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KC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-31-04 02:57 PM
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Missing University of Wisconsin student found alive
BREAKING NEWS Missing University of Wisconsin student found alive in Dane County, Wisconsin. Suspect being sought. Details soon.
www.cnn.com

They said she has been taken to a hospital and now they are looking for a man with a gun.


KC
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TheDebbieDee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-31-04 02:59 PM
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1. Great news - hope she'll be okay :^)
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kanrok Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-31-04 03:00 PM
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2. Yay! Good news for once!
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klook Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-31-04 03:00 PM
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3. Fantastic news
When I heard her father on the radio this morning, I felt so terrible for him and his family, not to mention the young lady. I hope she is not too bad off.
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papau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-31-04 03:07 PM
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4. Armed person being looked for by police - it is great she is alive -
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htuttle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-31-04 03:13 PM
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6. There's a detail in the CBS story I haven't heard on the local coverage
This bit:

Madison Police Capt. Luis Yudice had said investigators were trying to determine whether Seiler's disappearance was related to a Feb. 1 attack that left her unconscious when she was struck from behind by an unknown assailant.


I don't recall hearing on the local news about her being struck unconscious from behind by an unknown assailant on Feb 1st.

I don't think they reported that locally that I can recall.
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papau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-31-04 03:28 PM
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9. A stalker?
Sunday they said that the Feb 1 had no connection to current - as far as they could tell - but they had no proof one way or another.
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htuttle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-31-04 03:36 PM
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12. Maybe, but...
The whole thing about 'getting knocked unconscious from behind'...that really works a lot better in movies than it does in real life. It is extremely hard to 'knock someone out from behind' without fracturing their skull or otherwise causing a SERIOUS injury.

Again -- I'm probably just running really cynical on this. I've just had a strange feeling about this story since they mentioned she was missing Monday (when she'd been missing roughly 30 hours...).

I had my own experiences reporting someone missing a few years ago, and while they turned up on their own, we did not receive local or national media coverage about it...no police assistance either. That is probably why I'm feeling a bit cynical about this one...
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mouse7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-31-04 04:31 PM
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24. Trust me, I know all too well
I've been on Social Security Disability for over a decade for exactly that reason. Central nervous system damage (lower brain injury) and a chronic neck problems.
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KC21304 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-31-04 03:29 PM
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10. The Feb 1st incident has been reported in central Wisconsin
papers and on radio and TV.
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htuttle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-31-04 03:09 PM
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5. "marshy area near the colliseum"
I guess they'd have to be talking about Olin Park? It's only about 3/4 mile from downtown. Really not easy to get 'lost' in there -- it's not that big. Maybe she was dropped off?

When her disppearance first hit the local news here last weekend, I thought it was really strange that they were so panicky about it. She'd only been 'missing' for one day. In my own experience, the police really don't want to hear about an adult being missing until they've been gone quite a bit longer than that -- especially a college student, and especially right after a weekend. Her parents in MN apparently reported her missing.

Glad she's fine, of course, but I have a strange feeling about this case. I'm not at all sure everything is what it seems in this. Perhaps it is, and I'm just being too cynical, who knows.

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Greyskye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-31-04 07:20 PM
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32. Strange circumstances
I agree that this got more exposure than your typical missing persons case. But there were some very strange circumstances:

(the following clipped from http://www.790thezone.com/APNews/APArticle.aspx?APNewsID=239407, emphasis mine).



Seiler was last seen on a surveillance tape from her apartment building early Saturday morning. She apparently left without her car or any personal belongings, and her door was left open.

More than two dozen investigators involved in the case are reviewing files of sex offenders and others with a criminal history living in the area of Seiler's apartment.

Seiler was involved in another mysterious incident on Feb. 1, when she was struck from behind by an unknown assailant and knocked unconscious, police said. She was then moved about a block from where she was attacked but was not sexually assaulted or robbed, authorities said.

Police are unsure if there was any connection between Seiler's disappearance and the attack.

"Audrey was worried after having been attacked and, as a result, was more careful to walk with friends and make sure she was safe," said her uncle, Scott Charlesworth-Seiler.

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htuttle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-31-04 07:46 PM
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33. Well, they didn't check the surveillance tape until after she was missing
Edited on Wed Mar-31-04 07:51 PM by htuttle
I think it was her parents in Rockford, MN who decided she was missing Monday, and then they checked the tape, etc...

