Alvin Greene indicted on felony obscenity charge

[mike r]

Source: Associated Press

Longshot U.S. Senate candidate Alvin Greene has been indicted on a felony charge of showing pornography to a South Carolina college student.

Court records show a grand jury in Richland County handed down the indictment Friday for disseminating, procuring or promoting obscenity. The Democratic nominee was also indicted on a misdemeanor charge of communicating obscene materials to a person without consent.

Greene was arrested in November after authorities say he approached a student in a University of South Carolina computer lab, showed her obscene photos online, then talked about going to her dorm room.

Greene has not entered a plea and has refused to talk about the accusations in interviews.



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[IndianaGreen]

1. Alvin Greene became the nominee through black box voting

Now it is coming home to haunt us all.

[LaPera]

29. Absolutely, expect much more from the EASILY hackable electronic voting machines by republicans.

in the upcoming November elections.

Democrats have had their heads up their asses for years and don't want to see nor admit to the obvious!

There is absolutely no denying that Karl Rove & republicans will steal many house seats around the country, via easily hackable electronic voting machines....Rove knows in order to steal the race all they have to do is keep it close....the republican at the top know they have already have the house in 2011 with the help of stolen elections,

The republicans will keep the charade going to the end, they have only gotten better at it through the years....but once a race is stolen it's impossible to get it reversed. Republicans will scream sour-grapes, and "no way it was fair' and not many will listen nor care , especially not the mainstream media who as always will absolutely ignore the obvious discrepancies and voting manipulations....So basically the republicans can blatantly get caught and still put the stolen seats in republicans hands and NOTHING will happen to them and nothing can stop them - Rove knows this very, very well - Count on it it happening as sure as you are about anything.

[Dogmudgeon]

2. Tacky beyond belief, but is it felonious?

SHOWING porn?

Looks like they want Mr. Greene to go away in the worst way.

--d!

[catgirl]

11. It was without her consent

So, what next? I wonder if we can find a candidate. While we probably don't stand a chance, it
would force the rethugs to spend money.

[Ter]

48. Since when do you need consent to show a naked picture to an adult?

Don't get me wrong, if it's done at work, fire him. If done at school, suspend him. But arrest and charge him? That's what's wrong with this country.

[Downwinder]

14. It is OK for SCOTUS Judges.

[valerief]

34. Ah, yes, Anita Hill. nt

[dencol]

21. I agree. It makes you wonder if women flashing people

Is now a felony. Or mooning people for that matter. Of course, it is stupid stuff and even more creepy when somebody shows you something inappropriate, but I don't see why it would be a felony!

[SCantiGOP]

22. twice wrong

this is a Republican Attorney General indicting him; certainly he would not want to clear the way for another Democrat to be on the ticket. And showing the pornography was a misdemeanor; the felony was putting it on a public computer.

[KurtNYC]

30. What about Glenn Beck: "communicating obscene materials to a person without consent."

?? Hatred, racism, ignorance and arrogance -- that's fairly obscene.

Or Fox News in general for "communicating obscene materials to a person without consent"

[Renew Deal]

3. We're in trouble in SC now.

:silly:

[onehandle]

15. Don't say that! We've still got a chance!

:crazy: :crazy: :crazy:

[Downwinder]

19. Things must be bad in S.C., if this is what it takes to get a Repuke elected.

[EFerrari]

28. SC has 100% touchscreen voting which is explicitly illegal

per their state constitution. It specifies very clearly that all votes must be counted in public.

[valerief]

35. I wonder if elections all go unchallenged despite that fact. nt

[BootinUp]

32. LOL nt

[cosmicone]

47. Go hiking on the Appalachian trail anyone? n/t

[Bitwit1234]

4. What I can't understand

IS how come the Democratic Party in SC let him register to run. THESE CHARGES according to all the reports were pending BEFORE he ran. Was the republican party so in control, and so afraid that DeMint would loose they would have to manufacture this candidate and make sure he won over Rawls.

[seattleblue]

7. The Democratic party had no power to stop him from running.

If you meet the ballot requirements (ballot fee, signature requirements or whatever your state requires) anyone can run. The party has nothing to do with it.

