'Saddam may have been developing ability to produce WMD'

[mobuto]

Washington, March 31. (PTI): The new chief US weapons inspector has presented a new theory, which reflects the current Administration's justification for the Iraq invasion that even if Saddam Hussein had no weapons of mass destruction, the ousted dictator "may have been" developing a capacity to develop them at short notice.

Charles A Duelfer, in his first appearance since replacing David Kay in January, told two Senate committees meeting in closed session yesterday that he had refocused the work of the Iraq Survey Group (ISG) to determine Hussein's "intentions."

Duelfer said this had included trying to discover what Saddam Hussein had ordered, whether weapons were hidden and whether there was a plan "for a break out production capacity" according to an unclassified statement Duelfer released to reporters.

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http://www.hinduonnet.com/thehindu/holnus/003200403312211.htm

And yet another new theory posits that Saddam may actually have been thinking about developing the ability to develop the precursors to what may or may not have been weapons of mass destruction...

[Jivenwail]

1. Pathetic

[ixion]

3. Yup...

Pathetic.

[Just Me]

37. Particularly pathetic considering EVERYONE may be considering,...

,...coming up with some means by which they can defend themselves!!!! Shitzka!!! Per that rationale, we are justified in bombing the whole freakin' world (and, quid pro quo, the world is justified in wanting to destroy us since there is no question whatsoever that we not only "think about" but also develop WMDs).

[DarkPhenyx]

2. Well that's a perfect reason...

...to launch an illegal pre-emprive invasion of a country resulting in the deaths of thousands of people, the expendature of Billions of dollars, and hamstrung the US economy for years to come.

I feel much better now.

[indepat]

12. And with the same criteria, we can occupy a few more dozen nations

[mobuto]

17. Japan

The Japanese Government has discussed the option of developing nuclear weapons to deter North Korea. Now they haven't actually done that, as far as we know, but they've discussed it.

30 Seconds over Tokyo, redux?

[salin]

32. but we've been at peace with them for more than 100 (or was it 150) years

or so said W during a visit to Japan a few years ago.

[damnraddem]

20. Hey, PNAC, not to mention the Administration, has talked about it ...

so they're ALREADY guilty of invading all of those nations!

[TrogL]

28. Starting with Canada

We've had nuclear technology for years. We could probably build a bomb in a week if we felt like it.

[arcane1]

4. for a "madman bent on global domination"...

he wasn't very powerful, was he?

funny how they painted him like a Hitler, with colonial aspirations, aiming to OVERTHROW THE WORLD and run it from Baghdad :eyes:

he was a pissant tyrant with barely control over his own borders...

kind of like Bush, except Bush really DOES have the colonial aspriations :P

[havocmom]

5. He may have been developing a space program to go to Mars

and he may have had a palace with special rooms to keep leprechauns whose gold he was trying to find.

Tell your congress persons to hold out for facts and not wishful maladministration thinking. If there are no facts to justify going to war, they should be looking to draw up articles of impeachment.

bush* lied. That is a fact. No "maybe" about his lying to congress, the UN and the American people.

[radfringe]

31. does that mean we can invade Mars?

we found water there, or at least the existence of water at some point in time... so that means there may have been microbes that may have evolved over time, and these microbes MIGHT develop the INTENTION to build WMDs

better bomb'em now just to be safe

[havocmom]

34. and of there were microbes, there could have been dinosaurs

and.... there might be oil, better take Halliburton when we invade

[Canuckistanian]

6. No, no, it's a typo!

It should be "Saddam may have been developing ability to pronounce WMD"

[mobuto]

7. Well, if that's the case

he may have been several years ahead of the President of the United States.

[orwell]

8. Psychic Friends Network

Recent additions to the WMD team:

Kreskin
Sylvia Brown
The Psychic Friends Network
and John Edwards (to speak to Saddam's dead sons)

O

[progressivebydesign]

9. Umm we've befriended LIBYA who HAD WMDs...

.. where did they get this mouthpiece, I mean, inspector? This is such an insult to us all, and to those that have died in Iraq.

[aquart]

10. We invaded on the "intentions" of a man in his sixties?

These idiots really were trapped in amber.

[mobuto]

15. First he was producing WMD to use against us

-which was actually a legitimate reason for war.

But that didn't quite work out.

So then it was that he had WMD left over from the 1980s, which he could still use against us at any point.

But that didn't quite work out either.

So then he didn't have WMD, but he had the scientists and the production facilities to make them.

But that didn't work out either.

So now we're hearing that he may or may not have signalled to a few friends that he might be interested in developing the capacity to make WMD if at some point he thought about it???

