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maddezmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-10 04:38 AM
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Paladino Stuns N.Y. G.O.P. With Victory
Edited on Wed Sep-15-10 04:41 AM by maddezmom
Source: NYT

By DAVID M. HALBFINGER and MICHAEL BARBARO
Published: September 14, 2010
Mr. Paladino became one of the first Tea Party candidates to win a Republican primary for governor, in a state where the Republican Party has historically succeeded by choosing moderates.

The result was a potentially destabilizing blow for New York Republicans. It put at the top of the party’s ticket a volatile newcomer who has forwarded e-mails to friends containing racist jokes and pornographic images, espoused turning prisons into dormitories where welfare recipients could be given classes on hygiene, and defended an ally’s comparison of the Assembly speaker, Sheldon Silver, who is Jewish, to “an Antichrist or a Hitler.”

Yet Mr. Paladino, 64, energized Tea Party advocates and social conservatives with white-hot rhetoric and a damn-the-establishment attitude, promising to “take a baseball bat to Albany” to dislodge the state’s entrenched political class. He also outspent Mr. Lazio, pouring more than $3 million of his fortune into the race, while Mr. Lazio spent just over $2 million.


Read more: http://www.nytimes.com/2010/09/15/nyregion/15webnygov.html?partner=rss&emc=rss




Carl Paladino's ill-informed Tea Party rage will spell doom for GOP's credibility in NY
Bill Hammond

Wednesday, September 15th 2010, 4:00 AM

Paladino wins GOP gov primary, setting up showdown with CuomoCarl Paladino loves to bluster about going after Albany's powerbrokers with a baseball bat, but the only thing he's likely to beat to a pulp is the state GOP's credibility.

Or what's left of it, anyway.

Paladino's brand of ill-informed Tea Party rage sold well with the minority of Republicans who turned out for Tuesday's primary, letting him humiliate a lackluster Rick Lazio.

But it spells almost certain disaster for his fellow Republicans in November - and beyond.

Why?

Because the reckless statements, hollow promises and dumb ideas that have been coming from the Buffalo millionaire's mouth mean his GOP running mates will have to spend the next seven weeks fending off questions about his every outrage and gaffe.


Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/opinions/2010/09/15/2010-09-15_carl_paladinos_illinformed_tea_party_rage_will_spell_doom_for_gops_credibility_i.html?r=news#ixzz0zacOWYQ5
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NeoConsSuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-10 04:43 AM
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1. Cuomo is jumping for joy! (nt)
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greenbird Donating Member (432 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-10 04:52 AM
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2. Yeah, but it means I have to keep looking at all these Paladino signs
Out where I live. They just love that idiot out here.
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ejpoeta Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-10 05:04 AM
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5. yep. and his smarmy face. he just looks like a used car salesman to me.
selling a bumper sticker but not any real ideas. he sounds like a faux news viewer... tax and spend liberals. mad as hell. blah blah blah. i hope he gets his ass handed to him.
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No Elephants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-10 04:57 AM
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3. New Yorkers who don't vote for Cuomo are developmentally challenged.
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rfranklin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-10 06:06 AM
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8. That's insulting to the developmentally challenged...
Thanks for listening.
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Earth_First Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-10 07:57 AM
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16. Palandino, is that you?!
:shrug:
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ejpoeta Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-10 05:02 AM
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4. i don't think it's that stunning. lazio refused to take paladino seriously
i never saw a lazio commercial or if i did it was a general one. he assumed he was the candidate and it bit him in the ass. i would be curious to find out what the turnout was. especially wny vs downstate because the tv made it sound like nyc was the only part that was for lazio while wny and upstate region were all for paladino. (which around where i live they were.... i saw lots of signs for paladino around here)

he's on our local station this morning at 6:15 according to their facebook post. so i posted a question.... how specifically are you going to cut taxes and spending. also exactly how much money do you get from the state monthly. the other questions didn't seem to support him either. one person asked if he got any emails lately. i thought about asking if he really believed the community center would have the pictures of the hijackers on it, but wanted to stick to things he openly claims. you can't govern from a bumper sticker.

oh another funny thing i noticed. while a different color, i saw the country first signs in the crowd complete with the star. hope he's as successful as mccain was with the presidential election. the thought of paladino as governor frightens me. i want to tell people... sure he wants to cut taxes and spending.... he wants to cut HIS taxes and any spending on you and push the taxes all on you. i wish people would wake the hell up.
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customerserviceguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-10 06:20 AM
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10. I didn't see a Lazio commercial, either
But I saw plenty of Palladino ones. Oh, well, I guess the local economy can use the spending his ill-gotten fortune will provide...
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old mark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-10 05:46 AM
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6. I'm hoping we will pick up some votes from the "moderate" GOPers
Edited on Wed Sep-15-10 05:46 AM by old mark
who can't bring themselves to vote for a lunatic for Governor...Good luck, New York dems - VOTE!

You certainly have a clear choice now...


mark
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Courtesy Flush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-10 09:20 AM
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24. That's what they were saying on NPR this morning.
The Tea Party may be a boon to the Democrats, because voters will be faced with voting for a wingnut extremist, or switch sides, or stay home.

That's the kind of thing that made me switch sides. The GOP got nuttier and nuttier. I thought they couldn't get any crazier than they were four years ago. Boy, was I wrong.

