Fox affiliates run infomercial in swing states suggesting Obama funded by Hamas ...

[meegbear]

Source: RawStory.com

... wants to 'kill some crackers'

Numerous Fox affiliates and an ABC affiliate are broadcasting a vicious 25-minute infomercial that accuses President Barack Obama of harboring "hostility" towards America and ties him to malicious rhetoric.

The 25-minute ad, called "Breaking Point," was paid for by The National Republican Trust PAC, and since Friday has run in Iowa, Kentucky, North Carolina, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin. Its existence was highlighted by the liberal blog ThinkProgress, a project of the progressive thinktank, Center for American Progress.

It chides the "destructive ideology of leftist revolutionaries," refers to the president as a "socialist," and claims the views of Democrats are "far too extreme for Americans to accept."

"During the 2008 campaign, President Obama pretended to turn his back on some extremists from his past," the infomercial says. "You want freedom? You’re gonna have to kill some crackers! You gonna have to kill some of those babies."

Read more: http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2010/11/fox-affiliates-run-ad-tying-obama-kill-crackers-rhetoric/

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It also accused President Obama of raising campaign cash from Hamas.

“During his presidential election, he wound up with a record-shattering $750 million in his campaign," the ad intones. "To this day he refuses to report from whence it came. One reason might be that some of it originated from the terrorist group Hamas, which also endorsed Obama.”

<snip>

The infomercial has since Friday received air-time on five Fox affiliates and one ABC affiliate, according to Think Progress. Those affiliates are:

– Fox 47 WMSN, Madison, WI 11/1 7 AM
– Fox 23 KBSI, Paducah, KY 10/31 10:30 AM
– Fox 56 WDKY, Lexington, KY 10/31 8:30 AM
– Fox 53 WPGH, Pittsburgh, PA 10/29 8 AM
– Fox 17 KDSM, Des Moines, IA 10/29 6:30 AM; 10/27 6 AM
– ABC 45 WXLV, Greensboro, NC 10/29 6 AM

<snip>

[Drale]

1. You just know if the democrats did shit like this

to Bush, the republicans would have a fit and a bunch of people would probably be arrested, saying that they are a "threat to national security".

[judesedit]

29. A bunch of fucking liars. God bless this country if they get back in

It will be the demise of the U.S.A. They will finish the job they started in 2000 to destroy the lives of 98% of U.S. citizens and the environment. What a pity if Dems, progressives, liberals, and sane independents sit on their tails and don't vote Tuesday for the party that's the best for this country and its people, which is the Democrats at this point and time. It will be a sad day for America and the states. Look how screwed up N.J. is since they unwisely voted for a republican governor. They listened to the lies and are now paying the price. Pathetic and proof the "Dumbing Down of America" has worked and is working. And that's just the tip of the iceberg.

[tsuki]

58. The stations would not accept a Democratic equivalent. But let's

all kissey-kissey, make nice, not say anything, because that would be uncivil, and we don't want to be uncivil. Let's mealy mouth and go oh, pooh-poo.

[npk]

68. Actually the networks have no choice

They are required by federal law to run the adds. It doesn't matter if it is a democratic or republican group or how vile the attack is. These stations are powerless to prevent the ad from running. Just like the stations in DC are powerless in stopping the Abortion Ads.

[rainy]

76. not true. the networks have refused to run many moveon.org

ads.

[npk]

79. Not a paid ad

The FCC has rules that prohibit stations from refusing to run political campaign ad. Now the issue could be whether the ad is a political campaign ad or a PSA. But if it is a political ad, during a campaign season, they are required to air the ad. If they don't they can be fined by the FCC.

[mzmolly]

69. Yes, let us "listen" to these "legitimate" concerns.

:sarcasm:

[KILL THE WISE ONE]

77. reminds me of Hustler's add saying Jerry Farwell had drunken sex with his mother in an outhouse

[RUMMYisFROSTED]

101. Except this one is false.

[bigworld]

2. This group is the sleaziest of the sleazy

http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=National_Republican_Trust_PAC

It's allegedly a Dick Morris thing.

[Rosa Luxemburg]

30. Dems need to say that Repubs funded by Saudis

[nc4bo]

63. +1. Although the meaning will probably be lost on them. nt.

