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minkyboodle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-27-04 12:31 AM
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Loud Explosions and Gunfire heard in Central Bagdad
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Sugarbleus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-27-04 12:33 AM
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1. Seems like the TV has been showing less and less coverage of
these disturbances in Iraq lately....thanks for the link
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Moonbeam_Starlight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-27-04 12:36 AM
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2. Did you notice this?
"The Marine's death took to 400 the number of U.S. troops killed by hostile action since the start of the war last March to oust Saddam."

What, now we're only counting deaths by hostile action???

How many more have to die?



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minkyboodle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-27-04 12:38 AM
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3. it seems
that every different article has a different number of dead listed these days. I have decided to go by the lunaville one and hope to god that there aren't more that I don't know about. Its unbelievably tragic.
Scott
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Gloria Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-27-04 01:00 AM
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7. Funny, I heard a BBC World Servicereport today or yesterday saying 400....
it woke me up!
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Minstrel Boy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-27-04 01:13 AM
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9. How is it that they ALL start singing from the same songbook?
This numbers game is maddening and dishonours the dead. It's only because we pay attention that we're on to them.
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UpInArms Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-27-04 02:10 AM
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12. the NYT has an accurate count tonight
http://www.nytimes.com/2004/03/27/international/middleeast/27LIST.html?ex=1080968400&?en=a768ac36fdb29b5a&?ei=5062&?partner=GOOGLE

The Department of Defense has identified 589 American service members who have died since the start of the Iraq war. It confirmed the death of the following Americans yesterday:

BURGESS, Jeffrey C., 20, Lance Cpl., Marines; Plymouth, Mass., Wing Support Squadron 373, Wing Support Group 37, Third Aircraft Wing, First Expeditionary Force.

I count one more from today (Friday) so it should be 590
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oasis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-27-04 03:20 AM
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14. McLaughlin reported that there were over 14,000 wounded evacuees
from Iraq and the Pentagon has refused to put out wounded figures for the last three months.

Tonight's "McLaughlin Group" on PBS. Check local listing for replay.
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theHandpuppet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-27-04 06:14 AM
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18. Credit "The Today Show"...
... for reporting the accurate number of dead. I noticed this just a couple of days ago. At least they aren't getting creative with the numbers, like some other so-called "news" programs.
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lebkuchen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-27-04 05:41 AM
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15. When I write letters to papers, I cite the coalition force casualty count
as well as Iraqi civilian casualties. Each fatality, no matter from which country, is one more unnecessary death resulting in Bush's preemptive flight of fancy.
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NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-27-04 12:44 AM
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4. Its probably just some enthusiastic celebratory gunfire?
Yea. Thats the ticket.

Don

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yardwork Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-27-04 12:46 AM
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5. Right! They're celebrating their freedom!
Uh-huh.
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minkyboodle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-27-04 12:55 AM
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6. Update
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dArKeR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-27-04 01:06 AM
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8. I didn't hear Kerry mention Dennis' name at the Unity Party. Why?
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jmatthan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-27-04 01:32 AM
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10. Dennis did not attend for his reasons
When he was interviewed by Amy Goodman, Dennis said what he had to say. He is still in the race for the President so as to show Kerry where the Democratic party should stand on issues of withdrawal from Iraq, health, trade, etc where he defers from Kerry.

He said that he continues to be in the race to focus on the issues that he has raised. He is not quitting just because he cannot win. He is there for a purpose and he clearly articulated that purpose. So obviously he was not going to attend a party which wants to crown Kerry as king when he is still in the race!!!

Correctly put, Dennis is the Democratic party's antidote for Nader. Kerry should listen and understand what Dennis is bringing to the agenda.

That is what I particularly like about Dennis - he stays the full course with his beliefs.

Jacob Matthan
http://www.findians.com/educated.html
Oulu, Finland

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tlcandie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-27-04 02:04 AM
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11. A compass for us to find our way....out of this hell we've created
if only the people could really see and hear it could be more than a dream.
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Voltaire99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-27-04 02:21 AM
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13. Kucinich is not "the party's antidote for Nader"
Dennis is a great man. Better, probably, than his diluted and bereft party deserves.

It's a mistake, however, to frame him as the Dems's "antidote to Nader," as if Dennis can cure progressives of their Nader habit--or as if he is some kind of magnet that can pull disillusioned idealists back into the camp.

Nader and Dennis are quite similar on the issues, but philosophically they're miles apart. Most importantly, Dennis doesn't follow Nader's critique of our two parties as a corrupt duopoly. Dennis thinks it's still possible to change the party, to work reform from within.

Is it? Maybe for the length of a campaign, in speeches, although the corporate media have given him little coverage and even less respect. And it's Dennis who's soon going to cave and endorse Kerry, despite holding views diametrically opposed to those of the nominee.

And it's Dennis who's going to see nearly his entire platform ignored in this next election.

At its best, this is bold, defiant principle. At worst, it's a kind of self-imposed ineffectuality. It arises from a refusal to look hard enough at how broken the system is. And it arguably can do mischief: by encouraging belief in reform when you ultimately plan to tell people to accept its opposite, Dennis provides idealists with a kind of false hope--a shibboleth of change, fated to end in acquiescence. And that's a tragedy.
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fishnfla Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-27-04 06:10 AM
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16. can you explain to me what this has to do with roadside bombs in Iraq?
Why do you hacks alway jack serious threads with political bullshit?
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theHandpuppet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-27-04 06:17 AM
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19. Very well said, Voltaire
You've articulated my own feelings as well so I'll just thank you for the post.
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fishnfla Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-27-04 06:11 AM
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17. dupe
Edited on Sat Mar-27-04 06:12 AM by fishnfla
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m-jean03 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-27-04 12:03 PM
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20. Bring EM ON, sniggered the AWOL chimpanzee --
And bring it on, the resistance did.
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