Bush Considered Dropping Cheney From 2004 Ticket

[RamboLiberal]

Source: NY Times

President George W. Bush considered dumping Vice President Dick Cheney from his 2004 reelection ticket to dispel the myths about Mr. Cheney’s power in the White House and “demonstrate that I was in charge,” the former president says in a new memoir.

The idea came from Mr. Cheney, who offered to drop out of the race one day during a private lunch between the two men in mid-2003. “I did consider the offer,” Mr. Bush writes, and spent several weeks exploring the possibility of replacing Mr. Cheney with Senator Bill Frist of Tennessee, the majority leader, before opting against the switch.

“While Dick helped with important parts of our base, he had become a lightning rod for criticism from the media and the left,” Mr. Bush writes. “He was seen as dark and heartless – the Darth Vader of the administration.” The president resented the caricature that Mr. Cheney really controlled the White House. “Accepting Dick’s offer would be one way to demonstrate that I was in charge,” he writes.

But in the end, Mr. Bush writes, “the more I thought about it, the more strongly I felt Dick should stay. I hadn’t picked him to be a political asset; I had chosen him to help me do the job. That was exactly what he had done.” Mr. Bush wrote that he trusted Mr. Cheney, valued his steadiness and considered him a good friend. So, “at one of our lunches a few weeks later, I asked Dick to stay and he agreed.”



Read more: http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2010/11/02/bush-considered-dropping-cheney-from-2004-ticket/?hp

[Drale]

1. I still think

Bush was just a puppet, to Rove, Cheney and the other evil people at the top of the republican party.

[zbdent]

22. Bush43 "just a puppet" ... hmm ...

when the guy who controls you says "Hey, let's make it look like I'm not controlling you. Drop me from the ticket."

shortly followed by Cheney realizing that Bush might actually accidentally do it, and changed GWB's mind.

[bigworld]

52. And I think he's now beginning to realize it.

[beyurslf]

2. Oh sure like Cheney and Rove would have ever let him drop the VP :)

[savalez]

18. lol!

As if CHENEY would have let him drop Cheney!

[Lint Head]

3. My bull dung meter just went off the charts.

The only reason this is in Bush's book of fiction is to make him look more presidential
Cheney could give a rats ass if GW lies about his administration

He should know. He is a rat.

[Sal Minella]

7. "I was in charge." Dubya is actually hoping someone is naive

enough to believe Cheney and Rove allowed him to have any say-so at all as president.

Remember Alexander Haig: "I'm in charge here."

What is it with these guys.

[Blasphemer]

19. No kidding. Every leak from this "memoir" reads like fiction... nt

[Sal Minella]

4. "I'm offering to resign but of course you will not accept my offer, because

if you DID accept my offer, your lifeless body would be dredged up from the Potomac where it sank to the bottom because of all the birdshot in it. Do you understand?"

[laconicsax]

5. "Hey George, you should drop me from the ticket to prove that you run the show."

:rofl:

[Octafish]

6. ''The idea came from Mr. Cheney...''

LOL. No duh.

[frylock]

8. it's cute how bush still thinks he was running things

[dbt]

9. There's no way in HELL that bu$h wrote those sentences.

We all heard that worthless little fuck mangle the English language for eight horrible years. Those words in the article are WAY too coherent to be his.

[valerief]

10. Yeah, that and the gun to his head convinced him to keep Cheney.

:rofl:

[tularetom]

11. This book may actually be worth reading

just to laugh at all the bullshit that appears to be in it. If this crock of crap is any example it should be ROFLMAO funny.

I sure as hell don't want to pay anything for it so I'll just wait until it shows up in the 99 cent bin or at the dollar store.

Shouldn't take too long.

[RamboLiberal]

15. I might just read it for free at B&N

Might be fun to skim!

[bongbong]

12. It's Fantasyland 24x7 for repigs

Everything the repigs swallow is lies now. The endless hate-radio and endless lies in the MSM, not to mention the endless violence today on Election Day.