(I know. It's the Tea Party, not the GOP. But they're not sapping support from us, they're just angry Republicans in my book).
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newspeak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-10 12:26 PM
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26. Is this the guy who suggested turning prisons into work houses
teaching the poor hygiene? And is he the one who sent out tasteless animal porno and Obama racist e-mails? This is what the repugs voted for?
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Lilyeye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-10 02:28 PM
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31. That's the guy!
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sofa king Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-10 03:18 PM
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32. Hooray, Tea Party!
If it weren't for the loons, this would be a bad-looking year. As it is, we can't lose. Either they throw the election our way, or wander aimlessly into Washington demanding results from their party leadership, when their leadership will be hard pressed just to delay the unraveling of the criminal Republican empire in Washington.

The Tea Party is this close to condemning the Republican Party to a 30% demographic which includes all the Nazis, racists, lunatics and criminals and practically nobody else. It's like my dream come true. They've set the Republican Party back farther in six weeks than we have in the past ten years.
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MilesColtrane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-10 05:50 AM
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7. This is all great...until Teabaggers start winning general elections.
At that point I'll start looking for my passport.
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harun Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-10 06:14 AM
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9. So what if they do? Their platform is the same as the GOP.
Do nothing, blame the Dem's for everything, make rich people more rich.
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Occulus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-10 06:21 AM
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11. Actually, the Tea Partiers are a large group of Authoritarian Followers
as per Altmeyer's "The Authoritarians". His chilling book takes a very close, clinical look at the mindset that allowed Hitler to rise to power. This is why the Teabaggers cannot answer questions like "return our country to what, exactly", or "which rights have you lost since Obama became President". They need their leaders to tell them those answers, and that hasn't happened yet.

Everything Altmeyer describes as enabling that horrifying chapter of human history is present in the Tea Party mindset, and that fact alone scares the piss out of me. "It" can happen here, and these people will be the ones to do "it" if "it" happens here at all.
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harun Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-10 06:35 AM
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13. I think the GOP went Corpo-Fascist long before anyone used the
word "tea-party". The tea partiers are just astro-turfed media clowns.
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Loudmxr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-10 08:39 AM
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20. Add to that...What does "securing the border mean?"
Just tell me three things that you want to happen so we will know the border is "secure". OK how about two.

They always stop at "build the damn fence." ......and.....?????
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MilesColtrane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-10 07:38 AM
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15. Their platform differs from the GOP in that...
they overwhelmingly seek to scapegoat immigrants and minorities.

As much as Republicans like to talk tough about illegal immigration, the arm of the party more concerned with the economic agenda knows that corporations need illegal workers to keep labor costs down.

Your average teabagger is an older white male who is stupid, angry, and afraid, and is looking for a target to blame.

They are one charismatic leader away from building detention camps.
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MilesColtrane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-10 07:01 PM
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35. Welcome to DemocraticUnderground.
Enjoy your stay.
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Unvanguard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-10 09:38 AM
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25. They will win general elections in states that already elect conservative Republicans.
So it will make no difference to the deciding votes in Congress.

I don't envy anyone who'll live under a Tea Party governorship. However, in New York Paladino has effectively no chance of winning.
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BlancheSplanchnik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-10 10:24 PM
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36. me too!
I've already been thinking about posting on DU to ask about how to do the expat thing, should the unthinkable happen!
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PBass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-10 06:31 AM
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12. Interesting thing about Palladino that I heard on WWRL the other day...
on Errol Lewis's (sp?) morning show.

Palladino is from Buffalo and he made his fortune in real estate - renting property to the government.

So Palladino's got one hand taking in the government cash, while the other hand points an accusatory finger. Neat trick!
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Beer Snob-50 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-10 07:08 AM
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14. I think we all know what kind of asshat Paladino is
and how much of an easy time Cuomo will have.

However that still means that Democrats HAVE TO GO OUT AND VOTE!! Even if we are mad at the party establishment we have to insure that idiots like this do not get elected.
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bread_and_roses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-10 08:58 AM
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21. No fears - Cuomo's promised to go after the Public unions more openly than an old-style
R would have dared to do. He union-bashes with abandon. Cuomo's a lock on this, and would be had Lazio won - neither one had a hope in hell, and maybe the rabid Paladino on the ballot will depress whatever sane (? - if there is such a thing) R vote there is out there. Though I haven't much hope of even that - the Upstate Rs will quite possibly take back the NYS Senate.
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DainBramaged Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-10 08:03 AM
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17. Holy shit
:wow:
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myrna minx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-10 08:11 AM
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18. I'm not ready to celebrate just yet. The fact that these people
are representative of the Republican Party is chilling. :scared:
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Maeve Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-10 08:16 AM
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19. Go, Lemmings, go! eom
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1American Donating Member (154 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-10 09:06 AM
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22. Big Money Paladino
HATE WINS.
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earcandle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-10 09:10 AM
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23. I am beginning to think the elections are rigged for Tea Party folks. If they win over
Democrats, we need to find out about those voting machines.  I
would put nothing past the monied in this country.
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newspeak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-10 12:33 PM
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27. I didn't think NY had the diebold machines
I thought they were lever type.
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brooklynite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-10 12:42 PM
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28. The NY GOP has a bigger problem than Paladino...
They endorsed Bruce Blakeman to run against Gillibrand; the voters picked Joe DioGuardi

They endorsed Gary Berntsen to run against Schumer; the voters picked Jay Townsend

Fundamentally, the NY GOP is so weak, it can neither build up the financial/campaign strength of its own candidates, nor offer voters any compelling reasons to support them.
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thereismore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-10 02:17 PM
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29. Oh shit. THIS guy won??? Holy crap, what a week for the repigs. nt
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Cognitive_Resonance Donating Member (733 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-10 02:25 PM
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30. Could this give Cuomo coattails that would help NY candidates down ballot? nt
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Ruby the Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-10 05:44 PM
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33. Three cheers for the racist beastiality guy!!!
:woohoo:
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