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Kadie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-29-04 09:57 AM
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Rice urged to 'rise above principles'
Rice urged to 'rise above principles'
Her '60 Minutes' interview doesn't sway Republican on 9/11 panel

WASHINGTON - Two Sept. 11 commission members, a Republican and a Democrat, on Monday urged national security adviser Condoleezza Rice to reconsider her refusal to testify in public and under oath about President Bush's counterterrorism strategies.

more... http://msnbc.msn.com/id/4623066/
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Narf Donating Member (302 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-29-04 09:59 AM
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1. Why can't they subpoena her?
I don't think she can claim executive privilege, can she? She's subject to the same laws as you and I, right?
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NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-29-04 10:04 AM
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2. The Rethugs would like nothing better than to have them subpoena her
Bush and his minions would fight it in the courts and there wouldn't be a final court decision until some time next year which would mean no 9/11 report until after then either.

Don

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oregonjen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-29-04 10:05 AM
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3. I believe that the whole process of using a subpoena
would take longer with the small amount of time they have left to finish the report by July.
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SpiralHawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-29-04 10:09 AM
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4. Is there an e-mail campaign on this?
Because I want to write to Condi and to other key investigatory figures, and voice my opinion as a US citizen that I would like some straight answers from her.
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calimary Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-29-04 03:13 PM
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16. Try this...


UPDATE FOR: WORLDWIDE 9-11 PHONE, FAX, EMAIL CAMPAIGN

“Had I known that the enemy was going to use airplanes to kill on that fateful morning, I would have done everything in my power to protect the American people.” (George W. Bush, The White House Rose Garden, 5-17-2002)

PHILADELPHIA -- March 16, 2000 -- (TomFlocco.com) -- Citizen reports last week that House, Senate and 9-11 Commission offices have been deluged with phone calls, faxes and emails from Americans--and those from other countries who lost loved ones--demanding to have President Bush, National Security Advisor Condoleezza Rice, Joint Chiefs Chairman General Richard Myers and other officials testify in public and under oath.

Citizens demanding to learn what the administration knew before the attacks, but also public explanations of curious actions during the attacks were bolstered by comments indicating that the panel is still listening to the court of public opinion regarding open testimony by officials at the very highest levels of government.


..... and the consequences.......


Kean and Hamilton now face the daunting task regarding whether the constitutional crisis sure to be created when Mr. Bush invokes presidential immunity and use immunity for himself and his surrogates in response to their subpoena, is worth the aggravation. To America and the world, it is. To the poor families, it is. And perhaps most of all, for the sake of History and Truth, it surely is.

http://tomflocco.com/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=43

MORE:

National Commission on Terrorist Attacks Upon the United States
301 7th Street, SW
Room 5125
Washington, DC 20407

Washington Office*
Tel: (202) 331-4060
Fax It is vital to get these criminals under oath.
: (202) 296-5545

email: info@9-11Commission.gov

And don't forget your reps in Congress:

www.senate.gov

http://www.house.gov/writerep/

When I called last week, the lady who answered the switchboard number practically pleaded with me to send an email (which of course I did).

And note my sig line -- TOLL FREE to Capitol Hill...

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leesa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-29-04 10:10 AM
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5. "rise above principles"???...that should be easy!
She has none except greedy grasping.
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havocmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-29-04 11:55 AM
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12. She'd have to have a car to have car trouble. (n/t)
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grytpype Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-29-04 10:11 AM
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6. If she ever did testify...
If she ever did testify, she would have to stick to her story (i.e., keep lying). That's why she doesn't want to testify. Anyway, nothing new would come out of her testimony.
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calimary Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-29-04 03:16 PM
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17. WHICH story would she have to stick to? The one she "misspoke"
from, or the original as it stood before she "misspoke?" Or is there another, besides?

Contradicta Rice.
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BR_Parkway Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-29-04 10:12 AM
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7. It is pure BULLSH*T - ShrubCo appointed this, not Congress
"Lehman countered that Rice would not be sacrificing that principle, known as executive privilege, because the panel, which was appointed by the president, is "not an arm of the Congress."

This is not the same as being called to testify in front of Congress - they are saying Seperation of Powers and the media is picking up the talking point, but the EXECUTIVE branch put together this panel - BushCo won't let her testify and they are trying to spin it.

Everyone needs to keep repeating this, so the focus doesn't get shifted.

It's BUSH's hearing, not Congress!
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bemildred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-29-04 10:27 AM
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8. 'rise above principles'
Do these people ever think at all about what they are saying?
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Jeff in Cincinnati Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-29-04 10:31 AM
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9. It's a short trip...
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Az_lefty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-29-04 10:59 AM
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10. If she was principled..
she would be willing to testify in public. she's already set the president by appearing on the talk shows and discussing this.
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Skidmore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-29-04 11:00 AM
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11. But she is
principally--a liar.
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skypilot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-29-04 12:18 PM
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13. I can't, for the life of me, imagine...
...why anyone would go on record saying that they would be willing to testify BUT NOT UNDER OATH. I'd sooner cut out my tongue than say that. Could anything make you look more guilty and secretive?
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Kadie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-29-04 12:50 PM
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14. It does sound like someone who is planning on lying
doesn't it.

And to come right out and say it :crazy:
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tom_paine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-29-04 12:53 PM
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15. "Rise above her principals"???
:wtf: :crazy: :silly:

She'd have to have them first.
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callous taoboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-29-04 03:26 PM
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18. Oh, CONdi
CONdi, CONdi, CONdi
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leodem Donating Member (84 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-29-04 03:35 PM
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19. Wouldn't you expect Bush and Cheney to have a.....
black female as their fall person. :)
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