[Amonester]

64. Yep. How difficult is that? What's their 'excuse' for not just saying it?

I mean, over, and over, and over, and over again, now. Not AFTER the vote, but BEFORE the vote.

And it's not the only truth they should repeat, over, and over, and over again.

It's like they're soooooooo scared about what FUX no use would say.

[lunasun]

83. thanks Bill & Hill for bringing this toe sucking freak to the DC scene

although they parted long ago, they let loose a real slimeball

[karynnj]

95. I've read that Hillary was against bringing him in - so it may be that she is not to blame here

He still would have been a fixture on Fox News, but would have been seen as a partisan Republican. Not to mention, he is not the only "Democrat" Fox uses - they have Susan Estrich and Bob Bekell (sp ?) They are harder to understand, but looking at Caddell he has not liked a top Democrat since Carter.

Pat Caddell, who really was a Democrat and worked with Carter and has not seemed to like a Democrat since. (This from a few months ago shows Caddell condemning the Democrats, speaking every RW talking point - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GIG7awT4c3E ) Here he was back in September 2007, when he trashed every Democrat in the wake of the Move on Petraeas ad. (That ad was bad, but the first two people to blast the ad were John Kerry and Joe Biden ) He says HRC's campaign is like the MAFIA, a criminal operation. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JIBzmtD0tYw&feature=related He thought Guilliani was unbeatable.

Further back, he was certainly not for Kerry - saying Kerry should not fight Bush on being able to do better against terrorists, because he can't. He dismissed Democrats questioning Bush's (genuinely questionable ) NG service, but thought the SBVT should be on the Today show. It is pretty poor that he says:
"Former Democratic strategist" Caddell disparaged DNC chairman Terry McAuliffe, and then added: "I'm a Democrat, but I mean this thing on the National Guard is ludicrous." Yet he does NOT say the SBVT, who completely contradict Kerry's NAVY record of being a real war hero are ludicrous. (Could it be that Kerry is seem as a Kennedy guy?)

Add this:
"Former Democratic strategist" Caddell said of Kerry's call for the resignation of Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld in the wake of the Abu Ghraib scandal : "I don't believe this, but people would start saying he doesn't care what happens to the troops as long as he can make political hay out of it." (His little disclaimer does nothing - the message is that this was political.)

He also supported Nader and gave him $1000 against Gore. There are comments back to 1992 where he is anti -Democrat.
http://mediamatters.org/research/200409160005

[wysimdnwyg]

3. Sinclair Broadcasting

Not surprisingly, all of these stations are owned by openly right-wing Sinclair Broadcasting. This is the same group who helped make the Swift Boat Vets a household name by airing their made up "documentary" and all of their ads, ran a conservative editorial segment ("The Point") on all of their stations during the "news", and refused to air the 2004 episode of Nightline that listed the names of all of the American soldiers killed to that point in Iraq.

[JudyM]

10. There ought to be a law against this... intentionally misleading voters.

Too bad we're not likely to be able to do anything about it... need more than just a rally for sanity... i wish Dems played better defensive hardball.



:puke:

[judesedit]

33. Absolutely. The media lets them blatantly lie to us in such an important period in our history

Even though only the totally ignorant and selfish buy into it, it is still shameful that in America in 2010, crooks and liars are not exposed and actually get a pass to destroy this country. So much for Christianity. America will be steadily on the path to last place in every category if the criminal re-thugs get back in. Wake the hell up, people! Grow some backbone and brains.

[JudyM]

45. Hell, the media originates (Fox) and is a patsy echo chamber for the lies. eom

[Ahpook]

71. I get the feeling

But freedom of speech is a two headed snake?

I would just like to see these freaks obsolete. When people of this country are not buying the garbage they toss.

[karynnj]

17. Interesting - in 2004, they started a bit earlier and people knew of it before it happened

The left did succeed in getting Sinclair to change what they wanted to show to something a bit more reasonable because places like DU and Daily Kos identified the advertisers and got people to demand that their mutual funds drop those stocks - and there was dumping of the stock by people who owned it outright. This plus people calling to say that they would not buy the products caused some companies to drop their advertising on the station.

[KamaAina]

42. I knew it was gonna be Sinclair even before I looked

they're also the ones who whisked Bob Ehrlich (R-Ignominiously Defeated Anyway) around Maryland in their company helicopter while he campaigned. :eyes:

[Blue_Tires]

99. yeah, they are joined at the hip...

