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Judi Lynn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-09-10 03:14 PM Original message |
Winston Churchill 'caused death of 1m in Indian famine' |
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Vehl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-09-10 03:34 PM Response to Original message |
1. He was also an unrepentant racist...im sure those racist views played a huge part in this |
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roguevalley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-09-10 04:53 PM Response to Reply #1 |
13. don't get me started on his shit storm over Ireland. |
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Ken Burch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-09-10 07:42 PM Response to Reply #1 |
28. More of Churchill on race (and religion) |
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Vehl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-09-10 08:30 PM Response to Reply #28 |
35. Yeah |
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MellowDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-09-10 11:22 PM Response to Reply #1 |
40. Interestingly, Ghandi himself was rather racist... |
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johnroshan (333 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-09-10 03:37 PM Response to Original message |
2. India has long endured such neglect... |
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nyy1998 (984 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-09-10 03:51 PM Response to Reply #2 |
3. Agreed for the most part, Amartya Sen wrote a great piece a few years ago |
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Vehl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-09-10 04:02 PM Response to Reply #3 |
5. Yep, India and China made up more than 50% of the world GDP before colonization |
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nyy1998 (984 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-09-10 04:34 PM Response to Reply #5 |
9. That's an excellent chart |
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golfguru (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-09-10 07:19 PM Response to Reply #5 |
26. Best chart I have seen on World Economy |
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Shanti Mama (625 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-10-10 12:32 AM Response to Reply #5 |
41. Are Indians and Chinese complaining that the US took their jobs? |
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ObamaIn2012 (15 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-10-10 07:22 PM Response to Reply #2 |
44. And now they're taking our jobs! |
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slampoet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-09-10 03:55 PM Response to Original message |
4. This was always known by followers of Ghandi. Why do white people have to admit it for it to be true |
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Judi Lynn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-09-10 04:03 PM Response to Reply #4 |
6. This is the first time a lot of "white people" have ever heard about it. |
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Vehl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-09-10 04:08 PM Response to Reply #6 |
7. yeah |
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Kolesar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-09-10 04:51 PM Response to Reply #7 |
11. Churchill is revered in America because he helped to promote the Cold War |
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hedgehog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-09-10 04:32 PM Response to Reply #6 |
8. Not all "white people", just ask the Irish about Winston and his father Randolph. |
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dixiegrrrrl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-09-10 06:11 PM Response to Reply #6 |
20. remember their similarity.=boozehounds. |
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Octafish (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-09-10 09:56 PM Response to Reply #4 |
37. + 7 Billion |
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MellowDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-09-10 11:11 PM Response to Reply #4 |
39. Nice way to racialize something for no apparant reason.... |
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Billy Burnett (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-09-10 04:36 PM Response to Original message |
10. Nonsense. Another success of capitalism. |
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Gator_Matt (186 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-09-10 04:58 PM Response to Reply #10 |
15. As bad as, if not worse than, Stalin? Give me a break. |
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Billy Burnett (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-09-10 06:05 PM Response to Reply #15 |
19. I said Rule Britannia. But, while you're at it ... |
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Vehl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-09-10 08:20 PM Response to Reply #15 |
33. Churchill was the head of state for crying out loud! |
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Kolesar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-09-10 04:52 PM Response to Original message |
12. K&R. I had no idea. |
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Drale (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-09-10 04:57 PM Response to Original message |
14. unfortunately |
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OnlinePoker (837 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-09-10 05:06 PM Response to Reply #14 |
17. And don't forget about Eisenhower allowing about 1 million German prisoners to die post WW2. n/t |
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Judi Lynn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-09-10 06:02 PM Response to Reply #17 |
18. Never heard about it, so I took a quick look, and found something immediately: |
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dixiegrrrrl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-09-10 06:28 PM Response to Reply #18 |
21. Very little was publicized about the British concentration camps used in the Boer War. |
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Judi Lynn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-09-10 06:33 PM Response to Reply #21 |
22. Didn't know about this, dixiegrrrrl. Glad to find out now from you. |
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dixiegrrrrl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-09-10 06:59 PM Response to Reply #22 |
24. You are welcome. |
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Vehl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-09-10 08:17 PM Response to Reply #21 |
31. thank you for this information! |
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LostinVA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-10-10 06:35 AM Response to Reply #21 |
42. I was just coming here to mention the Boer War and the Crimea |
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Vehl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-09-10 05:06 PM Response to Original message |
16. Another...much bigger famine during the British East India company rule killed about 10-15 million! |
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Judi Lynn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-09-10 06:40 PM Response to Reply #16 |
23. Good grief. Screwing with their food supply, "violent" tax collecting, and it's followed |
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Billy Burnett (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-09-10 07:04 PM Response to Original message |
25. Bookmarking for use when I read DU posts about big bad Castro. |
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golfguru (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-09-10 07:27 PM Response to Original message |
27. Why was Churchill or any other non-Indian obligated to help Indians? |
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Vehl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-09-10 08:05 PM Response to Reply #27 |
29. Churchil was obliged to look after his "colonies"... |
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golfguru (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-09-10 08:18 PM Response to Reply #29 |
32. My parents lived through that period in India |
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Vehl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-09-10 08:26 PM Response to Reply #32 |
34. ok so I guess other kingdoms should have simply supported the |
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golfguru (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-09-10 09:50 PM Response to Reply #34 |
36. I think we are in agreement that the British in general and Churchill |
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Vehl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-10-10 01:43 PM Response to Reply #36 |
43. yes |
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Vehl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-09-10 08:09 PM Response to Original message |
30. "History will be kind to me for I intend to write it" ~ Churchill |
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totodeinhere (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-09-10 10:05 PM Response to Original message |
38. It's stretch to say that because he refused aid that means that he "caused" it. |
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fedsron2us (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-11-10 07:50 PM Response to Reply #38 |
47. Be reasonable someone has a book to sell here |
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CrawlingChaos (583 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-10-10 07:37 PM Response to Original message |
45. K&R - glad to see this being discussed (nt) |
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entanglement (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-11-10 12:45 PM Response to Original message |
46. Despite the many layers of revisionist whitewash applied to the history of the British Empire |
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mitchum (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-12-10 02:39 PM Response to Original message |
48. Churchill was an eloquent pig |
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