BREAKING: Terry Jones: 'We will not burn the Quran'

[Heidi]

Source: MSNBC

Terry Jones: 'We will not burn the Quran'
Fla. pastor says on NBC's 'Today' show that his church will never carry out the plan


Updated 4 minutes ago
BREAKING NEWS

Pastor Terry Jones told NBC's "Today" show on Saturday that his church in Gainesville, Fla., would not burn Qurans in protest of the building of an Islamic center near the site of the Sept. 11 attacks.

"We will definitely not burn the Quran, no," he said.

"Not today, not ever," he said when pressed about whether his planned demonstration might happen at a later date.

Read more: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/39113743/ns/us_news-security/

[Ikonoklast]

1. I wonder if the Feds showed him what they have on his 'church'.

[burnsei sensei]

3. I strongly suspect that this is the case. nt

[myrna minx]

6. Very interesting thought. n/t

[AC_Mem]

16. Feds show them what they have on his "church"

Ahhh, VERY good point!

[BreweryYardRat]

26. Quite possible.

But whatever it takes to make these assholes see sense...

[totodeinhere]

27. If they have evidence of illegality, they need to indict him in spite of his backing down. n/t

[Renew Deal]

2. Now every attention whore out there knows what they need to do to get attention.

:puke:

[TheCowsCameHome]

4. He's probably in NYC to interview for Fox.

He'd fit.

[connecticut yankee]

5. Undoubtedly

He won't give up being the center of attention.

[JackintheGreen]

7. Says Jones...

Jones said that his church's goal was "to expose that there is an element of Islam that is very dangerous and very radical."

He told NBC that "we have definitely accomplished that mission."


Just change "Islam" to "Christianity" and he accomplished that, too.

[customerserviceguy]

9. How many xtians threatened to kill and maim

over the 'artful' desecration of their religious symbols?

This guy is an idiot, but he did prove that point quite well.

[Bluenorthwest]

15. Many leading Christian 'ministers' hurl bait against gay people

We are threatened with war, violence, painted as horrible monsters. Just one single hate preacher, who was a surrogate for Obama no less, has told television audiences to take off the gloves, because this is war, gay people are trying to kill our children. This is a mainstream guy. He also says we are vampires. And why does he do this? No one slandered him or his faith. He simply picked up the hate and ran with it.
So you know, all over the world, clerics such as that one cause real life violence and death and discrimination. Look at their work in Africa, really look at it, then come tell me how tidy clean that faith is. Hell, look at Fred Phelps and Pat Robertson and tell me about it.
In Africa, Christians do in fact kill and maim gay people. In fact, these 'ministers' have tried to get laws on the books over there to execute gay people.
It is what it is. Facts are facts. History is history. Honesty is honesty, self service is self service.

[Bragi]

24. Islam and gay rights isn't a happy marriage either /nt

[pipoman]

36. Oh really?

The way I understand it there is no GLBT at all in most Islamic countries..that is something only found in the land of the infidels!!1lalalalalalalal!!!

[customerserviceguy]

37. Your point is well taken

I've been under the impression that Islam is where Christianity was five hundred years ago, being willing to kill and torture others for even slight differences in interpretation of dusty old books.

I had imagined that Christianity had moved past all that, but you're absolutely right about their treatment of gay and lesbian people in some corners of the world.

[Turborama]

45. So, you think his purpose was to "prove" that Christianity is more peaceful than Islam?

And he was successful in proving that point?

:banghead:

[sabrina 1]

47. Qutie a few Christians not only threatened but carried out

threats to kill and maim over a woman's right to choose. Those Christians really hate women, don't they?

There is an old saying 'never ask a question you don't know the answer to'.

[sabrina 1]

48. You really like this guy, don't you?

Of course as you well know by now, much as keep trying to make this over a book, you know well since it's been pointed out to you over and over again, that it is NOT just over a book. Fox News has attempted to paint Muslims as lunatics who would kill over a single incident like this.

You and they continue to ignore the bloody backdrop that is the reason why this provocation would incited extremists. And you and they continue to ignore the fact that they were created by that backdrop.