Ehrlich also did some favors for them while he was governor...

[mzmolly]

70. Such a lovely last name....

Sinclair.

[npk]

72. Federal law requires them to run the ad.

As long as it is a paid ad they have no choice but to air it. Not saying I like it but that is the law.

[rainy]

78. again, not true. The networks and cable refused to run moveon.org

ads.

[npk]

88. I don't know about that ad you mention

Normally the FCC requires networks to run candidate ads. I was also under the impression that PAC's were also extended that right. I don't know I could be mistaken. I still don't know why any local affiliate would run an ad this controversial if they were not required to do so. I mean I could understand Fox News running the ad, but it is surprising that an independently owned station would take this risk.

[molly77]

84. Would you even know that the WH, Senate and House are democratic?

But the country is fascist. That explains a lot of things that just don't add up anymore.

Like why you have to have 60 votes in the senate now to pass a bill. Used to be 51.

Most of the guests on the sunday morning shows are republican even though the american people voted democratic in the last election.

The obama administration is run by clintons ...who gave US NAFTA, 3 strikes and you are out, repeal of Glass-Stegall, repeal of the Fairness Doctrine, and welfare reform when there were no jobs for welfare mothers to go to.

The clintons ruined the democratic party. The bushes did the same thing for the republican party.

Our country has been looted and polluted by bushes and clintons. There are many who should be in jail for war crimes...but go unpunished because we are fascist now.

[BadgerKid]

4. Ah, hypocrisy ("...refuses to report...")

Hmm, I wonder which corporations are funding RW politics. Whatddya mean we're not allowed to know?

[Coexist]

5. VERY Rovian... Dems exposed COC secret cash, they mirror it back

its what he does.

[felinetta]

6. I am very serious. Is there any way to effectively change the narrative with or witihout WH help?

[AlinPA]

7. Incredible. Sickening. Dumbed down Americans will eat it up. nt

[avaistheone1]

31. Afraid so.

I have literally seen it happen, especially with some of our seniors.

[CLANG]

8. That should fall under sedition laws.

[demi moore]

9. oh my golly

obama is secret terrorist plant ready to kill everybody.

im scared.. im so scared i feel.. terrorized.

[Downwinder]

11. Brought to you by the Saudi funded network.

[Iliyah]

12. Yes fake news

has strong ties with SA, but their viewers are too brainwashed to know it.

[totodeinhere]

39. You are talking about Fox News. Those infomercials did not run on Fox News,

but rather on Fox Broadcast.

[Matariki]

13. If Jeb Bush runs I want to see ads suggesting he's funded by Drug Cartels.

because it's probably true.

[matt819]

14. This is the reason Jon Stewart wasted his time on Saturday

Okay, okay, don't get me wrong. I like Jon Stewart, and I thought his closing speech was fine. And I would bet that I share the views of most of the 200,000-plus who were there. Plus I loved the signs.

But Olbermann's right. We are so far past the point of reasoned debate and civil argument, it's really not funny.

You try to fight lies with truth. You try to fight lies with comedy. You try to fight hate with the kind of comments that Lauren Valle made the other day about having her head stomped on. But these are professional haters, accomplished liars, dyed-in-the-wool homophobes.

These are people who believe in creationism and have no problem with global climate change. These are people who have no problem beating up peaceful political protesters.

These are people who shoot you and beat you and then demand an apology from you for getting in the way. These are people who are convinced that every Hispanic is a drug-running mule, or worse.

These are people who are more compelled to support the minority of under-appreciated billionaires (credit to Jim Hightower for the reference) to the tune of billions of dollars and then wring every penny they can from food stamps and school lunch programs.

These are people who believe the president is a foreign-born Muslim. These are people who handcuff reporters in public places who don't share their political views.

These are people who readily - eagerly, happily, and without any reservation - hold of the option of "second amendment" remedies or violent overthrow if they don't get their way.

These are people who, whether the believe it or not, run on platforms of anti-conservative voter fraud despite evidence to the contrary. These are people who, when confronted by the truth - let's see, ACORN and Shirley Sherrod come to mind - dismiss it and move on. No apology, no acknowledgement of wrongdoing.