[jobycom]

9. You really want the party deciding which candidates they allow to run?

Seems like a dangerous precedence.

[SCantiGOP]

23. innocent until proven guilty

Even if they had known(which I agree they should have) they couldn't have kept him off the ballot.

[Stevepol]

39. Yes. Evidently they were.

[Bitwit1234]

5. One other question. He can't run so what will happen

[seattleblue]

6. He legally can run. He hasn't been convicted of anything.

[LisaL]

51. Even a convicted felon can run.

There is no law that says someone convicted of a felony can not run for US senate.

[seattleblue]

54. True. A candidate can be stopped from running for a state office with a felony

depending on the state but not a federal office.

[closeupready]

8. How old was the college student?

And if the community has internet connections, how can anything Greene showed her be anything worse than stuff online?

[sinkingfeeling]

18. She was 19 back in June.

[peaches2003]

10. Where is the investigation

by the Dems as to how he got the money to file to run? This is insane. There has to be pressure that can be applied to get the idiot to withdraw. Why did the Dems just go along with this?

[SCantiGOP]

24. there was an investigation

into where he got the money; it was unemployment checks, military pension and an income tax refund. And, the Chair of the State party has called as strongly as she could for him to step down.

[jobycom]

12. I don't care about Greene one way or the other, but does this charge make sense to anyone?

Obscenity? They aren't saying it's child pornography, so what the heck was illegal? It seems like if he was forcing it on the student, it would be some charge related to violating her rights, not "disseminating, procuring, or promoting obscenity."

[JJW]

13. Clearence Thomas

Perhaps Justice CT is his role model?

[Loudmxr]

16. I kinda expected they would wait until the 15th. Sure enough Monday is the 16th.

That leaves two weeks until Labor Day to scramble to find someone else. Just enough wrench to screw things up but not enough to get blamed for. Brilliant!

[sinkingfeeling]

17. Wow, only in the South would this ever be an issue. 'Obscenity' is mostly in the eye of the beholder

and is rarely prosecuted in today's world. Here's an article from TPM back in June, entitled "Expert: Obscenity Charge Brought Against Alvin Greene Extremely Rare".

http://tpmmuckraker.talkingpointsmemo.com/2010/06/alvin_greene_felony_obscenity_charge.php

[Kweli4Real]

20. No, you don't understand ...

This is a BLACK man showing "obscenity" to a White woman. That equals a felony, if not a capital offense, in most places in the south and some in the north too.

[LostinVA]

26. He approached her, showed her porn, and then said he would visit her dorm room later

How is what he did not wrong?

[provis99]

27. it may be bad manners, but not a felony worthy of over a year in prison.

I agree with the above poster: its a case of a black man in the South showing a white girl porn and asking for some action.

[Tx4obama]

33. He didn't really approach her...

She was sitting at the computer next to his.
And it really wasn't porn - it was a photo of a naked man and woman.
It has not been proven that the photo was porn.
And he didn't say he was going to show up at her dorm room,
he 'allegedly' asked if wanted to go to her dorm room.

So, basically he was sitting at HIS computer, she looked at his screen, and she freaked out.

In a fox news interview the woman admitted that she couldn't describe the photo on Greene's computer screen because she said that she 'really hadn't looked very closely at it'.

[LisaL]

36. She was in a student computer lab. Greene is not a student.

So what was he (allegedly)doing there in the first place?

[Tx4obama]

42. He was there using the computer just like he did all the years he was a student there himself.

It's the same university that he attended and graduated from.
Alums of a college do go back to visit the campus once they graduate.
Perhaps he stopped in to talk to a former professor and decided to stop into the computer lab to check his e-mail.

People in America are innocent until proven guilty.
We have not heard his side of the story as of yet.

[LostinVA]

37. Yes, he did

He sat down next to her, chatted her up, asked her to look at his screen, and it showed sexual images that amide her uncomfortable. She told him this, then he asked to come to her dorm room.

This was a pattern: he was trespassing in a computer lab in a dorm, where he wasn't supposed to eb, using an invalid student ID card. He was told not to come back, but he did.

