NBC News: Philip Markoff found dead

[Politics_Guy25]

Source: MSNBC/NBC News

NBC: Accused 'Craigslist killer' found dead in jail cell
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BOSTON — A former Boston University medical student accused of killing a masseuse he found through Craigslist was found dead in his jail cell, NBC News reported.

Suffolk County Sheriff's Office told NBC News that Philip Markoff, 24, had committed suicide. His body was discovered in his cell at the Nashua Street Jail Sunday.

In April 2009, Markoff pleaded not guilty to fatally shooting Julissa Brisman of New York and robbing a Las Vegas woman. Both occurred in Boston hotels.

He had been scheduled to stand trial this spring.


Read more: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/38713628/ns/us_news-crime_and_courts

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NBC News has just learned that the accused Craigslist Killer, Philip Markoff, has been found dead in his jail cell.

That's all we know right now. I will update with articles as they become available.

The guilt became too much for this murderer perhaps?

This is literally hot off the presses. An article has just been posted.

[Ian David]

1. See also:

http://tinyurl.com/CollegeRepublican

[Taverner]

2. Just like Ted Bundy (President of the UofW College Republicans)

[Politics_Guy25]

3. Yep-says something about the GOP doesn't it?-n/t

[Taverner]

4. Serial Killers are OVERWHELMINGLY Republican

The BTK Killer was a member of Focus on the Family and the Republican Party

Lee Malvo was a Republican after Desert Storm

And the list goes on...

[Name removed]

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[Akoto]

6. Since you can't debate the statistics, you just make snide remarks.

Why is it that you can't wait until November? Are you hoping the Republicans return, so that they can deny everything to the needy while upholding all the wants of the rich? Maybe they'll falsify some evidence so that you can have another quagmire of a war? Yeah, that's really something to look forward to. :eyes:

[SpiralHawk]

42. ...and maybe the republicons will ignore over 60 warnings again, and let another 9/11 happen

...on their watch.

But by now most honest Americans realize the real danger in letting republicon chickenhawks have 'responsibility' for national security...

[activa8tr]

7. Well, we could have Newt Gingrich in a couple of years, I'm sure some posters like

you would like that a lot!!!

I find any man that would divorce his wife while seeing a new woman kind of creepy.
But Newt didn't do that just once, he did it twice! And he's a "family values" guy, who railed on about Clinton, (who is still married to his first wife).

If you don't like the innuendo and genuine curiosity we have about these men, and their choice of political party, fine. But we know that Republicans don't live up to their ideals, while they try to shove disgust at Democrats, (like you are doing) down our throats.

From the link about Markoff

"At college, he was a member of the College Republicans and was fairly unremarkable except for the occasional offensive comment, said ex-classmate Joe Coe.

"He was someone that had issues with people of color, had issues with women," Coe told CBS.



Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/news/ny_crime/2009/04/22/2009-04-22_smart_cleancut_kid_markoff_creepy_vibe.html#ixzz0whVBluWG"

[northernlights]

31. aw, c'mon, give Newt a break...

wasn't his first wife in the hospital with cancer when he dumped her? Poor little lizard prolly wasn't getting any...geez :eyes:

[activa8tr]

36. Yeah, one of his wives had Cancer when he dumped her. Poor white guy wasn't

getting it. So he moved on to fresh ..... I won't say it.

[Taverner]

9. Pizza time, healthpellets?

Pepperoni or with extra CRAZY? :crazy:

[Taverner]

11. BTW...name one Serial Killer who was a Democrat

Betchya can't...

[healthpellets]

12. John Wayne Gacy ... anything else?

don't you think party affiliation is pretty irrelevant as to becoming a serial killer?

[Taverner]

13. Point taken

Seriously though - at the Libertarian core, which is "me first, fuck the rest" its easy to see why it appeals to sociopaths.

If you don't believe that is the core of Conservatism, read some Ayn Rand.

Speaking of which, she had a huge crush on a Serial Killer - considered him to be a 'Galt among men.'

So much for republican 'values'

[healthpellets]

14. i think you miss the core of libertarianism, which is "first, do no harm"

that's the basis, the rest is an outflow from that core principle.

but yes, i can see an argument that libertarianism attracts people that view themselves as individuals and non conformists.

and FTR, rand hated libertarians.

[Taverner]

15. Ayn Rand and Conservatism have NO PROBLEM causing harm

Why else would you guys want tax cuts at time when our government has such a deficit?