These are people - elected officials, mind you - who have publicly stated that their goal in the next two years, regardless of the outcome of the election, is to destroy the president, their constituents be damned.

These are people who have vowed not merely to modify legislation that has been passed in the past two years but to undo everything - to spend their time destroying rather than building.

These so-called strict constitutionalists don't have the first clue what's in it. O'Donnell: You mean separation of church and state is in the first amendment? They are simpletons, half-wits. I wouldn't want a simpleton to mow my lawn, much less vote on legislation. These so-called strict constitutionalists have vowed to undue parts of their much-beloved Constitution. That's dedication, all right.

And speaking of separation of church and state, that doesn't exist in the world of the extreme right. What religion do they want? Who the hell knows, but it sure isn't mine.

These people have already set about rewriting our national history, offering a more Christian-friendly approach. So much from that separation thing.

These are savages who rely on fear, hate, and lies. And not one of their kind among them has the integrity, the simple human decency, to stand up and say, "no more."

And these are people we are supposed to negotiate with? These are the people whom the president has endeavored to cross the aisle to work with?

That train has left the station. That horse is out of the barn. That dog won't hunt.

[abq e streeter]

23. You nailed it...sad but true

[Doctor_J]

50. No shit. And many DUers want to fight this by being nicer

We are battling subhuman filth who must be destroyed - every last one of them.

[TxVietVet]

89. AMEN!

[skyounkin]

15. This is what bipartisianship gets you...

[cliffordu]

37. Asinine bullshit.

Complete utter bullshit.

[JohnWxy]

16. Obama is Fox's Jew. Ignorance uber alles!!

recommended.

[McCamy Taylor]

18. Totally predictable. Remember the scene in "V for Vendetta" where the young girl tells her family

that the story on the news is fake? The GOP wasted its money with this one. The real news this week was that the US and its allies disrupted an Al Qaeda bombing plot almost certainly intended to scare Americans and help the Big Oil friendly GOP in the polls. Because Al Qaeada is just a political action wing of Saudi Arabia and the GOP.

I do not think that anyone who does not already believe this will be fooled by it. Americans get tired of the same old propaganda. They like something new to fuel their imaginations.

FOX should have spent its money telling Americans that Obama ate their jobs. That is what they care about right now.

[madrchsod]

27. agree..it`s going to be a cold hearted winter here in the north..

the shelters will be filled with the new homeless that can`t pay to keep the heat on.


every week here in ronnie land another 4-6 homes are foreclosed.

[asjr]

19. Surely something can be done to stop this. In my

mind this is tantamount to treason.

[felix_numinous]

20. The sanity rally was an innoculation

against propaganda, by being the exact opposite of what they are trying to do. We have to assert our collective SANITY to reaffirm our immunity to that crap!!!

When we are on constant 24 hour verbal assault by the RW media monsters, we need to take our medicine of humor and satire.

I can't wait till tomorrow!! :D

[GoddessOfGuinness]

21. Maybe...Still, it'd be great to put out an ad that says

"And if you buy FAUX snooze, let me sell you some ocean front property in Wyoming."

[felix_numinous]

91. Good one!

:thumbsup:

[katty]

22. geezus, they are a desperate bunch! leftist revolutionaries?!

WHERE are they?! Sign me up! I would welcome some kick ass change! however, the only faux radicals I see are spouting overthrow of government with zero alternatives on faux news.

[No Elephants]

24. Fox is confident Americans are dumb as posts and bigoted as Nazis.

(Yes, a Nazi reference. Deal with it.)

[npk]

74. Fox had nothing to do with the ad

They are required by law to run the paid ad. The reason it is airing on so many Fox stations has more to do with Fox having a slightly higher audience amongst certain demographics and an audience that trends slightly conservative. ABC is also airing the ad. Fox affiliates are operated independently of Fox News. Believe it or not their are some markets around the country where Fox networks are more liberal than CBS or ABC stations.

