:48 PM Response to Reply #76 |
77. I guess you have a beef with the Seattle police then. |
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Pavulon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-16-10 10:51 PM Response to Reply #77 |
82. Thats called PR. Like going on leave after someone gets shot |
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Bonobo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-16-10 10:53 PM Response to Reply #82 |
85. Well, people embedded in a system rarely have the perspective to judge it objectively. |
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Pavulon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-16-10 10:57 PM Response to Reply #85 |
91. Answer my question please. What should he have done? |
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Bonobo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-16-10 11:04 PM Response to Reply #91 |
95. The answer that you don't really want to deal with is that it should not have gotten to that point. |
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Pavulon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-16-10 11:11 PM Response to Reply #95 |
100. We agree, OC would look better for the unwashed and ill informed |
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Bonobo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-16-10 11:14 PM Response to Reply #100 |
102. Police use their own judgment weighing the seriousness of the crime vs the potential |
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Pavulon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-16-10 11:19 PM Response to Reply #102 |
105. Yeah, pretty sure his job is safe. |
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MadMaddie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-17-10 12:00 AM Response to Reply #95 |
143. The right answer is the girls knew the law and should have |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-18-10 11:16 PM Response to Reply #143 |
269. So, you think if the cop could re-do this, he'd do it the same way? |
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Vattel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-16-10 11:14 PM Response to Reply #91 |
101. Pushing the one girl back would have been plenty force, |
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Pavulon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-16-10 11:22 PM Response to Reply #101 |
107. Yeah, they were complying with verbal commands |
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Vattel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-16-10 11:29 PM Response to Reply #107 |
116. Sure, and you know that they would have fled the scene |
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Pavulon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-16-10 11:33 PM Response to Reply #116 |
119. The who fighting and resisting part are clues. |
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Bonobo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-16-10 11:34 PM Response to Reply #119 |
120. And what if it had been a big black cop punching a suburban white teen princess |
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CLANG (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-17-10 12:20 AM Response to Reply #120 |
151. Race has nothing to do with this. |
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Bonobo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-17-10 12:39 AM Response to Reply #151 |
156. Stay out of it, Clang. Pavulon thinks race has EVERYTHING to do with it, |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-18-10 11:18 PM Response to Reply #151 |
270. Naive -- race always has something to do with police enforcement -- and our prisons!! |
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Pavulon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-17-10 07:20 AM Response to Reply #120 |
161. She would still have a black eye. And still be really stupid |
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TPaine7 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-17-10 01:45 PM Response to Reply #72 |
182. "If this were a black officer or stupid white girls no one would give a shit." |
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Pavulon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-17-10 04:44 PM Response to Reply #182 |
192. Remember that case where two black officers broke the law and beat a black |
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TPaine7 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-17-10 05:25 PM Response to Reply #192 |
194. Remember when I said that "young white girls are at the pinnacle of America's concern"? |
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flvegan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-16-10 11:00 PM Response to Original message |
94. Good for the cop. He did the right thing. |
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Bonobo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-16-10 11:06 PM Response to Reply #94 |
98. LOL. nt |
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flvegan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-16-10 11:18 PM Response to Reply #98 |
104. Care to explain? |
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Bonobo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-16-10 11:20 PM Response to Reply #104 |
106. Sometimes things just make me chuckle. I should have been more discrete. Sorry. nt |
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Pavulon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-16-10 11:24 PM Response to Reply #106 |
108. My frogs like blotter acid.. They help me post(nt) |
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Bonobo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-16-10 11:28 PM Response to Reply #108 |
113. Frogs can absorb the acid directly through membranes on their skin! nt |
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Pavulon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-16-10 11:31 PM Response to Reply #113 |
117. So can people.. There is actually an equation |
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flvegan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-16-10 11:26 PM Response to Reply #106 |
111. No worries. |
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Vattel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-16-10 11:24 PM Response to Reply #94 |
109. Sure, you can have your laugh, |
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Pavulon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-16-10 11:26 PM Response to Reply #109 |
110. Do frogs count as meat? or are they like chicken? |
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Bonobo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-16-10 11:26 PM Response to Reply #109 |
112. Oh My God! nt |
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flvegan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-16-10 11:29 PM Response to Reply #109 |
114. Is that what you really think? |
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Vattel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-16-10 11:35 PM Response to Reply #114 |
121. wait a minute |
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Bonobo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-16-10 11:39 PM Response to Reply #121 |
124. He was being serious. That was my read. It was why I chuckled spontaneously. nt |
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Vattel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-16-10 11:52 PM Response to Reply #124 |
135. Damn, I really misread that one. |