Either you guys don't really care about the deficit, or you're so greedy that you don't care if your tax cut bankrupts the nation

[Taverner]

16. And let me add a few other ways Conservatism does harm

- Keeping health care from 40K people
- Underfunding schools
- Underfunding infrastructure projects
- The Death Penalty
- Loosening Safety laws over food and drugs
- Endless wars

Tell me how those things don't cause harm?

[healthpellets]

19. why are you asking me to defend conservatism?

there are so few real conservatives in Congress that's it's pretty much worthless to even discuss. and i don't think there are many true liberals either.

we shouldn't be funding schools at the federal level in the first place; so underfunding is a non issue.

i don't think true conservatives are keeping healthcare from anyone. how so?

death penalty should be a state-by-state issue. if the people of that state wish to impose it, so be it. but it shouldn't be sanctioned by the federal government.

the FDA's unreasonable delays hurts more people than it "protects". we have lawyers and a civil justice system to hold corporations responsible for harm they do to citizens.

we need no more wars. no more interventionist mentality.

[Taverner]

45. "there are so few real conservatives in Congress" - HUH????

Hell, half of the DEMOCRATS are conservative!

Then the Republicans - which are ALL conservative

[northernlights]

33. 40M people, Taverner. 40M people.....nt

[healthpellets]

38. doesn't matter how many people

the federal government has no business getting involved in healthcare. you'll find nothing in the constitution about providing HC for the masses.

[activa8tr]

40. Are you saying these things seriously or just to get attention? You DO REALIZE

that you are at the Democratic Underground.

If you want attention when you are alone on a Sunday afternoon, I suggest you take a walk in a park.... oh wait, the Constitution said NOTHING ABOUT ESTABLISHING PARKS, either!



You DO realize "provide for the general welfare" is out there in that document, right?

In my world, "providing for the general welfare" means being able to take a walk in a public park, or wherever and NOT catching several untreated deadly diseases from my fellow Americans.

[Taverner]

48. Me thinks a Tombstone is on the way...

[activa8tr]

55. I don't think there's really any offense, just a lot of mis-understanding and factual errors.

No need to kick someone out for being ignorant of the facts.

[Taverner]

69. Perhaps - perhaps not

If said poster would behave as he has been (e.g. using sources to prove their point - despite the Heritage and other refs) then we could use some internal fact checking.

But if said poster wants to destroy DU as we know it - well - can't let that happen.

Cheers All!

:cheers:

[northernlights]

41. doesn't matter whether it's specified in the constitution

it's a societal issue that needs addressing. Basic healthcare is important to a fully functioning, healthy society. In certain situations, it becomes important to the survival of a country.

What would you say if a highly infectious disease was ravaging the world, killing by the hundreds of millions...or even billions? Sporadic, individual responses would do nothing to stop it. Whereas a coordinated, universal response could stop it in its tracks. In fact, we've already been there and proven it.

[Taverner]

47. He'd probably say the sick folks are just faking it

And they should get off their lazy butts and work for peanuts so he can add a new wing to his estate

[northernlights]

61. until he was dying himself...

Smallpox killed as many as half a billion people in the 20th century, and it didn't care whether they were rich or poor. "The earliest physical evidence of smallpox is likely the pustular rash on the mummified body of Pharaoh Ramses V of Egypt, who died in 1157 BC. During the 18th century the disease killed an estimated 400,000 Europeans per year (including five reigning monarchs)." http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smallpoxhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smallpox

It was *GOVERNMENT INTERVENTION* (really cooperation of multiple 1st world governments) that eradicated smallpox. It is likewise due to GOVERNMENT INTERVENTION that is close to eliminating polio and other scourges.

As with Fannie and Freddie, "public-private" hybrids are a mess. Certain things *need* to be public. Healthcare is one of them. Private interests seeking monetary gain waste precious resources on viagra so old men can get it up and they can make billions. Both human and animal health are *public* concerns.

A sick and weak population is a vulnerable population. Really, it's a matter of national security.

A healthy population is a productive and useful population. Really, it's a matter of economic well-being.

[Taverner]

46. "Life, Liberty and the Pursuit of Happiness"

Or should I go with "In order to form a more perfect union"?