[ThoughtCriminal]

85. Required? - Not true

"They are required by law to run the paid ad"
Stations CAN and DO refuse to run political ads:

http://www.google.com/search?source=ig&hl=en&rlz=1G1ACAW_ENUS343&q=station+refuses+to+run+ad&btnG=Google+Search&aq=f&oq=

More:

http://www.google.com/search?source=ig&hl=en&rlz=1G1ACAW_ENUS343&q=station+refuses+to+run+ad&btnG=Google+Search&aq=f&oq=#hl=en&expIds=25657,25907,25982,26637,27100,27102,27113,27219,27284,27356&sugexp=ldymls&xhr=t&q=stations+reject+ad&cp=18&qe=c3RhdGlvbnMgcmVqZWN0IGFk&qesig=PeOJC2SwsFk0N8tEI8fL8g&pkc=AFgZ2tmkFqHoUGh8pQHKgN294ZPcZTBgVbv2eDQesssXYPq56Lmeqcvrp9LpOk5sZDVfmIuYQrRbUwT6tOJ5XUwMl1TmVgcxfg&pf=p&sclient=psy&safe=off&rlz=1G1ACAW_ENUS343&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&oq=stations+reject+ad&gs_rfai=&pbx=1&fp=ddfbf15c2e2f4021

More:
http://www.factcheck.org/specialreports/false_ads_there_oughta_be_a_law.html

Stations can reject ads for any reason from political groups other than candidates. And they may reject ads from all candidates for a given office. But if they take ads from one candidate, they can't legally refuse ads from opponents except for technical reasons (such as being too long or short to fit standard commercial breaks, or if the recording quality is poor) or if they are "obscene." Rejecting a candidate's ad because it's false is simply not allowed.
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Since this is not a candidate's ad, they can refuse it. Since it is Sinclair, you can bet they don't give a shit.

[npk]

86. You may be right if this is not a candidate

I will stand to be corrected. I believe this is a PAC or a financial trust. So in that regard you may be right. This is odd that Fox affiliate not Fox News would accept this ad unless they were legally required to do so. Normally stations precede the ad with a notice that the ad does not reflect the stations views and that the station is not endorsing the ad or candidate. I will side with you on this. I was under the impression this PAC was representing a candidate for office.

[Jefferson23]

25. FEAR is still their main weapon, sad how many are still so gullible. n/t

[DFW]

26. And this was my response on Raw Story:

This filth has far-reaching consequences. Short-term effect, yes, there are plenty uneducated people in stats where this airs, whose votes will be influenced by such a broadcast--probably ten who believe it for every one who recognizes it for the garbage it is. But this is only the immediate effect.

The fact is, EVERY major country in the world is watching these broadcasts, and sending them back home for their leadership to see what is making America tick. Economic and/or military allies, partners, neutrals, opponents and outright enemies are watching what we let be our influences. China, Germany, India, England, Russia, France, Canada, Brazil, Indonesia, Australia, the list goes on and on.

The more we let ourselves be identified with this kind of trash, and the more we allow our electorate to be swayed by it, the less likely our reliability, our currency, and our ability to be a dependable partner in matters military and economic will be trusted. We will turn out to be just one more has been, like every large, influential political entity on this earth has been from the Roman Empire to the British Empire, as well as smaller entities such as the Soviet Union. Voices of reason are slowly drowned and ignorance rises to the top to preside over the decline and fall of the once-great country. If we let the moneyed extremist right do the same to us, our fate will mirror that of every once-influential country that has gone before us.

[madrchsod]

28. well said.

[Doctor_J]

51. What do you mean by your last line?

If we let the moneyed extremist right do the same to us, our fate will mirror that of every once-influential country that has gone before us.

What's the alternative?

[DFW]

92. The alternative is simple

Repeal Citizens United and pass laws mandating equal public funding both parties with decade-long prison sentences, strictly enforced, for any organization or individual trying to circumvent them.

The fact that such legislation stands a snowball's chance in Hell does not negate the fact that there is practically nothing else that can restore democracy in our country.

[pinto]

32. Echos of the Swift Boaters, as well -

"It is unclear if National Republican Trust coordinates with the Republican Party or other conservative groups. Marc Morano, a Swift-Boat operative who has helped coordinate the Heritage Foundation, Republican lawmakers, and polluter lobbyists, is one of the registered agents for the National Republican Trust. The organization is registered to a UPS drop box on M Street in Washington DC."

[defendandprotect]

41. T-Baggers, Switboaters ... Christian Coalition ... all run by same RW money -- Same Wiz of OZ!!

[socialist_n_TN]

34. Well, one small glimmer of positive about this........

is that, if it's running on Fox stations, it's probably preaching to the choir. These are people who did NOT vote for Obama and never will.