On that tape, BTW, she's standing by the door for awhile looking outside, apparently waiting for someone. She seems to go back upstairs, then she comes back down and leaves.

One last note: while the police department may have just been exceedingly cautious with their words, several local newscasters noted that they specifically did not use the words 'kidnapped' or 'abducted'. At least not yet.

Here's the description of the suspect they are looking for. It's believed to come from Audrey, but I'm not sure that is the case. Don't know where else it would have come from however:

White male
5'11" - 6'
20-30 yrs old
Black sweatshirt
Blue jeans

Average weight, average height, average appearance.
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Greyskye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-31-04 07:52 PM
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34. The tape isn't the strange thing

The strange thing is that she left her door open, and left without her car or any personal belongings. How often do you do that? Maybe for a few minutes, but more than that?

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NashVegas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-31-04 08:13 PM
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36. When I Heard Her Condition on the News
they said she had muscle aches and was dehydrated, but smiling a lot, the first thing that came to mind: tripping her brains out.
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htuttle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-31-04 08:20 PM
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38. Apparently you have some experience with the University of Wisconsin...
:)

Can you imagine tripping your brains out, and seeing your own face on the tv news, announcing a search in progress?

I'm not sure I'd just step right forward at that point...
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Greyskye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-02-04 12:53 PM
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46. Looks like you might be onto something!
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-31-04 03:21 PM
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7. white, young, pretty people get a lot more attention
nt
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Paradise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-31-04 03:26 PM
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8. yup, you're right, but
it is good news. :hi:
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Used and Abused Donating Member (401 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-31-04 03:54 PM
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14. It's irritating...
Edited on Wed Mar-31-04 03:55 PM by Used and Abused
Here's something you'll never see on the national news:

IYSISS K THOMPSON
Case Type:
DOB: Feb 28, 2003 Sex: Female
Missing Date: Aug 6, 2003 Race: Black
Age Now: 1 Height: 2'0" (61 cm)
Missing City: MIAMI Weight: 25 lbs (11 kg)
Missing State : FL Hair Color: Black
Missing Country: United States Eye Color: Brown

Case Number: NCMC982573
Circumstances: Iysiss was last seen at home on August 6, 2003.


http://www.missingkids.com/missingkids/servlet/PubCaseSearchServlet?act=viewChildDetail&LanguageCountry=en_US&searchLang=en_US&caseLang=en_US&orgPrefix=NCMC&caseNum=982573&seqNum=1
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-31-04 04:26 PM
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21. YES INDEED
of course I'm glad the young lady in Wisconsin is safe; however, if *I* notice the glaring difference in coverage for races, how must it make those people who are routinely ignored feel?
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Feanorcurufinwe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-31-04 03:33 PM
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11. A happy ending?
That's nice for a change!
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proud patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-31-04 03:47 PM
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13. Oh thank Goodness
:-)
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slinkerwink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-31-04 03:55 PM
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15. that's good news!
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UrbScotty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-31-04 03:57 PM
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16. Yes! Great to hear!
Miracles come in every size.
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htuttle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-31-04 04:01 PM
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17. Just in: Dozens of police officers with weapons drawn near Olin Park...
...and along John Nolan Drive. Heard from a very good source (someone who drove a TV newscaster to the scene).

Not sure if the police have actually seen anyone, but I'm told they are acting like they have.
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THUNDER HANDS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-31-04 04:01 PM
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18. let me guess, she was a really hot chick, right?
Something tells me if she was fat and ugly we'd not be hearing about this.
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-31-04 04:27 PM
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22. if she wasn't white you wouldn't hear about it
nt
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NashVegas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-31-04 08:11 PM
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35. Did You See Her Dad?
He has the look of an ex-Marine. Betcha he has a friend or maybe 3 on the force.
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qanda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-31-04 04:08 PM
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19. Good news, but...
Someone please help me with why this story is more important than American citizens being murdered and dragged through the streets of Iraq. Tell me why I should care about this when the only time I hear about someone Black disappearing is when they are related Michael Jordan.
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adriennui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-31-04 05:24 PM
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29. great minds think alike
but you beat me to it
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adriennui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-31-04 04:11 PM
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20. i'm going to seem cynical also but
why is this breaking news on all 3 cable news channels? i'm very glad she's been found and she's OK and of course this is wonderful news for her family and friends but.......


this is on a day where 4 civilians were murdered by a mob and 5 soldiers slaughtered in a convoy in iraq.

is this the bizarro world?
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leQ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-31-04 04:27 PM
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23. she was found over 2 hours ago, and the cameras are still
all over the terrain lookin for the suspect. cnn/msgop/faux, as if there's no other news to tell.

if cnn doesn't break for crossfire, they're gonna get an earful.
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-31-04 04:41 PM
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26. and Kyra is so excited..."Oooh..Look..They let the dogs out"
So for 20 minutes we're watching DOGS wandering arouns and Kyra (CNN) is totally mesmerized...

