Iranian woman to be hanged Wednesday - rights group

[JCMach1]

Source: Gulf News

An Iranian woman whose sentence of execution by stoning for adultery provoked a worldwide outcry will instead be hanged for murder on Wednesday, a human rights group said.

"The authorities in Tehran have given the go-ahead to Tabriz prison for the execution of Iran stoning case Sakineh Mohammadi Ashtiani," the International Committee against Stoning, a German-based campaign group, said on its website.

"It has been reported that she is to be executed this Wednesday, 3 November."

Officials in Iran were not available to confirm or deny the report.

Ashtiani's stoning sentence was suspended after prominent political and religious figures called it "medieval", "barbaric" and "brutal". Brazil, a close ally of Iran's, offered to give the 43-year-old mother of two asylum...

Read more: http://gulfnews.com/news/region/iran/iranian-woman-to-be-hanged-wednesday-rights-group-1.705529

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[madmax]

1. The death penalty

and what can the US say? Nothing, we're no better.

[leftynyc]

14. Really?

You see no difference between being strapped down to a table and drugs being administered to being put in a hole up to your chest and having people heave stones and rocks at you until you're dead? Seriously? For adultery? Or perhaps for being gay? Your cultural relativism is pretty sickening.

[madmax]

24. She's being hanged. Not stoned.

No matter the manner injected, electric chair, gas chamber, hanging, marksmen. DEAD is DEAD decided by a fallible human being. Chill.

[leftynyc]

28. Fine - conceded

But this is for ADULTERY. Comparing that to the US is dishonest.

[happyslug]

33. This is for MURDER

She was convicted of TWO Crimes, ADULTERY and MURDER. The Court held that she was involved with her lovers killing of her husband. Thus she is being hanged for Murder.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sakineh_Mohammadi_Ashtiani

On other DU threads:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=102&topic_id=4571488&mesg_id=4571942

[leftynyc]

37. Bullshit

They just want to kill her:

Ms. Ashtiani was convicted of adultery in 2006, but the murder accusation was disclosed only in August 2010 - after her case drew international condemnation - in an apparent effort to suggest that she was guilty of a more serious crime. After the stoning sentence was lifted there were signs she would be executed by hanging instead.

[The Stranger]

40. Bullshit to your bullshit.

It is murder. Your dislike for Iran doesn't justify denying that she was convicted of murder and is being executed.

Which is interesting, since the U.S. puts far, far more people to death than does Iran, and more and more these people are being exonerated.

[leftynyc]

41. Why didn't they charge

her until August 2010? They just want to kill her and for some reason you're defending it. In your pathetic attempt to compare the US to Iran you are ignoring the truth.

[murdoch]

44. What you say makes absolutely no sense

Her husband was dead in 2010. Her husband was murdered before the trial. She was having an affair with the man who murdered her husband. In 2010, her husband had already been dead for years. Her lover had been tried for the murder back then.

What are you saying, they had a time machine or something?

[xor]

34. Isn't there also something about a murder?

I said the same you did to someone and they showed me something about her also being charged with murder. It seemed like BS to me though. I feel bad for this woman.

[leftynyc]

39. Posted below but here it is again

Ms. Ashtiani was convicted of adultery in 2006, but the murder accusation was disclosed only in August 2010 - after her case drew international condemnation - in an apparent effort to suggest that she was guilty of a more serious crime. After the stoning sentence was lifted there were signs she would be executed by hanging instead.

[awoke_in_2003]

36. give it time...

we are being taken over by theocrats, and ALL the Abrahamic religions are misogynist at their core. Not much separating Christianity and Islam.

[leftynyc]

38. Do let me know when

someone is even charged with adultery let alone given the death penalty for it. Until that happens, your hair-on-fire comparisons are quite boring.

[xor]

46. Ennh, I doubt we'll regress that far back though.

I don't doubt for a minute that we could given enough time. We'd probably need a few generations of total fundie crazies in charge though. Not because Christianity is a less screwed up religion, but because our culture would have regress a lot to have that become accepted norms. At least that's my take on it.

[Socal31]

35. Dear Gawd....

If you can't see the difference, I feel sorry for you.

[thereismore]

2. Jesus Christ this never stops. Theocrats of all stripes make me sick. nt

[ZombieHorde]

29. How many theocracies are left in the world? nt

[Warpy]

3. It's my understanding that the death sentence was for the murder

of her husband. The method--stoning--was for the adultery she committed with the guy who did it.

A hallmark of civilization should be the lack of a death penalty, something my wild west state finally achieved last year.

However, it's significant that Iran bowed to world pressure and opted for barbarity instead of outright savagery.

[pjt7]

4. If this lady slept w/ another man

& killed her husband & our US media is making a b.s. story....

[Warpy]

5. Have they ever told the whole story here?

I read about the case months ago on the BBC. You can't rely on US media for anything but sports scores.

[sharp_stick]

6. In Iran it's 6 one way 1/2 dozen the other

A death by hanging would be pretty much as bad as stoning would be. They torture the prisoners with suspension hanging instead of long drop.

Theocratic assholes the bunch of them, I really hope this doesn't go forward.

[LeftishBrit]

11. As I understand...

she was originally acquitted of murder. It appears that someone else committed the murder (and was pardoned by the family, so not executed) and the question is not whether she was the main perpetrator, but whether she was an accomplice. At any rate, she was acquitted; and then was tried and convicted of adultery in order to still get a death sentence.

Recently, she apparently confessed on Iranian television to the murder and adultery, but it is believed that the 'confession' was obtained as a result of duress, i.e. torture.

At the very least, there are a lot of question marks about her guilt.

