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mike r (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-21-10 12:46 AM Original message |
U.S. Inaction Lets Look-Alike Tubes Kill Patients |
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boppers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-21-10 12:54 AM Response to Original message |
1. I call PR bullshit. |
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Downwinder (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-21-10 12:58 AM Response to Reply #1 |
2. About time. |
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Gormy Cuss (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-21-10 01:05 AM Response to Reply #1 |
5. From the article, one problem with color coding is not all manufacturers use the same scheme. |
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boppers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-21-10 01:47 AM Response to Reply #5 |
10. Is it a free scheme, or some asshole with a patent on "colors on wires"? eom |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-21-10 01:47 AM Response to Reply #5 |
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CreekDog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-21-10 04:04 AM Response to Reply #1 |
22. it's an effective safety practice to engineer out an easy to make mistake |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-21-10 01:01 AM Response to Original message |
3. Um, instead of putting a tube down the patient's nose (an actual tube placement), the nurse |
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Orrex (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-21-10 01:03 AM Response to Reply #3 |
4. I agree--it's like saying "Oops, I fed the gas pump into your transmission fluid." |
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mike r (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-21-10 01:31 AM Response to Reply #3 |
7. Misconnections are a 'persistent occurrence' in hospitals |
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Mojorabbit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-21-10 03:41 AM Response to Reply #7 |
21. There is no excuse for it. |
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AllyCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-21-10 04:45 AM Response to Reply #21 |
23. There is an excuse. I know the RN involved in the epidural-medication-in-IV |
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Gormy Cuss (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-21-10 09:25 AM Response to Reply #23 |
26. My friends and relatives who are nurses agree: being really tired is an underlying problem |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-22-10 01:01 AM Response to Reply #26 |
48. yes, overwork is the real problem, but most of the errors in the article have nothing to do with |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-21-10 03:04 PM Response to Reply #7 |
31. you misunderstood what i'm saying. the article says: " Instead of snaking a tube through Ms. |
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mike r (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-21-10 09:36 PM Response to Reply #31 |
32. I see your point |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-21-10 11:16 PM Response to Reply #32 |
33. the article speaks of the ngt & the food bag tube as though they were the same tube. they're not. |
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Downwinder (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-21-10 11:24 PM Response to Reply #33 |
34. From the OP it looks like a procedure error rather than a tube mix up. |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-21-10 11:26 PM Response to Reply #34 |
35. no, but the lack of accuracy makes me question the entire story & why it appears at all. |
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Downwinder (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-21-10 11:39 PM Response to Reply #35 |
36. There is another case in the OP and we have enough comments |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-21-10 11:45 PM Response to Reply #36 |
38. whatever, dude. the article is a mess & there's always a possibility for error when humans |
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mike r (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-21-10 11:44 PM Response to Reply #35 |
37. This is not an uncommon occurrence: 1,200 times in the past 10 years |
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Downwinder (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-21-10 11:51 PM Response to Reply #37 |
39. How do you get things fixed? I think that is the real problem. |
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mike r (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-22-10 12:17 AM Response to Reply #39 |
41. Maybe a celebrity death |
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Downwinder (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-22-10 12:42 AM Response to Reply #41 |
47. Nobody would like my solutions. I have to agree in part with both you |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-22-10 12:11 AM Response to Reply #37 |
40. not a simple engineering issue. The list of supposed "connection errors" in the article - aren't. |
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Downwinder (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-22-10 12:25 AM Response to Reply #40 |
42. Can you reduce the problem with engineering? Like having one plug |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-22-10 12:32 AM Response to Reply #42 |
45. it's not a connection issue. you're not understanding. The list of errors all involved small |
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mike r (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-22-10 12:26 AM Response to Reply #40 |
43. The idea is to idiot-proof those connectors |
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Downwinder (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-22-10 12:30 AM Response to Reply #43 |
44. The Air Force's T-37 was fool proof, but not idiot proof. With enough effort |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-22-10 12:38 AM Response to Reply #43 |
46. I'm a dietitian who does tube feedings and IV feedings. It's not a connection issue. |
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Chulanowa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-21-10 01:46 AM Response to Reply #3 |
9. If you knew how many incompetent fucks work in the health care indistry... |
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azurnoir (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-21-10 02:07 AM Response to Reply #9 |
18. I work in health care and am familialr with both G and J tubes (feeding tubes) |
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Chulanowa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-21-10 02:10 AM Response to Reply #18 |
20. I was banking more on "negligent stupidity" than simple incompetence |
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Abq_Sarah (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-21-10 02:04 AM Response to Reply #3 |
17. yeah |
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northernlights (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-21-10 05:50 AM Response to Reply #17 |
24. just for the record, color coding |
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Abq_Sarah (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-21-10 11:41 AM Response to Reply #24 |
27. Well |
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Downwinder (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-21-10 11:45 AM Response to Reply #27 |
28. You have different plugs for different voltages. Makes sense, doesn't it? n/t |
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northernlights (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-21-10 01:02 PM Response to Reply #27 |
30. then I suggest you go through nursing school |
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superconnected (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-21-10 01:18 AM Response to Original message |
6. Horrifying. Poor woman! |
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bc3000 (766 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-21-10 01:41 AM Response to Original message |
8. The quality of our regulatory agencies is turning me into a libertarian. |
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Chulanowa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-21-10 01:47 AM Response to Reply #8 |
11. Because nothing is not greater than something |
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boppers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-21-10 01:50 AM Response to Reply #11 |
13. -1 is greater than 0? |
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Chulanowa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-21-10 01:54 AM Response to Reply #13 |
15. See, that doesn't even make any sense |
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boppers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-21-10 02:01 AM Response to Reply #15 |
16. Phd on math fail. eom |
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Chulanowa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-21-10 02:08 AM Response to Reply #16 |
19. Don't worry, you'll do better |
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northernlights (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-21-10 05:58 AM Response to Reply #13 |
25. you need to check your eyesight. |
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Odin2005 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-21-10 11:49 AM Response to Reply #11 |
29. Google "Regulatory Capture" |
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Selatius (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-22-10 04:45 AM Response to Reply #8 |
49. We have no other choice but to try to recapture the regulatory agencies. Otherwise, deaths occur. |
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