It's all there

[corpseratemedia]

62. yes, those countries that are the most stable and prosperous

have a federal government heavily involved with regulating HC and making sure HC is accessible

you may want to re-read the purpose of Democratic Underground and smear your pellets elsewhere

[blm]

67. nothing in the constitution about lining defense industry's bank accounts with most of our treasure.

.

[Taverner]

49. Sorry, 40 MILLION

Best to expunge passion before typing

[healthpellets]

17. i'll assume you're pretty familiar with the conservative's reasons for cutting taxes and i won't

recite them. but i'm not sure why you would lump me in with "you guys" that want to cut taxes.

you can make the argument that tax cuts stimulate economic recovery, or you can make the argument that tax cuts harm the country as a whole.

i think a much more reasonable solution would be to both cut taxes and drastically cut spending. let's cut taxes for everyone, and let's cut defense spending by 50%. once we cut spending, we need less income for the federal government to operate, so we reasonably lessen the tax burden on american citizens.

[Taverner]

18. Oh I know the REAL reason

You want more money, at the cost of everybody else

[healthpellets]

20. so you don't want to cut spending?

if we cut spending, why could we not cut taxes a proportionate amount?

[Froward69]

26. So whats wrong with cutting spending

A La Defense department. (warmonger welfare) and end corporate welfare. let Oil, Pharmaceuticals and Wall street pay their regular Taxes instead of all their breaks and loopholes.


then allow a surplus to exist, keeping revenue flowing in of course. (like Bill Clinton tried to start). with a budgetary surplus the deficit would reduce over time would it not?

seems conservatives could figure this stuff out. but not without help and reduction in republican obstructionism.

[healthpellets]

32. it seems we agree

we agree on cutting defense spending and ending corporate welfare. although i'm sure you realize that the cost of gas, etc will increase when those taxes are passed on to you, the consumer. but in the end, yes, ending corporate welfare in all forms (including never again doing something like TARP) is beneficial for the country.

why does the federal government need a surplus? instead of just stashing money for no good reason, why not refund the money that people paid in the form of tax cuts?

you can still pay off the deficit (which, btw, would be so much less if we didn't have the federal reserve charging us to use our own money) by cutting spending and reducing taxes.

there's no need to cut taxes to the point where we have break even spending/income. but there's no need to run a trillion dollar surplus every year when the money could be better reinvested in the country by the people that earned it.

[activa8tr]

43. Your post makes no sense. There is no such "surplus" and never has been

and there will NOT be a "surplus" for the next 50-100 years, given where we are, how much productivity as a nation we have for the GDP

If a nation has a GDP of 40-50 Trillion a year down from 60 trillion in the best of years, and has a multi-trillion dollar national debt, we have to figure out a way to pay off the debt fairly.

The Federal Reserve is NOT "charging us to use our own money", that's one of those false sound bite canards that libertarians come up with which has no basis in fact. If you own your own money, you are not "charged" to use your own money. If you don't use it, you get interest on it unless you hide it under a mattress. If you have lots of money, you hire people to manage it for you to get the most interest by LOANING it out to others.

It is ONLY when you BORROW money, (not yours) that you pay for the use of the money, (not your own money, money that belongs to someone else) currently you and the bank you borrow it from are charged 0.5% ...the banks charge the rest. The Federal Reserve is not "sitting on money in a mattress", it is loaning it out to banks, car makers, states, businesses people in need of more money because they don't have enough. For that, they are charging 0.5% interest. They used to charge 6% AND 4% AND 5% ... IN GOOD ECONOMIC TIMES... NO ONE COMPLAINED THEN.

[ProudDad]

77. You need to read up...

Or at least watch the movie...

Money as Debt: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vVkFb26u9g8

Read the true story here:
http://www.webofdebt.com/

I'm definitely NOT a libertarian -- I'm an Anarcho-Syndicalist/Socialist who happens to study the issues.

There would be an IMMEDIATE surplus by cutting the war budget to a rational 10-20% of what it is currently, using a large amount of that money to create "jobs" building things that PEOPLE NEED and returning the rest to the population.

The radical in me wouldn't mind the government telling the rich fucks who "hold" all of that debt to go pound sand and then convert to a steady state economy to support human needs. http://steadystate.org/

The current capitalist Ponzi-scheme laughingly called an "economy" cannot be called anything but end-stage capitalism -- the final death throes of the cancer cell that it is...