He dropped his plans because he most likely realized how much legal jeopardy he was in. That not all speech is protected and that his deliberate attempt to incite violence, which you have just verified for him, is one of those kinds of speech that is not protected.

I guess I was right ~ I knew he would back away once Obama, Petraeas and Holder informed him that what he was planning was 'dangerous'. That was very clever of them. Because he was left with no legal defense in the inevitable lawsuits coming his way.

He proved nothing about Islamic extremists that wasn't already known, but he did prove a lot about some Americans, some of them even on the 'left'. For that we should be grateful to him.

[BulletproofLandshark]

11. Yep.

Some people, like this pastor, are willfully ignorant of the uglier historical aspects of Christianity.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crusades

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spanish_Inquisition

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christianity_and_slavery

[pipoman]

39. Anything in the last few hundred years?

..of coarse the key word in your post being "historical", in fact almost ancient historical...sorry to interrupt your 'reasons to hate Christians' rant.

[BulletproofLandshark]

43. And yet Christians like Pastor Jones show it's evolved so much.

:sarcasm:

And slavery only ended in the U.S. around 150 years ago. I don't hate Christians, but I sure don't have any love for Christianity itself, or for most organized religion. Is your faith in Christianity so weak that you can't stand light being shined on its transgressions?

[pipoman]

46. Actually it is the fools hereabouts

who can't see that nearly every soup kitchen, free clinic, and non-profit health facility in the US are funded by Christians, in fact that Christians give more to charitable causes in the US than any other group bar none...but as I said just carry on...oh, but by all means avoid being a hypocrite..no using Christian funded services, ya hear..just let us know when you come up with something, say, since electric lights..

[RBInMaine]

8. Another WIN for Obama. He ordered Gates to tell this asshole not to do it. CHECKMATE !

[Gecko6400]

17. How is government suppression

of 1st Amendment freedoms, if true, a win for President Obama? I guess I just don't understand your comment.

BTW I do not support burning of any book, but I do support the Bill of Rights

[cleanhippie]

19. If that is the case, I do not approve....at all!

That would be the government suppressing the constitutional rights of an American citizen. Bad juju, very, very bad.

[totodeinhere]

29. Not a win for Obama. Publicity over this incident has hurt our relations with the Muslim world.

And Obama will now have to face the consequences of that.

[pipoman]

40. OFTLOF

we have had such positive relations with the "Muslim world" (this is really a stupid moniker, but whatever) recently...if our relations with the "Muslim world" can be damaged by this idiot in FL then the "Muslim world" are fucking incredible idiotic morons beyond help.

[totodeinhere]

42. It's already happening.

http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE6891AM20100910

[pipoman]

41. Do you really think this is good?

[spartan61]

10. Now we know who paid for his plane tkt. NBC (or maybe Faux).

[Brother Buzz]

23. K.A. Paul, a Christian evangelist preacher dude, and friend, bought the ticket

BUT, we now know where his food and lodging is coming from in the big city.

[Javaman]

12. aka terry jones realizes the crazy isn't as profitable as it once was. nt

he's not burning out of sanity, he's not burning it because the insane idea is no longer profitable to him.

[BulletproofLandshark]

13. IMO, the guy was angling for a talk show the whole time. n/t

[missingfink]

18. Same HS & graduating class as Rush........

Limbaugh. The St. Louis Post-Dispatch is reporting that "Pastor" Jones & Rush (the great divider of Americans) Limbaugh were both in the Cape Girardeau (MO) Central HS class of 1969. By coincidence, so was my dreaded sister-in-law.

[activa8tr]

22. There must have been something in the water or the school lunches to make these

people so ugly and crazy.

[Bette Noir]

14. Somebody tell Mr. Jones that his 15 minutes are up.

[Xenotime]

20. Good to see the government can control religious rage in the country.

[activa8tr]

21. I heard that his estranged daughter that has decided her father has

gone mad!

I think this is about as close and accurate as you can get.