As another poster said, where the Hell ARE all these leftist revolutionaries??? If they are out there, I'd actually have a little hope for this country.

[KamaAina]

48. Regular people watch Fox stations, too

they have football, The Simpsons, Glee, etc.

[abelenkpe]

35. This country is toast

I cannot believe that is legal and permitted. I'm outraged, and tired of being outraged.

[BREMPRO]

36. just preaching to the converted- fox viewers are already beyond hope to change

they have been so indoctrinated with these "socialist/marxist/palling with terrorists" warped parallel universe myths, they wouldn't recognize the truth if it hit them in the face. This kind of crap is now going to be common with the citizen united decision. I doubt it would change any minds for elections, but it might unleash the radical right fringe to violence. I would argue THIS is terrorism. That the RNC funds and encourages sedition and TERRORISM.

[totodeinhere]

38. I think you are confusing Fox News viewers with viewers of the Fox Broadcast Network.

They are two different groups. Fox Broadcast viewers actually trend toward the younger viewer demographic with shows like American Idol and Glee.

[happyslug]

52. You are forgetting Goebbels view on propaganda

Get people to watch the show FIRST, the propaganda message is inside the show, an important part of the show, but never interferes with the show. Goebbels when he was first made director of Propaganda for Hitler, let the Movie makers make a propaganda show for him, it showed a young boy dying for Hitler. Goebbels watched that show and threatened to fire everyone associated with it. The movie violated all of his views on propaganda. Goebbels then told the movie makers what he wanted. Goebbels wanted shows young people would watch, young men would take their dates to. Light fair was his first choice. The Nazi message was mixed in with the rest of the movie. Jews were shown in bad light i.e. evil and wicked people. Germans were shown as Victims of the Jews (Jews became a stable of Nazi era movies bad men, much like Nazis have become the preferred bad men of the post war era). None of this message was ever so heavy handed as to turn people off from watching the movie.

Stalin gave Propaganda a bad name. Stalin had many good points, the top British General made the observation that of all of the top politician and military leaders of WWII, Stalin had the best view as to strategic military capability (Better then Churchill and Roosevelt). Stalin was a master of details, when he went into a factory he knew what they produced, how it was produced and may even make some comments on how to improve what was being produced. Stalin even acknowledge this by his infamous quote that if he had Hollywood he could rule the world (Stalin knew good propaganda when he saw it, just did not know how to make it, he observed that Hollywood did know how).

On the other hand Stalin did not understand propaganda at all. This was his greatest weakness. Hitler once had Goebbels over to watch some Soviet Propaganda films and they both had a good laugh at how bad Soviet propaganda under Stalin was. This was Hitler's and Goebbels strength. Both understood propaganda (Even importing in experts from Madison Avenue in New York City to give them some points as to how to sell something). The first problem with any propaganda is to get people to look at it. Thus the need that the story be entertaining. The Second message is that the propaganda message be internalized as opposed to being just "monthed". To make sure this was happening, Goebbels would interview people before and after they left a movie to see how their attitude had changed do to seeing the movie. If the Nazi message was being internalized, the movie was viewed as a big success, if the message was NOT being internalized the movie was pulled.

Goebbels supposedly made the comment the best propaganda movie he ever saw was "Casablanca". Most people do not consider "Casablanca" a Propaganda movie, but Goebbels viewed it as one. Next time you watch it, look for the propaganda messages. We all must fight the Nazis, we all must work together, we all must sacrifice.

The need to sacrifice was shown when the girl goes with her husband instead of "Rick" that was her sacrifice for the cause, "Rick" gave up the girl for the Cause, even the French Police Chief sacrifices, he gives up his nice safe position to fight the Nazis). Earlier you saw the waiter running away from the police, barely getting away when the police, under Nazi domination, had broke up a Resistance meeting. We all have to deal with evil people in that fight, but the main thrust is to defeat the Nazis, other fights will come later. Overall a very entertaining movie, but the propaganda message is also clear, but does NOT get in the way of the story.