You see, the end-stage capitalism that's being defended is not only NOT "the only way to do things" but it's deadly to Mother Earth and most of the creatures that live upon her...

On edit: Case in point:
Mankind is using up global resources faster than ever
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=102x4505236
And it's the capitalist Ponzi scheme that's financing it all...

[Taverner]

54. Keynesian Econ would suggest we stockpile the surplus

For days like we are facing now

Clinton tried to do that - too bad his successor was a spendfree maniac

[Taverner]

51. Local and State Governments are in serious peril

And without spending, the will start cutting essential services

Screw that!

Besides the rich pay almost nothing in taxes

[Taverner]

44. No I don't think we're spending enough at all

Except on Defense - we couldn't de-fund defense enough!

[activa8tr]

50. Ron Paul and Barney Frank have a plan to cut 1 Trillion from Defense

in the next 10 years. Yes, Ron Paul and Barney Frank.

Republicans and Libertarians seem to love it. I think Obama is silent on this..but I'm sure he knows about it.

[Taverner]

52. I would like to see the US stop being an empire

US Bases in the US only...

[ProudDad]

78. Let's see, the far-out lunatic "anti-war" fringe

in Congress would like to cut 7% of the war budget...

And we know that they probably will fail...

While Gates/Obama want to cut ZERO PERCENT of the war budget...

When what we NEED is a cut of AT LEAST 75% of this ugly, useless spending...

Big whoop!

[Born_A_Truman]

59. No, I'll recite it ...

The mentality is "I got mine=fuck you and everyone else!"

That's why I vote for Democrats!

[activa8tr]

24. It's important to note that these killers were NOT libertarians, and that there are

many different colors of libertarians, some who vote Republican, some who refuse to vote for anyone NOT Libertarian, they would rather SIT OUT ELECTIONS, some of them.

I have not heard Libertarians use that motto, "first, do no harm", I thought that was for doctors. But what do I know about libertarians? They are members of my family and they argue that Lincoln shouldn't have free'd the slaves and silly stuff like that.

[kestrel91316]

27. The core of libertarianism is "Get the fuck outta my way and stop interfering

with my unfettered right to pursue money above all else!"

[activa8tr]

22. OH, I'm sure there are a few, not in recent years, but way back when

Southern Democrats were members of the KKK.

I'm not about to ignore all Democrats who may have been just awful people.
I'm curious about why psychopaths are attracted to the politics under the Republican banner.
I think someone already touched on the "me first" aspect.

This is NOT PIZZA TIME, it's time for legitimate discussion of a REAL PHENOMENON.

[LostinVA]

23. Oh, this will be good

[northernlights]

29. why? so we can start a 3rd war in Iran?

Destroy social security to further line the pockets of the uber-wealthy?

[healthpellets]

35. who the hell in their right mind wants another war

hell, we can't / won't win the two we're involved in now. what's the point of starting another?

but it's scary that the man that walked in to the oval office claiming to believe in ending both of the current wars has changed that perspective drastically since coming to power. and still hasn't closed GTMO. that's disappointing.

we need no more wars. we need to stop spending money on stupid wars chasing a faceless enemy. as much as i hate spending money on anything, i'd at least rather spend that money at home.

[northernlights]

39. we need to end the wars, but we do need to spend money at home

*investing* in our future, though, not just mindless spending:

* There's a good reason for federal funding of education -- when poorer states can't afford to educate their children, the children get locked into poverty. Viscious cycle.

* Clean, renewable energy and energy conservation. We need to be putting solar on every south facing rooftop and small windmills in every yard with a breeze.

* End corporate welfare. The includes the financial industry. That includes big oil. That includes factory farms. That includes big pharma. That includes the insurance industry. Nuff said.

* Put Americans to work first. When everybody has a stake in the game and is paying their fair share for the overall infrastructure, everybody will do better.

[KamaAina]

30. Quick! Name a serial killer who was also an active Dem.

(crickets)

[healthpellets]

37. moving the finish line. nothing new, eh? n/t

nt

[malaise]

66. Many ReTHUGS will commit

suicide in November. They aren't winning shite.

[zappaman]

25. really?

please post any links to studies that support the assertion that "serial killers are OVERWHELMINGLY Republican".
two guys doesn't cut it.

[kestrel91316]

28. They allow Republicans in Venice?

[zappaman]

53. Probably since it is a free country

don't know any personally though.
just a bunch of dems like myself
are you implying that since I don't accept that serial killers are OVERWHELMINGLY Republican, that I must be a Republican?
too funny.
smear much?