[FedUpWithIt All]

32. She had recieved lashes for the adultery charge already.

According to the NYT

Ms. Ashtiani was convicted of adultery in 2006, but the murder accusation was disclosed only in August 2010 - after her case drew international condemnation - in an apparent effort to suggest that she was guilty of a more serious crime. After the stoning sentence was lifted there were signs she would be executed by hanging instead.

http://topics.nytimes.com/top/reference/timestopics/people/a/sakineh_mohammadi_ashtiani/index.html

Her son has been arrested and possibly tortured for speaking out against the murder sentence. Also arrested were Ms. Ashanti's attorney and two German reporters.

http://www.thaindian.com/newsportal/world-news/son-and-lawyer-of-condemned-woman-tortured-in-iran_100451547.html

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/oct/11/german-journalists-detained-iran-stoning

Secretary Clinton: November 2010 » Case of Sakineh Mohammadi Ashtiani
Case of Sakineh Mohammadi Ashtiani

Hillary Rodham Clinton
Secretary of State
Washington, DC
November 2, 2010

I am deeply troubled by reports that Iranian authorities are finalizing plans to execute Sakineh Mohammadi Ashtiani. Iran’s leaders have failed once again to protect the fundamental rights of their own citizens, particularly women. Ms. Ashtiani’s case has not proceeded with the transparency and due process guaranteed under Iranian law, and we are concerned about reports of coerced confessions and other mistreatment. The United States joins the international community in calling for Iran to immediately halt any plans for Ms. Ashtiani’s execution and to handle her case with utmost transparency.

http://www.state.gov/secretary/rm/2010/11/150329.htm

[pettypace]

26. I am revising your definition

The hallmark of civilization would be the lack of people murdering other people.

Seeing that that will never happen, the punishment for a killing another person or persons should be severe.

[marasinghe]

31. and allow me to revise yours ....

the hallmark of an ideal civilization would be a total lack of any intelligent being killing any living thing, human, animal, insect, whatever, except in self-defense at the moment of danger - not later, in revenge or retribution.

but, seeing that will never happen, some of us can, at the very least, condemn this manner of barbarity - whether the lady was guilty of conspiring in the murder of her husband, or not.

just as, one can condemn the barbarity of using aerial bombardments, white phosphorus, & other niceties of western civilization, to smash another ancient civilization, mesopotamia, into total anarchy - for a chance at plundering their natural resources.

[alanquatermass]

42. The U.S. is the most barbaric country in the world!!!

Half a million dead Iraqis can't be wrong!

[murdoch]

43. Yes, she planned her husband's murder with her lover

She conspired with her lover to kill her husband and he did so.

You can be executed for this in the USA as well. Thanks for mentioning it, many, many account deliberately do not mention this, for obvious reasons, it is about Iran-bashing.

The US has no diplomatic relations with Iran so what effect can people have with this? Nothing. The US overthrew secular Iranian democracy in the 1950s, and it has not been back since, the current Iranians are unhappy that this happened.

Dozens of people are executed in Texas every year. Why all the interest in this case, other than it is in Iran? The US doesn't even have diplomatic relations with Iran, so the US has little to say about the fate of this murderer with her husband's blood on her hands.

[rug]

7. There's the problem with incrementalism in a nutshell.

[BigD_95]

8. I havent followed this story

but If this lady slept w/ another man & killed her husband then why would there be a out cry if she is hung?

Dont get me wrong Im against the death penalty for the most part. But here in the states people get the death penalty for murder? Whats the difference? Because she is being hung? I think anyway to go cruel. but we cant be telling other countries how to kill....can we?

[leftynyc]

16. Because she was acquitted of murder

charges and convicted of adultery which also carries the death penalty. It's only those who want to minimize this disgusting display that try and confuse the issue.

P.S. Paintings are hung, people are hanged.

[crim son]

20. Please watch the movie, or just the last half hour of

"The Stoning of Soraya M" and then tell me you still don't get it. I'm against the death penalty, period, but stoning is not something you can quite understand until you see it done. It is beyond barbaric.

[madmax]

25. My point exactly.

Don't we hold the title for executions or is it just Texas. :(

[valerief]

9. The friggin Dark Ages over there. The light of knowledge is dimming fast here, too. nt

[slackmaster]

10. Yuk

:puke:

[LeftishBrit]

12. Here's a link to a petition that people can sign

http://www.avaaz.org/en/24h_to_save_sakineh/?cl=817236483&v=7488

[leftynyc]

13. Fucking barbarians

I'm against the death penalty here also but stoning?!! Can't these motherfuckers get out of the dark ages already?

[burnsei sensei]

15. They won't move out of the Dark Ages

if they think it's a more secure place than where we are.
The need for "security" has prompted much of the world's injustice.
Injustice is also the hallmark of a legal system in which the law is based on fear, not on reason.

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[Beacool]

18. And pray tell, where are you from?

Is your country so very perfect?

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[DFW]

19. Go to Iran and call them Arabs, and you might get a taste of their justice

Wherever you are from, you obviously don't know that over 90% of the people on this site do not support
the death penalty anywhere, including in our own country. Maybe you come from a country where there is no
dissent without violent suppression--we deplore the steps the radical right is taking to get us there, but
we're not quite there yet.

As for the Iranians, they must think they're Texans, or something.........

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[burnsei sensei]

27. Iranians are most correctly called

Persians.
You remember them: Cyrus, Darius, the Sassanids etc.
In the history of the world, the Persians are quite important.
Arabs? No. Not ever.

[murdoch]

45. The US overthrew secular democracy in Iran in the 1950s...

Americans, who overthrew their modern democratic society are the barbarians.

[WinkyDink]

47. We installed the Shah, yes, but he wasn't a theocrat.

[ZombieHorde]

30. How nice it must be to have God agree with your every opinion.

One can act with absolute certainty when one is acting according to the will of God.