[Tx4obama]

25. Looks like Terry Jones will not have a church much longer unless he finds money

Excerpt from wikipedia:

.... the bank where the church has a $140,000 mortgage loan, has demanded immediate repayment of the balance and Jones has also had his property insurance canceled.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2010_Qur%27an-burning_controversy

[totodeinhere]

30. There are a lot of crazies and bigots who will probably step forward to donate to him now.

He could very well come out ahead. In this country, bigotry pays. Look at Palin who rode her bigotry to millionaire status.

[Brother Buzz]

32. He's jumped the shark

He's fallen faster and harder than Orly Taitz. He's good for a couple of news cycle at best, but he's toast.

[alp227]

28. WHO GIVES A DAMN???? This story is just all sensationalist filler.

I am honestly tired of hearing about this story and every flip-flop development every few hours and am glad the pastor decided to do the right thing and not burn the Qurans.

[cbdo2007]

44. And of course DU falls for it hook, line, and sinker.

No one blows stuff out of proportion than the people here at DU.

Seriously, Beck and Limbaugh would probably have to go off the air, and all this other stupid stuff wouldn't happen if people on DU would just ignore crazy every time it comes along.

[Zephie]

31. Does anyone else feel like this was a cry of "Notice me, notice me"?

I think that he never actually planned to do anything, just knew he could whip up a firestorm and choose to do it for fun. Such a depressing state of affairs.

[Trajan]

33. Terry Who ?

Never heard of him ....

[jonthebru]

34. This guy has gotten much more media time than he ever deserved.

Send him home.
The fraud he is will continue to be exposed but not on national media please.

[Tx4obama]

35. Now a new guy in Amarillo is going to do it !!!

Leader of anti-gay group in Amarillo plans to publicly burn Quran on 9/11 anniversary

.... David Grisham, the leader of a militant evangelical group in Amarillo, tells the local CBS affiliate that he plans to publicly burn the Muslim holy book on Saturday. Grisham is the leader of Repent Amarillo, which gained attention in January when it launched a boycott of Houston after the city elected on openly gay mayor, Annise Parker:

According to Grisham, he has questioned why he should go through with his plan, but in the end, he feels it is right.

“Terrorism was seeded by the ideas in the Quran. It’s the Quran that has put our troops in danger. Burning one isn’t going to put our troops in danger. It’s the ideas contained in that book that put them in danger,” said Grisham.

Grisham is a security guard at a nuclear-bomb facility called Pantex, according to media reports. Repent Amarillo goes by the moniker “Army of God” and refers to itself as the “special forces of spiritual warfare.” The group has also gained attention for a campaign to shut down a local swingers club, as well as a “warfare map” posted on its website identifying its enemies in Amarillo.

http://www.dallasvoice.com/leader-antigay-group-amarillo-plans-burn-quran-911-anniversary-1043497.html

[rocktivity]

38. Having the right to do something doesn't always make it the right thing to do.

Maybe Jones saw the inherent hypocrisy of his actions--would he have supported the "Constitutional right" of a mosque to sponsor a Bible burning? Maybe he heard the plea of his daughter (who describes him as a power-mad megalomaniac). Maybe he got tired of the media attention. Maybe he was afraid that his past might be researched (he was ousted from a church he ran in Germany). Maybe he deferred to the U.S. military leaders who said it would endanger the troops. Maybe he was worried about the bill he would be getting for police overtime, or the fine he'd have to pay for not having a fire permit. But he's done the right thing, and I'm very happy.

:headbang:
rocktivity

[martymar64]

49. Between Sarah Palin and now Terry Jones, Monty Python is being unjustly smeared.

Please please please lets not have any crazies named Cleese or Gilliam or Chapman or Idle.

[Vehl]

50. Im sick and tired of this

Of pastors who say "im gonna burn a koran"....and those who change their minds...and then change again..

and the media that hypes this all up and makes mountains out of molehills....to the benefit of some stupidos and their followers...

[ProudDad]

51. Welcome to the side-show

welcome to bread and circuses...

welcome to the misdirection, the move that takes your eyes off of the real problem...

The real problem is the dominator system and its handmaiden, capitalism...the process that will kill us all...