With the Citizens United decision, the USA is destined to become a joke. A sad, pathetic, dirt-poor, but armed and dangerous joke.

[marmar]

13. But then Cheney had a talk with him......

[tomm2thumbs]

14. 'Accepting Dick’s offer would be one way to demonstrate that I was in charge' -LOL

that phrase alone shows what level of brain functioning we are talking about with Bush

[onehandle]

16. Lie. nt

[elleng]

17. NOW THEY TELL US!!!

:mad:

:rofl:

[beac]

20. What an unmitigated load of horse manure.

The more likely story is that Uncle Dick offered him this story for his memoir after Shrubby whined and whined about how he didn't really have anything to write b/c he was never allowed to do anything.

[rpannier]

21. I didn't know the figure head could drop the leader

Kind of like the puppet saying he thought about getting rid of the puppet master

[bluesmail]

23. Who's behind the curtain pulling the puppet's strings?

I don't think I want to know. Because. I am really scared of those people(s). If they are. People that is. I'm going to start with four smillies today, I'm going with the scared $hitless :scared: Then I'm going to choose the tinfoil hat :tinfoilhat: Now to even things out, :dem: I'll end with :hi:

[bluesmail]

24. Who's behind the curtain pulling the puppet's strings?

I don't think I want to know. Because. I am really scared of those people(s). If they are. People that is. I'm going to start with four smillies today, I'm going with the scared $hitless :scared: Then I'm going to choose the tinfoil hat :tinfoilhat: Now to even things out, :dem: I'll end with :hi:

[Volaris]

25. i got as far as this---

"The idea came from Mr. Cheney"
before I laughed out loud at the idea of Pres. Bush having what would have otherwise been a "random good idea".

[NICO9000]

26. Bush never picked Cheney - Cheney picked himself!

I've noticed lots of people don't remember how Cheney was the person appointed to find Dumbya a veep and somehow decided he was the best choice...

:eyes:

[Beartracks]

27. "I wanted to appear decisive and in-charge...

... so Dick suggested that I drop him from the ticket."

Uh... :rofl:

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[David Zephyr]

28. He considered dropping Cheney until he realized he was the ventriloquist.

Dummy.

[susu369]

29. zinger!

[BlueIris]

30. I haven't read the book, but those excerpts read like something a 6th grader

would have written.

[Thor_MN]

31. Read it as a drinking game, a drink per lie.

And then when get up off the floor the next morning, you can start page two.

[rhett o rick]

32. The dip-shit thought he had a choice. He is definitely the dim-som. nm

[madaboutharry]

33. kick

[Turborama]

34. Bush considered ditching 'Darth Vader' Cheney

Source: The Independent (UK)

President George W Bush considered dropping Vice President Dick Cheney from his 2004 presidential campaign to "demonstrate I was in charge," the former president says in a new memoir.

Ironically, and perhaps predictably, it was in fact Mr Cheney's idea. The vice president offered to drop out of the race in mid-2003.

"I did consider the offer," Bush writes in Decision Points, to be published next week. He says he spent several weeks exploring the possibility of replacing Cheney with Senator Bill Frist, then the Senate majority leader.

"While Dick helped with important parts of our base, he had become a lightning rod for criticism from the media and the left," Bush writes. "He was seen as dark and heartless – the Darth Vader of the administration."

Read more: http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/bush-considered-ditching-darth-vader-cheney-2124573.html

[XemaSab]

35. It would have taken a surgical team hours to get Cheney's hand out of there

and Pelosi would have had to take charge. :P

[madokie]

37. I"m not even sure darth's hands are out of there yet :-)

[Sal Minella]

43. Great post. n/t

[madokie]

36. Yeah yeah yeah

we know who was in charge for eight years and it wasn't you gwbush. Because of your bush name was you even on the ticket, asswipe

[ProfessorGAC]

38. Don't Believe A Word Of It

Silverspoon was NEVER in charge. H was not allowed to make any major decisions, and unless the puppetmasters decided it was time for Cheney to go (and he wasn't in charge either, just another puppet) Silverspoon may have considered it, but he never considered the fact that it wasn't his decision to make.
GAC

[deminks]

39. Let me get this straight. The idea to make the pretzeldente look like a decider

did not come from the decider president, but came from the real decider who selected himself to be vice-president. So Darth was selecting himself out of office, too? I doubt it. Anyway, the idea was rejected by the fake decider who decided not to look like a decider, but say he was the decider anyway. Have I got that right?