The mind boggles.

[Dudley_DUright]

38. We can summarize all of the above with one phase

Weapons of Mass Destruction Program Related Activity Intentions.

[Zhade]

47. "which was actually a legitimate reason for war." Not quite.

Only if the weapons were about to be launched, there was concrete proof beyond any possible doubt (like, say, independently authenticated photos of the weapons in question), and the weapons would definitely strike the United States. Anything less would NOT have justified the still-illegal invasion and occupation of Iraq. Even then it's debatable.

Just producing the weapons does not allow us the right to commit a "preventative" attack another country. Otherwise, the entire world has the right to attack us.

[johnlr6]

60. Iraq did have weapons of mass destruction . .

and they used 'em last summer (Weapons Mounted on Donkeys).

[damnraddem]

19. Given the smell coming off of it, I don't think that it's ...

amber that they're trapped in.

[jpak]

11. Thousands died for "may have been"

FU Chimp.

[orwell]

13. Minority Report

Will "thoughtcrimes" now be added to the list of charges?

O

[The_Casual_Observer]

14. Duel fer ...Doofus???

This crazy nonsense only makes it worse for bush. Keeping this story in the news can't possibly be helping bush's cause. I can't understand why they haven't quietly put and end to this commission.

[madrchsod]

16. the guy in texas had more

stuff than saddam had..the guy in texas also "may have been" developing more....does anyone believe this shit???

[damnraddem]

18. Oh, I'm sure that this is true:

in his time in his spider hole, he probably ate a lot of beans.

[TheFarseer]

21. It's like 90% against war in other countries

If you step back and look at this rationally, Saddam did just as much to England or Spain as he did to us and 9 out of 10 people in those countries are anti-war. It's like half and half here. What the hell is wrong with us. How can we be so duped?

[meti57b]

22. an intent to initiate a study to consider development of a plan to ....

think about the possible production of a program to create WMDs.

[legin]

23. starting to sound suspiciously like me in my youth

sitting round our flat dicussing who was going round the corner to buy a bottle of milk so we could have coffee.

"We'll have a another joint before we make a decision about it", was the usual method of dealing with these complex and intractable problems.

[sangh0]

24. IOW, developing programs to develop WMD-related program activities

quickly!!

[HFishbine]

25. WMDPRPAI

Weapons of Mass Destruction Program Related Planning Activity Intentions.

[koopie57]

26. next they will tell us

he was able to launch them out of his ass and the damn sheeple will believe them.

[neverborn]

27. What!?

Saddam "may have wanted to make WMDs" ... it's obvious they're trying to cover up their ineptitude.

PNAC are imperialist warmongers. Plain and simple.

[DrWeird]

29. Didn't you used to believe this kind of thing?

Just curious. I never saw a public admittance.

[JNelson6563]

36. That's what I was thinking too

Interesting to see this from a former pro-war poster.

Julie

[Zhade]

48. Don't expect one.

Not to single mobuto out - there are many pro-war DUers who never admitted they were dead wrong from day one about this debacle. There are probably a couple who still support this new Viet Nam.

Strangely, many of them are also very pro-Sharon. Go figure. I can't explain how any self-professed progressive can support that murdering fascist, but hey, I'm young. Maybe I'll figure it out someday. Though, to be honest, I hope I never see it like they do. Siding with fascists is not my idea of progressive.

[mobuto]

64. Oh?

When was I ever pro-war?

When was I ever pro-Sharon?

You're not mistaking me for some other poster, are you?

[mobuto]

63. Yes

I believed that Saddam had WMD, just as almost everyone did - including Hans Blix, every senior Clinton Administration official, and the leaders of France, Germany, etc.

Why? Because the Bush Administration lied about what evidence they had.

I did not, however, support George Bush's war.

I never saw a public admittance.

Really? Try searching. I have posted on literally dozens of Iraq threads before, during and after the invasion, and my position has remained clear and consistant.

[derby378]

30. Welcome to the Department of Pre-War-Crime

Where we know your intentions better than you do. Sorta. Maybe.

Uh, could someone start playing "Kisses For Me" in Saddam's cell again? I can't get a bead on his psychic emanations...

[nothingshocksmeanymore]

33. Next up: Saddam may have been thinking about developing ability

to produce weapons of mass destruction programs

[havocmom]

35. Somehow this has to tie in with speculation

that Miss Cleo is working for the malAdministration...

hey, you knew somebody would say it

[Runcible Spoon]

39. Bush may be developing ability to use grey matter

grrrrrrrrrrrrrrr!