I bring this up, for Fox is committed to its overall message, right wing propaganda. The first step is to get people to watch the show that has the message. When Fox first stated, it wanted viewers more then anything else, thus was very innovative, "In Living Color", the "Simpsons" and "Married with Children" are three of its early hits. None of them can be viewed as Right wing, but at that time getting people to watch Fox was more important then the over all propaganda message. Today, Fox is no longer a low rated new network, it is on par with the "Big Three". CBS, NBC and ABC. Thus it can now propagandize to its viewers. Fox no longer needs a "In Living Color", the "Simpsons" or a "Married with Children" (Two of the three are now gone, and the remainder, "The Simpsons" have not been cutting edge for years) to get people to watch, it is viewed as an option with the "big three" and the rest of the Cable Channels.

I bring this up, for Fox is willing to sacrifice some of its message to get people to watch its shows, just so that those same people are exposed to Fox's message (Which is economic Right Wing, not Social Right wing i.e. Murdoch, the owner of Fox, cares less of morals, abortion etc, all he cares about is how people view economics and Fox will show anything to reinforce its message that the rich should be protected even if that means the poor must suffer. Sex is A-OK with Murdoch/Fox, for Sex does NOT interfere with who gets taxed and it is taxes that fox is most concerned about.

Thus Fox is following Goebbels view on propaganda, the first duty is to get people to watch the show. Once people are watching, then you can hit them with the message you want them to hear. Thus Fox-TV is an important part of Fox news and its propaganda mission.

[Blue_Tires]

100. excellent points

[defendandprotect]

40. ... but that couldn't be fascism, by any chance ... !! Sounds like they're pulling out ALL stops!!

In any and every opportunity, given the high road or low road --

right wing will take the LOWEST road!!

[RoccoR5955]

43. A lot of people are dumb enough to believe this fecal matter.

When Reagan started dumbing us down, by getting rid of the Fairness Doctrine, this garbage started. It is coming to a head now, and things could get REAL ugly soon.

[DesertFlower]

44. lying bastards. nt

[YankeeLeft7x]

46. This is TRAITOROUS ACTIVITY!!!!!!!

I am not joking--someone needs to be charged with a CRIME here of SEDITION and being a TRAITOR to SUGGEST and CLAIM This Shit!!!!

In my eyes, this is not about "free speech" any longer.

[proud patriot]

98. +1

:grr:

[YankeeLeft7x]

47. Entire FOX "News" Personnel are TRAITORS and SCUMBAGS

Rupert Murdoch and his minions should ALL BE CHARGED WITH SEDITION AND BEING TRAITORS TO AMERICA WITH THIS CRAPOLA AND WHAT THEY ARE DOING TO THIS COUNTRY WITH THIS RUBBISH OF LIES AND SLANDER.

It is time to call every last FOX "News" worker a TRAITOR and SCUMBAG!!!!

These jackoffs DESERVE ZERO RESPECT!!!! NONE--NADA---Not one FOX "NEWS" Person DESERVES any "RESPECT" but loads and loads of LOATHING and CONTEMPT!!!!

These right wing jackoffs are the lowest life forms on EARTH!!!

And, Yes Bill-O This "awful liberal" thinks you Sir, are not a "Patriot" but a freakin TRAITOR and COWARD and PUNK-Ass! That's right Bill-O and you can tell your punk-ass pal Sean Hannity I think he is another TRAITOR and COWARD too. I will even go on your show and tell ya this to you as well.

[droidamus2]

49. Far too extreme for Americans to accept?

These asses can kiss mine. Who the hell do they think they are deciding who is really American and who isn't. I am a staunch liberal and I challenge any conservative to prove they love this country and supports what it stands for more than I do. I am an American and I truly believe that the progressive/liberal philosophy is the only way that will lead us to a bigger and brighter tomorrow. Does that mean reasonable (is it possible) conservatives don't have some decent ideas? Of course not, but until we get away from this my way or no way attitude I don't know what we can really do to address this countries problems. Conservatives are American, liberals are Americans, Evangelists are American, Gays are American screw this idea that some are more American than others or some are 'American' and some are not. From what I read of the most avid 'Conservative thinking' they don't support 'this country' they support their own sorry asses and them and theirs acquiring all the wealth they can while the rest of us suffer. I think Stewart/Colbert were right until the middle takes over and we get some reasonable governance and media we in trouble of going the way of Rome or the British Empire.