Junior is a liar.

Frist? O gawd.

[ProfessorGAC]

40. Darth Wasn't The Decider, Either

He was just another empty suit filling a role set up for him by the real deciders.

That's how he got the gig at Haliburton. That's how we got his first House gig.

That's how he got the VP spot.

As much as i agree with your loathing of Cheney, i think you overestimate him.
GAC

[xor]

42. Who were/are the real deciders?

[Sal Minella]

44. I recommend you stick around D.U.

You'll learn a lot.

[ProfessorGAC]

46. My Opinion Is. . .

. . .the huge moneyed interests that started the whole faux populist movement.

They're the same folks who used Norquist as their mouthpiece to the public, and their spy in the White House.

They're the same folks who made the huge investments in Newscorp when they were running a Debt to Equity ratio of 9 in the U.S., that resulted in the launching of, and expansion of Faux News.

They're the same folks who funded the Congressional lunatics in the 90's that pursued the Clinton witchhunts instead of actually letting the administration do things like monitor the economy and national defense.

They're the same folks who decided that electing empty suits to the White House would encourage a tax cut nobody needed, especially those with the most money.

This is a whole "follow the money" thing. Just like now, who's behind the funding of the issue ads? Just like now, who's behind the funding of think tanks that get to go on TV and act like experts, even though everything they've professed is provably wrong.

There is a shadow goverment run by people with the most toys. And, they won't be happy until they not only have nearly all lthe toys, but get to set the rules by which everyone else can acquire toys.

I can't name names. I don't know them. But, as long as there is a poliltical system that allows people to participate anonymously, and at huge volume, there is a hierarchy. Somewhere up that hierarchy are the real deciders.
GAC

[xor]

47. Do you think they work together or that it's a bunch of groups/individuals who use their power

to pull whatever strings and make things happen in their own favor? Maybe a little of both?

[ProfessorGAC]

51. I'll Go With Your "Little Of Both"

It doesn't have to be a nefarious cabal. It's just people with similar business and economic interests who bump into one another at country clubs and society meetings where they can avoid the hoi polloi and rub elbows.

Then they all sort of know who they need to support financially.

I think all this started with Reagan. You don't really think that doddering old fool was really in charge, do you?

And, by now, the same people who support this kind of gov't aren't the same as then? The philosophy and concept live on, and even in the shadows, the characters change.
GAC

[Demeter]

41. Sure He Did

If W wants to write fiction, he should be honest about it.

[zeemike]

45. This is all part of the rehabilitation of the Bush brand.

so Jeb can run for president in the future.
We will hear more about Bush and how he was let down by his team.

[TroglodyteScholar]

48. But you didn't drop him, George, because you were never in charge.

:thumbsdown:

[LynneSin]

49. Problem was - Cheney wouldn't let him

:rofl:

[ProfessorGAC]

53. Cheney Had No Say Either, Lynne

Two empty suits with Norquist as the spy who informed the real deciders what was going on. Then you had the "likeable" doofus as OinC, and the evil Sith Lord distracting us all that nobody we actually could identify was in charge.
GAC

[Uncle Joe]

50. Let's see, it was just myth about Cheney's power and Bush was just a helpless "dissenter," got it.

It makes you wonder though, if Bush didn't have power and Cheney's power was overblown, who was the decider?:shrug:

Thanks for the thread, RamboLiberal.

[Love Bug]

54. Then Cheney used Jedi mind tricks on the Shrub...

Problem solved!