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cal04 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-10-10 10:03 AM
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Feds Say AZ Violates Rights of English Learners
Edited on Fri Sep-10-10 10:13 AM by cal04
Source: AP

Federal investigators say the state is violating the 1964 Civil Rights Act by shortchanging thousands of students whose first language is not English.

Unless changes are made, the violations could lead to a loss of federal funding for state education.

The Arizona Republic reports one complaint alleges the Arizona Department of Education has reclassified ''many thousands'' of children as proficient in English even though tests indicate they aren't.

The second complaint says federal departments found the state eliminated two questions from its home-language survey in 2009.

Read more: http://www.nytimes.com/aponline/2010/09/10/us/AP-US-English-Learners.html?hp



Feds: Arizona is violating the rights of its ELL students
http://www.azcentral.com/community/chandler/articles/2010/09/10/20100910arizona-violating-ell-students-rights.html
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SargeUNN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-10-10 10:09 AM
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1. Well that spares Brewer since
as the world now knows, she can't speak proper english either.
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Rage for Order Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-10-10 10:14 AM
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2. How is this different from any other subject in school?
Kids who can't demonstrate proficiency in any number of subjects are nonetheless routinely promoted to the next grade level. Schools need to keep the assembly line moving, out with the old in with the new. Some school districts have taken to not giving out a grade lower than 50, even if a student does absolutely nothing, because they don't want to completely discourage kids from returning to school.
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SargeUNN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-10-10 10:18 AM
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4. obviously You aren't informed on this law
This law is directed at hispanics and to rid our Arizona schools of letting the hispanic culture corrupt and destroy our American Culture. That is what this law is about according the ones who supported and passed it.
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HopeHoops Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-10-10 10:40 AM
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7. Our so called "American Culture" in Arizona is a whining infant as far as "cultures" are concerned.
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Igel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-10-10 02:20 PM
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9. Because some rights are specified, others aren't.


There's the right, assumed to result from due process concerns, that children have to expect an equal education. That means if there are enough students with a common first language other than English they must receive instruction in their primary language. Moreover, since English is a bit of learning that is generally necessary in the US, they have a right to an adequate training in English.

The SCOTUS case is referred to as Lau, the Chinese student in San Fran in whose name the case was brought in the '60s. Since then ESL programs in public schools must be Lau compliant. What that means, however, has shifted and metamorphosed over time.

The Flores consent decree, a parallel case in Arizona in the '90s, pointed out that there was no guarantee that the Lau-compliant program yielded the Lau goals. Some assessment had to be instituted. This had to be properly funded.

Before the consent decree was implemented, Arizona passed a bilingual education measure that mandated structured English immersion as the dominant, nearly the only, permitted form of ESL education. Students could have 1 or 2 years' bilingual ed while they were trained in English; then they were to be mainstreamed, and every content teacher was also an ESL teacher.

Of course, as with the Lau decision the idea that "every" student has the same right is patently false. Lau only works if there's a (ill-defined) sufficient number of students. In practice, with that number of students comes political power. The children of recent Macedonian immigrants don't merit the right unless there's a lot of them. Those who benefit most even with the restrictions tend to be potentially politically powerful and visibly minorities; those who benefited from the previous policies were potentially politically powerful and visibly minorities; and what's advocated for benefits those who are potentially politically powerful and visibly minorities.

The AZ law, however, stipulated a few alternatives. Parents must be given the option of applying for additional years of bilingual ed if they think their kids aren't able to do adequate work in English. Teachers can refer kids back to bilingual ed programs for the same reason. The schools must assess whether or not bilingual ed programs are meeting their goals. Home language is relatively unimportant in this evaluation: If my parents are Finnish and speak primarily Finnish at home, that's going to be my home language--even if I became conversationally fluent by 2nd grade and academically adequate by 4th grade. I could go on to win national essay writing contests, and still my home language might be almost entirely Finnish. (It probably wouldn't be: all the Finns I've known have pushed themselves and their kids towards fairly good English competence very quickly. The Macedonians did the same.)

Of note is the wordage that the AZ test used either doesn't test every language domain or doesn't distinguish between students that are overall adequate versus those who fail in one domain and excel at others. I'm not sure what they mean by "domain"--whether they mean the usual 4 skills of speaking, writing, reading, and listening or conversation vs. academic (with subdisciplines: math, science, history, etc.). It's very, very hard--probably too hard--to ensure even development in all 4 skills and in all contexts.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-10-10 02:31 PM
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11. Discrimination based on race or ethinicity is still illegal in this country?
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dkf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-10-10 10:17 AM
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3. Where are the anti testers now?
And is this the teachers fault? Or is nothing wrong here?
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JonLP24 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-10-10 10:21 AM
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5. I blame it on state republicans
banning bilingual education.
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dkf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-10-10 10:31 AM
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6. I didn't realize the Feds enforce english language testing though.
I thought we had no national language or some such thing.
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Igel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-10-10 02:05 PM
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8. Yes, they enforce it.
No, there's no national language.
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wordpix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-10-10 02:28 PM
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10. take it from a teacher: schools put kids in grades based on age, not skills
Edited on Fri Sep-10-10 02:30 PM by wordpix
so you get international students, Hispanic or otherwise, coming into, say, 7th grade because that's where their age-peers are. But these students are not able to do the assignments in English on that level. Then they're passed onto the next grade and are supposed to do 8th gr. assignments when their Eng. skills are still not up to par.

I was asked to tutor an 11th grade Hispanic student who was way behind in his assignments. That wasn't his main problem, though; his main problem was that after spending 4 years in American schools, he still could not read, write or speak the language well. His Eng. skills were on about the 4th gr. level because he had never been taught the basics and brought up from there.

Schools and school systems should get a clue: give international students a one-year English intensive program before placing them in classes according to age.
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