I don't get why this guy's actions are being defended.

[Tx4obama]

43. How do you know who sat down first?

That fact has not been proven in a court of law as of yet.
No one has said who was sitting at the computer before the other.
And no one has proven that there was a 'sexual' photo.
The woman said that there was a photo of a 'naked man and woman' and she said that she could not describe the photo because she hadn't looked at it very closely.
No one has proven the photo was of a 'sexual' nature.

[LisaL]

44. What would Green be (allegedly) doing at the computer?

Do you not get that he isn't a student and thus had no business (allegedly) hanging around student computer lab?

[Tx4obama]

45. Greene does not own a computer at home...

So it isn't far fetched that he'd use his old computer lab id card to go to the university to use a computer.

The fact remains, Greene is innocent until proven guilty in a court of law.

[LostinVA]

55. Not a computer lab IN A DORM, which he was told to stay away from

Every public library has computers for use.

Your making excuses for him, even those that go against the evidence, is perplexing.

[LostinVA]

50. Because the victim said so, and because the guy was trespassing

And had done it before.

[herbm]

25. Not good but hardly a felony. He must have a scintilla of a chance of winning for this to hit now.

[MellowDem]

31. Scummy, creepy behavior to say the least...

but you see that in college any time you go to a bar, unfortunately. Just without the porn. Well, sometimes. Not worthy of a felony charge.

[activa8tr]

38. The most OBVIOUS QUESTION, which maybe you guys have already...

answered elsewhere: How did this guy get selected by voters?

Is there an investigation of this going on?

I'm sorry, I don't live there, and haven't kept up with any news ... can someone bring me up to date on any investigations into this primary election mess?

[Stevepol]

40. He got selected because some Repug rigged the voting machines.

It could have happened any number of ways. But it's "trivially easy" to manipulate these machines, to use Steven Freeman's phrase.

As for why he ran, he was put up to it by somebody who agreed to give him the money or to pay his bills or something. If Greene were serious and had used his own money as he claims w/o knowing that he would be amply reimbursed by his benefactor, he would certainly have campaigned. He didn't campaign at all. Didn't have any signs or anything else. He is barely literate and has the charisma of a turnip.

It was clearly a con job on the part of some Repug or group of Repugs so DeMint wouldn't have to face the other Dem who had a pretty good war chest and had done a little campaigning (but not much since nobody knew anything about Greene and the race was rightly considered a shoo-in). DeMint cd easily have lost the race.

Whether or not Greene was indicted is irrelevant. His chances of winning the election were less than the chance that a snowball would survive in hell.

[roxiejules]

41. Sounds like he was stalking her....

Susan McCoy claims that Greene had already been told once by USC authorities that he was not allowed on parts of campus. "He had no business being there," she told Mother Jones. The incident was captured on a campus video surveillance camera.

McCoy had been working in a computer lab in a restricted part of campus when Greene approached her and showed her Internet pornography, according to the student’s mother, Susan McCoy. Camille recounted what happened afterward to the AP: "It was very disgusting. He said, 'Let's go to your room now.' It was kind of scary. He's a pretty big boy. He could've overpowered me."

She asked him to leave and he didn't....

[zogofzorkon]

53. Yup "he's a pretty big boy" and thats the real McCoy .

The man is 32 years old.

[LostinVA]

56. So what?

That isn't an unusual term to use for someone. I don't get it.

[Doctor_J]

46. This is probably a test case for vote fraud

Look for a lot of "darkhorse" Dem candidates to win primaries and then be found out as felons/perverts/non-citizens after it's too late.

[No Elephants]

59. What have Democrats in D.C. been doing about fraud in federal elections?

Have they even forced D.C. Republicans to show their pro-fraud colors?

[demigoddess]

49. i figured the guy was a republican under false colors

this shows I may be right. And they wanted a compliant person with something in the closet to hide. perfect choice.

[MarkInSavannah]

52. Not much to say here except:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0VTfVawW9TQ&feature=av2n

Explains it all.

[robcon]

57. This guy is an embarrassment.

n/t

[24601]

58. Sounds like a seasoned politician.... n/t