[Initech]

53. The Fux Propaganda network doesn't know when things go too far do they?

[Doctor_J]

56. What do you mean? Have they ever done anything that backfired?

:shrug:

[Initech]

61. No but this definitely crossed a line that should not have been crossed.

[Doctor_J]

66. Why? Please tell me the repercussions they will suffer

I am dying to know

[Initech]

80. They're basically saying Obama is a terrorist when they don['t have any reason to!

[Doctor_J]

82. I know what they're doing. Tell me what price they will pay for "crossing the line"

please answer this time.

[Deep13]

54. Hamas? He was funded by chick pea dip?

Got nothing? No problem. Feel free to make shit up!

[yurbud]

57. it is so good on a piece of PETA.

[PJPhreak]

55. Awww,Fer Fucks Sake!!

When are we (The Democratic Party) gonna stop taking this shit?

I'm really tired of the "Touchy-Feeley,Can't we just get Along" Garbage!!

The Reason we scared the crap outta TPTB back in the 60's is because the "Establishment" saw us as a real threat!

Nowadays they see us as Latte Sippin,BMW/Volvo Drivin,New Age Wimps...No Threat at all!

I,for one think its time to give them a "Big-Block Chevy" Ass Kicking!!

Ok Pubbys...Step in front of this "Rat"!!



No at the moment I'm not feeling "Politically Correct"

[savalez]

62. We have two fighters - Ed Schultz and Keith O.

Too bad John Stewart wants them to stand down so much he put them on his wacko reel.

[TxVietVet]

59. The conservanazis will do anything to destroy what democracy we have left.

If they get back into power,shame on thisn country. Shame on progressives, shame on minorities, and shame on union memebers, especially if YOU DID NOT VOTE.

I say, let them finish fucking this country up. They were tying hard when they lost control of the Senate and the House.

MSM is saying it's going to be a big win for the teabaggin' kkkluckers.

I don't believe it.

[Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin]

60. So why is the MSM silent on this?

[NewJeffCT]

65. I thought the Chamber of Commerce was funded by Hamas & Al Qaeda

at least that is what we need to assume since they won't disclose.

[mzmolly]

67. Which brings us back to issue that one can't honestly compare Fox and MSNBC/Democrats and Republics

UGH.

[ishaneferguson]

73. If Hamas, Hezbollah, AlQaida, or the Taliban are funding

an election campaign, they are funding the campaign for Proposition 23 in California to stall clean energy research and keep us ever more dependent on imported oil. This is what THEY are funding -- dirty air, no research, and ever increasing oil imports from troubled areas:

• http://www.opposingviews.com/i/why-california-s-prop-23-is-essential-to-economy">Why California's Prop 23 is Essential to the Economy
  
• http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/california-politics/2010/10/prop-23-ab-32-oil-companies-valero.html">Los Angeles Times, Why did Valero launch Prop. 23?
  
• http://suspendab32.org/">Yes on 23 - Jobs First
  
• http://www.yeson23.com/">Yes On 23 - California Jobs Initiative

[defendandprotect]

75. Where's the FEC--? Is there no one any longer monitoring this stuff? ....

What about a source for this?

One reason

might

be that some of it originated from the terrorist group Hamas, which also endorsed Obama.”

That's a pretty big MIGHT!!!

[Dinger]

81. Maybe The Secret Service Should Be On This?

This kids of shit scares me.

[HowHasItComeToThis]

87. OUR MEDIA PROPAGANDISTS HAVE GONE PAST THE LIMIT

[tpsbmam]

90. Time to put libel laws to work. WTF -- why let these assholes get away

with this crap? Go after them. Yeah, I'm sure the shit-for-brains crowd would have a fit, but damn -- how far do you let the lies go with absolute impunity? It's damaging to our country.

[Deep13]

93. +1

[lonestarnot]

94. What he said!

[wordpix]

97. +2 or we could just sit around & let Sarah take over in '12

[wordpix]

96. it's time for a lawsuit for slander and defamation of character, IMO

Stop playing dead and DO something about it.

If someone ran an ad linking me to undesirables I've never met, I would throw it right back at 'em.

[nolabear]

102. HERE IS THE DOCUMENTARY

Part I

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2BGoqn-OJTg

Part II

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O5tpTcUYsxk

Part III

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5-GWZ6JzjHM

I'm posting before I watch, so will comment later.

(Edited to add Part III)

[Supersedeas]

103. Sinclair at it again?