[homelandpunk]

59. I like yours best. n/t

[enki23]

40. he may have been planning to try to develop the ability

to plan for the development of plans to initiate a program of activities aimed at studying the feasibility of looking into the notion of weapons of mass destruction as well.

[guitar man]

41. New Google Bomb

The search term "grasping at straws" ought to take you to this.

[Posinegativeman]

42. No way

Saddam would never even consider making or using WMD on Kurds or other enemies. Can't be true.

[guitar man]

50. He didn't make the weapons he used on Kurds

He got them from the US during the Reagan admin.

Oh look,here is the then special envoy Donald Rumsfeld meeting with Saddam shortly after he gassed the Kurds.

[rfkrocks]

54. Posin-at least our great bush ally pakistan

wouldn't hurt us by giving a-bomb ingredients to lets say Iran-because that would be a real wmd like a real friggin WMD not the play toy Saddam type-I'm talking about a city killer WMD with a country that does support terrorism doesn't and that didn't happen or perhaps did our moronic gop dominated government invade the wrong "I" country in the ME-BTW chemical weapons are probably possessed by every ME country-oh and lets thank the saudis for raising oil prices who correct me if i am wrong were the overwhelmuing majority of the 9/11 terrorists

[RetroLounge]

43. Weren't you one of those yelling for war???

or did I miss your turn-around on this?

RL

[Zhade]

49. I'm sure mobuto will explain this once he gets back from eating.

I wrongly jumped him the other day for not quickly replying to a post that challenged him, and so I'm sure that he'll be along to answer your question just as soon as he finishes his dinner...

;)

[Media_Lies_Daily]

55. Crow on crackers?

[Zhade]

56. Errr...maybe he's a vegetarian?

:D

[mobuto]

62. Why should I eat crow?

The only people who should eat crow are Colin Powell, George W. Bush, Don Rumsfeld, Condi Rice and the other figures of the Bush Administration who lied to the American public about what they knew about Iraq.

I don't understand your point.

[mobuto]

61. No.

Maybe you're thinking of another poster. I never supported Bush's war. I did think Saddam had WMD - but then so did just about everyone else.

[Hobarticus]

44. Chief Weapons Inspector Charlie McCarthy chimes in...

Never mind Bush's hand up his ass.

So 'intent' warrants an invasion, now? How the hell do you prove that?

[lunarboy13]

45. Policy Changes...

I don't care if Saddam was developing the ability to produce weapons of mass destruction. First of all, this administration took U.S. foreign policy in an entirely new and very scary direction: that of pre-emptive strike. "Planning to develop" doesn't sound like there was even an implied eminent threat to our National Security. "Planning to develop" sounds like an endeavor that UN inspectors would surely have stopped --were they given the time! The only thing that would have justified our pre-emptive strike on Iraq would have been the discovery that Saddam had built an intercontinental ballistic missile and was in the process of having a warhead of either nuclear, biological, or chemical produced.

We can't let them re-define their reasons for going to war with Iraq. They said it and then they waged war. We have to hold each and every one of them accountable for their own words.

[GalleryGod]

46. Sadam was writng his next novel...that's all

eom

[leesa]

51. Hasn't even this pathetic attempt to escape blame been

debunked about twenty times over now? We just keep recycling the same bogus reasons. We've DONE this one already!

[Media_Lies_Daily]

52. The NeoCon crap is being piled higher every day.

[louis-t]

53. ...related program activity inklings....

as they trot out the Vince Foster suicide after 5 investigations and try to get the death photos released so they can have some idiot with a medical degree from a box of Cracker Jack ask incredulously "why is his arm in such a position and the gun still pointing upward and to the left and the shadows are wrong and this photo is faked and Hillary killed him for Bill's penis and blah, bleh, blah, bleh...:silly:

[maxrandb]

57. But we Could not figure out

That some "real" threat of a bearded cave dwelling man might have had plans to potentially think about the possibility that he may have had intentions to theoretically intend to potentially hi-jack what possibly could be some form of jet aircraft and thereby, have a tendency to maybe practice some flight control ability and purportedly attempt to fly a potential jet aircraft into a supposedly tall building that may have been a potential target and could have been a probable US landmark?

Jeesh! If you support this mis-administration and actually believe the crap that comes out of it, you would have to understand the above paragraph.

Still does not explain why AssCrack potentially attempted to position himself outside of possible commercial air travel in the summer of 2001.

[Dr Fate]

58. How many times have I heard that one?

n/t

[The_Casual_Observer]

65. Duelfer, there is an area near a bridge in Fallujah

that you need to check out in your SUV. Be sure to put that plastic american flag thing in the window too.