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alp227 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-14-10 01:32 PM
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Opponents present case against Obama's health-care law in 20-state lawsuit
Source: The Washington Post

Twenty states are squaring off against the Obama administration on Tuesday in a lawsuit seeking to nullify the sweeping new health-care law.

The suit - originally filed by Florida Attorney General Bill McCollum (R) and the Republican attorneys general of 12 other states within hours of the law's adoption last March - quickly became the most prominent of several pending legal challenges as seven more states signed on. Two individuals and the National Federation of Independent Business, a small-business association that lobbied vigorously against the law, have also joined. (Virginia has filed a separate lawsuit that awaits a judge's decision on whether it can move forward.) The lawyers will make their case before a federal judge in Pensacola, Fla.

In addition to Florida, the states now party to the multi-state suit are South Carolina, Nebraska, Texas, Utah, Louisiana, Alabama, Michigan, Colorado, Pennsylvania, Washington, Idaho, South Dakota, Indiana, North Dakota, Mississippi, Arizona, Nevada, Georgia and Alaska.

Read more: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/09/14/AR2010091402458.html
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-14-10 01:50 PM
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1. It boggles my mind that there are so-called humans
out there who want to prevent people getting health care.
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zipplewrath Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-14-10 02:11 PM
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3. Technically that's not what they are doing
Nor are they particularly ensured of such an outcome. Their suit attempts to prevent people from being forced to purchase insurance. Basically they want to delete the mandate. The result of that isn't particularly clear because the "penalty" for not having the insurance is so low as to be relatively ineffective in coercing people to buy it. So with or without the mandate the rest of the bill will stand at this point. Sorta a backdoor way to get rid of the mandate.

Now, beyond all that, the reality is these folks don't really care if they win or not. This is entirely about the political careers of everyone involved.

The other part about the suit is the medicaid part, and they don't have a prayer on that.
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Beavker Donating Member (784 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-14-10 02:11 PM
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2. Using Tax Payer Dollars to futily fight
to save Tax Payer Dollars from being used to help Tax Payers, while crying about the waste of Tax Payer dollars.


USA! USA!
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urbuddha Donating Member (266 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-14-10 02:32 PM
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4. Backward States-R-Us
Most of these states listed I could see doing this. I was surprised to see Washington state. Usually, they're more progressive.
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Gecko6400 Donating Member (114 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-14-10 03:01 PM
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8. And the Justice Department's
Edited on Tue Sep-14-10 03:04 PM by Gecko6400
suit over AZ's new illegal immigration law would be?????

I might imagine many folks in these states find the mandate equally unconstitutional.
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COLGATE4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-14-10 02:51 PM
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5. Typical Rethug behavior - take an issue which has almost no
merit, decide to spend the funds of taxpayers in 20 States (the same states where, I assume, they are not flush with cash right now) to pursue a pointless lawsuit, all designed to garner votes and political favor. It's all about the noise, media attention and rallying the mouth-breathers to the cause.
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Roland99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-14-10 02:54 PM
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6. Best they'll do is invalidate the mandates
which will then force some type of new or higher tax or fee to help subsidize those who can't afford the new, grossly higher premiums that we're seeing thanks to the wondrous piece of legislation.

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BeFree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-14-10 03:00 PM
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7. Question, Roland
How much would premiums have increased with no new law?
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Roland99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-14-10 03:41 PM
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9. Oh, I'm sure they would have gone up some but
now they (insurance companies) have plenty of motivation to ramp up premiums prior to the 2014 deadline for covering everyone no matter the pre-existing condition (which people with those get to pay up to double the floor premium of whatever plan).

What a win-win!!!!!





:eyes:

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Javaman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-14-10 03:41 PM
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10. Shades of things to come...
Edited on Tue Sep-14-10 03:42 PM by Javaman
if the repukes take back the senate and the house.

While I'm not a gigantic fan of the health insurance bill, I do realize that it was a step, a lousy step but a step.

if these tools and morons take over the congress, be prepared to have your health care, of any type, to sky rocket in price or vanish all together.

Yayyyyy!!!
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