Never mind the war...or the bloated budget that got passed.. or any number of truly important things..

That girl IS important... To her FAMILY, her FRIENDS, her SCHOOL, her COMMUNITY... but NOT to the WHOLE COUNTRY...


The person who abducted her will eventually get caught... just tell us THEN ... (if you must)
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CO Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-31-04 04:36 PM
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25. "... looking for a man with a gun."
Yet another one of those "law-abiding gun owners that none of us ever have to worry about", if some of the denizens of the Justice/Public Safety Board are to be believed.....

:shrug:
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BiggJawn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-31-04 04:46 PM
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27. Yeah, maybe an off-duty or former cop?
Edited on Wed Mar-31-04 04:48 PM by BiggJawn
Save it for the Gungeon, CO.

And if they were looking for a man with a BIG knife?
We could expect to hear you inferr that kitchens should be outlawed, right?
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CO Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-31-04 05:07 PM
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28. Or Maybe a Gun Nut
Edited on Wed Mar-31-04 05:12 PM by CO Liberal
I'll post things wherever I please on DU, BiggJawn, unless the mods tell me otherwise.

ON EDIT: Why do you feel it's necessary to attack law enforcement at this juncture???
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BiggJawn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-31-04 09:53 PM
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39. Same here.
Edited on Wed Mar-31-04 09:54 PM by BiggJawn
Unless I get my wrists slapped, *I* too will post what I damn well feel like.

And I might ask a similar question of YOU.
Why did you feel it nessecary to attack "Law-abiding" (your words, not mine) gun owners?
Not all "gun nuts", as you stereotype them, are latent criminals just waiting for a chance.

I'll not be the reason this thread gets exiled to the Gungeon, so I will agree to disagree. We obviously are at opposite ends of the private firearm ownership question.
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CO Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-01-04 10:31 AM
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41. Because....
Pro-gunners are constantly saying that no one has to worry about "law-abiding gun owners". However, the papers are filled on a daily basis with stories where so-called law-abiding gun owners use their guns in a moment of rage to kill or injure others.
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0007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-01-04 11:10 AM
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43. Prolly the only person with a gun in that area -
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Ysabel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-31-04 06:05 PM
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30. yippie - counseling offered for us madisonians...
Edited on Wed Mar-31-04 06:08 PM by Ysabel
for all the trauma we've suffered...

i'm thinking of taking them up on the offer and telling them that their "news" coverage drove me insane...

edit - type - oh...!



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boobooday Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-31-04 06:43 PM
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31. Wow, that's good news
For once, evil doesn't win. :-)

Hope she's okay.

http://www.wgoeshome.com
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-31-04 08:17 PM
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latebloomer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-31-04 10:03 PM
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40. um-- you ARE joking?
Aren't you?
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radwriter0555 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-01-04 11:17 AM
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44. What does that mean? How would gore have prevented this?
That's a strange statement to make... no offense, but I do hope you'll clarify for the rest of the class?
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Dolomite Donating Member (689 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-01-04 10:54 AM
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42. Speaking of "law abiding gun owners"...
Lots of ‘people on the street’ comments being shown on the MKE TV morning news shows:

“No, I don’t feel safe…”
“Do I think that what happened to her could happen to me? Yes…”
“I carry a whistle and my phone with me everywhere, but now I’m thinking about getting ‘mace’…”

Combine this with coverage of female college students admitting that they run from building to building on their own campus when they can’t take a shuttle or arrange a walking escort – and it really makes you wonder exactly what effect hearing comments like that has upon a human predator?

“Do I think that what happened to her could happen to me? Yes…” Honestly - Do you think that makes a rapist feel discouraged and reluctant to act, or excited?

What if there was a bill that the Governor could have signed that would have turned the tables on this whole situation – one that would make the criminals worry about THEIR safety instead?

Why in the world would people not support such a bill?
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Diogenes2 Donating Member (344 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-01-04 01:22 PM
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45. Turn the tables
Uh-oh, here comes the conceal & carry hobbyhorse...
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