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Bonobo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-16-10 11:54 PM Response to Reply #135 |
138. Well you gave me the laugh of a lifetime with your reply. |
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flvegan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-17-10 12:02 AM Response to Reply #121 |
145. Non-answer. |
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Bonobo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-17-10 12:03 AM Response to Reply #145 |
148. Uh-oh, you're chalked! |
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flvegan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-17-10 12:05 AM Response to Reply #148 |
149. It's all good. n/t |
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Bonobo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-17-10 12:10 AM Response to Reply #149 |
150. Ouch. Touche! nt |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-18-10 11:21 PM Response to Reply #109 |
272. Happily, the crowd were amazingly intelligent -- controlled -- |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-18-10 11:19 PM Response to Reply #94 |
271. Right -- the cop will probably get a promotion -- !!! |
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Prometheus Bound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-16-10 11:04 PM Response to Original message |
96. Please don't lock this thread. It's hilarious! |
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Randomthought (388 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-16-10 11:09 PM Response to Original message |
99. Cops always fear for their safety |
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proteus_lives (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-16-10 11:39 PM Response to Reply #99 |
123. "Cops are cowards" |
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Bonobo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-16-10 11:41 PM Response to Reply #123 |
126. You have to be tough to be allowed to criticize people in your world? |
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proteus_lives (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-16-10 11:45 PM Response to Reply #126 |
128. No but come one, that statement was ridiculous. |
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Bonobo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-16-10 11:48 PM Response to Reply #128 |
133. Well... |
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proteus_lives (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-16-10 11:55 PM Response to Reply #133 |
140. "But you're on probation, bub." |
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CLANG (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-17-10 12:24 AM Response to Reply #123 |
152. Some people live in a dream world. |
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Bonobo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-17-10 12:32 AM Response to Reply #152 |
155. Some people live in the hellish world of their own making. nt |
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MadMaddie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-17-10 12:03 AM Response to Reply #99 |
147. Then I suggest you go on a ride along with your local cops |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-18-10 11:22 PM Response to Reply #99 |
273. We're militarizing them -- "We had to burn the village to save it!" -- |
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proteus_lives (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-16-10 11:40 PM Response to Original message |
125. Those two women belong in jail. |
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Prometheus Bound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-17-10 12:01 AM Response to Original message |
144. Auditors have cited concerns with Seattle police jaywalking stops |
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Bonobo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-17-10 12:02 AM Response to Reply #144 |
146. It is obvious, There is something called "proportionate response". |
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CLANG (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-17-10 12:25 AM Response to Reply #146 |
153. You are apparently swimming in the stuff. |
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alp227 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-17-10 01:10 AM Response to Reply #144 |
157. This earlier Seattle Times article reported the same thing |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-18-10 11:26 PM Response to Reply #157 |
275. Again, easy way to fill the jails . . . . and has anyone noticed that a large |
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FailureToCommunicate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-17-10 08:39 PM Response to Reply #144 |
205. Jaywalking, and escalating to more serious charges, because of police focus |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-18-10 11:27 PM Response to Reply #205 |
276. Interesting insights into what is happening there -- |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-18-10 11:24 PM Response to Reply #144 |
274. Same as stopping "illegals" in Arizona ... |
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boppers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-17-10 12:28 AM Response to Original message |
154. A history of resisting arrest, and a history of assaulting on officer? |
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S_B_Jackson (564 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-17-10 07:37 AM Response to Original message |
163. Perhaps, if the one had identified herself when asked, so the officer could complete her citation... |
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pipoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-17-10 08:16 AM Response to Original message |
167. Punching her in the face |
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Bonobo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-17-10 08:21 AM Response to Reply #167 |
168. Want some cheese with your whine? nt |
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pipoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-17-10 08:27 AM Response to Reply #168 |
169. The only whining in this thread |
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JoeyT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-17-10 10:31 AM Response to Original message |
175. Well being arrested isn't supposed to be fun. |
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demoleft (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-17-10 01:24 PM Response to Reply #175 |
180. indeed. but what intrigues me is the italian-like outcome: "back to training, though u're right" |
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JoeyT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-17-10 03:40 PM Response to Reply #180 |
185. Yeah, that actually kind of surprised me. |
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pipoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-18-10 12:21 AM Response to Reply #180 |
211. I believe the answer is |
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MrSlayer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-17-10 04:29 PM Response to Original message |
191. Pathetic. She's lucky he didn't break out the nightstick on her dumb ass. |
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DiverDave (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-17-10 04:58 PM Response to Reply #191 |
193. Nope, he did fine |
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HiFructosePronSyrup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-17-10 05:33 PM Response to Original message |