[activa8tr]

34. The link above provided FOUR, but, then again, we also have

Wayne Gacey, who DID do some stuff with the local Dems in his area, while being a member of the local Chamber of Commerce, too.

He was a businessman, in a time when the lines between Dem and Rep in fly-over America were not clearly defined.

He didn't exactly go to college and join up, and his picture taken with Roselyn Carter.. .well, he wasn't exactly doing that for anything OTHER than his business.

[zappaman]

56. I think you would be hard pressed

to ascertain what party serial killers belonged to.
I doubt Henry Lee Lucas or Richard Ramirez or Juan Corona or any serial killer for that matter, actually cared that much about what party to join.

[activa8tr]

8. Ted Bundy didn't have Craigslist, he had a Volkswagen.

And he wasn't a med school student, he was a law school student. Nonetheless, the similarities demand we look at what's going on in the minds of some men, and have to ask honest questions if there is any relationship whatsoever between their ability to get away with their deadly deviant behavior and their political views, particularly when it comes to the treatment of women.

These are honest questions.

[Taverner]

10. It's because the Libertarian Philosophy at the heart of the GOP is 'me first'

Serial Killers like that, since the people they kill aren't human in their eyes

[activa8tr]

21. There is that "thin invisible grey line" between a legitimate libertarian who

thinks the government is simply too invasive into private lives, and the borderline personality disordered, between the mildly narcissistic personality, who puts his/her self-importance above others with benign consequences, (s/he gets richer at the expense of others, throws his/her opponents under the proverbial bus, etc., a relatively "minor" societal problem), E.G Newt Gingrich and his wives, and his opportunism.

Then we have the genuine psychopathic personality disorder who blames ALL OF THEM OUT THERE, (blacks, women, liberals, Jews, gays, etc) for his/her own problems in finding happiness in his/her own personal life, so thus strikes out in more deadly ways.

Republicanism is a BIG TENT, they accept any and all of the above.

[Taverner]

70. I'm not sure - they would capitulate to Hitler given the chance

See I.G. Farben and Martin Boorman - and then cross reference against then Sen. Prescott Bush.

[undeterred]

57. A tragedy all around.

[msanthrope]

58. No--the circle breaks at Markoff.

Seriously, it's not a tragedy he's dead.

[cosmicone]

64. It also started with Markoff and ends with Markoff but not his tragedy...

The real tragedy is of his victims.

Whatever Markoff did was self-inflicted despite having phenomenal breaks in life which he could have made into a success easily.

[LostinVA]

65. I would have liked to see him live the next 60 years in prison

[laureloak]

71. Obviously a bright and talented young man. I can't imagine

the pain his family has been through.

[undeterred]

72. I wonder why he did the crimes he was charged with.

He had everything going for him. Good looking med student engaged to be married. He apparently was robbing his victims because of his gambling debts. How does a medical student have time and stupidity to develop a serious secret gambling problem?

[laureloak]

73. Too much pressure? While fun, college is mostly stress.

College kids exist during the week on 4 hrs sleep a night. Exist on that level of exhaustion along with pressure to succeed and anything could happen.

Still it's frightening that he could have been so far out of control and nobody around him noticed anything amiss.

[undeterred]

74. He was in medical school, not college.

Med school is highly competitive and a constant grind. Taking a night off from studying better be for a good reason.

[laureloak]

75. Boston College.

[dyingnumbers]

79. That's what struck me...

When I saw the photo of Markoff in this article, it occurred to me that by all appearances he looked "normal" except that's always the case with modernism, whenever some people aren't as wholesome as they seem to be. Just because they appear to blend in society doesn't mean that they're well-adjusted, so that made me wonder if anyone had considered giving him serious psychiatric treatment, or did anyone bother to look into it. Also, he was very young and although I won't say he was vulnerable I will point out that he might have been very impressionable.

[Rhiannon12866]

60. Just heard this on the local news. Totally creepy story...

Apparently, he also went to school in Albany... x(

[superconnected]

63. Good riddance.

I should say, condolences to his parents and siblings as I assume this would be hard for them even though he is murderer.

[madrchsod]

68. good thing ed gein did`t have craigslist....

[ProudDad]

76. "suicide" -- yeah, right... (n/t)