195. Video clearly shows her assaulting a police officer. |
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Prometheus Bound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-18-10 01:48 AM Response to Original message |
215. "we do have a number of concerns about the tactics the officer used" (acting deputy police chief ) |
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panzerfaust (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-18-10 05:31 AM Response to Original message |
218. Transferred toTRAINING unit? |
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hayu_lol (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-18-10 01:01 PM Response to Reply #218 |
223. The officer shown actually showed lots of restraint in... |
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HiFructosePronSyrup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-18-10 01:05 PM Response to Reply #223 |
224. I think he erred on not being aggressive enough, actually. |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-18-10 11:31 PM Response to Reply #223 |
277. Ask yourself, why would anyone be arrested for jaywalking . . . |
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pipoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-19-10 12:08 AM Response to Reply #277 |
279. We can only speculate |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-19-10 12:32 AM Response to Reply #279 |
280. Right . . . it's what Arizona is hoping for ... and it's what Mayor Guiliani did . . . |
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pipoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-19-10 12:51 AM Response to Reply #280 |
281. Well... |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-19-10 06:40 PM Response to Reply #281 |
288. Where can police officers get away with abusing civil rights may be the more |
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pipoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-19-10 08:27 PM Response to Reply #288 |
289. I spent the better part of 20 years |
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Bonobo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-20-10 02:58 AM Response to Reply #289 |
291. Fish swim in water. Yet they have no idea what water is. |
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pipoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-20-10 06:34 AM Response to Reply #291 |
293. You never did tell me |
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Bonobo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-20-10 07:19 AM Response to Reply #293 |
295. The problem is in your definition of attack. |
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pipoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-20-10 07:42 AM Response to Reply #295 |
296. How much force is that? |
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Bonobo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-20-10 07:50 AM Response to Reply #296 |
297. The frog comment is a response to your claim of experience. |
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pipoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-20-10 07:19 PM Response to Reply #297 |
303. And my response and experience is based on reality. |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-20-10 11:47 AM Response to Reply #293 |
301. "a person will get their ass kicked for peaceful defiance of police".... |
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pipoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-20-10 07:26 PM Response to Reply #301 |
304. ... |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-20-10 11:36 AM Response to Reply #289 |
300. "Because they are spoled brats, morons, hate police" . . . |
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JH19059 (37 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-18-10 01:46 PM Response to Original message |
225. Hmmm? |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-18-10 05:41 PM Response to Original message |
241. Deleted message |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-18-10 11:35 PM Response to Reply #242 |
278. Exactly . . . . they're quite sure this will never happen to them -- until it does... |
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SDuderstadt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-20-10 09:53 AM Response to Reply #242 |
299. So, if I believe that... |
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pipoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-19-10 06:48 AM Response to Reply #241 |
283. I'll ask you the same question I asked above.. |
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DiverDave (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-19-10 01:12 PM Response to Reply #283 |
284. They wont reply, except |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-19-10 05:46 PM Response to Reply #241 |
287. Deleted message |
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HardWorkingDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-22-10 11:19 AM Response to Reply #241 |
312. So much for the "new" DU.... |
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superconnected (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-21-10 11:27 AM Response to Original message |
306. Why were the teens attacking the cop anyway? I'd like to hear what the Clemmons sisters have to say |
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Supply Side Jesus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-21-10 07:41 PM Response to Original message |
307. Tase next time.... |
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HardWorkingDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-22-10 11:31 AM Response to Original message |
314. I find it odd how a thread of sexism is being missed here... |
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Mickeyc1004 (126 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-22-10 09:51 PM Response to Original message |
317. This was only a jay walking ticket. He could have just given a warning. |
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S_B_Jackson (564 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-22-10 10:08 PM Response to Reply #317 |
319. She refused to identify herself. How is he supposed to do that? |
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Mickeyc1004 (126 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-22-10 10:16 PM Response to Reply #319 |
320. This was jaywalking, this was not a licensed driver. |
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S_B_Jackson (564 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-23-10 04:07 AM Response to Reply #320 |
322. Same difference. The officer was attempting to write her a citation... |
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Mickeyc1004 (126 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-24-10 01:35 PM Response to Reply #322 |
324. It is absolutely not the same. |
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Mickeyc1004 (126 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-22-10 10:02 PM Response to Original message |
318. Also, I just wanted to say. |
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U4ikLefty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-22-10 10:24 PM Response to Original message |
321. Train em' to set up with the jab? |
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superconnected (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-24-10 01:44 PM Response to Original message |
326. Here's one thing I learned from this - an effort to figure out how to put my cell phone in video |
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