Netanyahu to tell Biden: Only military threat can stop Iran

[bobthedrummer]

Source: by Barak Ravid/Haaretz

Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu will ask the Obama administration on Sunday to create a credible threat in the form of a military campaign to prevent Iran from acquiring nuclear weapons, according to a senior official in Jerusalem.

Read more: http://www.haaretz.com/news/diplomacy-defense/natanyahu-to-tell-biden-only-military-threat-can-stop-iran-1.323426

[yourout]

1. They need to get over it......Iran will have nukes they just need to make sure Iran knows...

if they use a nuke they will be wipped from the planet.

[Ticonderoga]

22. Ditto that for Israel

[jimlup]

31. Israel can use nukes freely...

Perhaps even with fewer consequences than the United States. I think it is very likely that Israel will be the next nation to use a nuclear weapon in anger.

[arcane1]

2. "create a credible threat"

Good luck with that!

[TheWatcher]

19. "create a Credible Threat"

It wouldn't be the first time.....

[tishaLA]

3. And what will prevent Netanyahu from building more settlements?

[pattmarty]

4. If the US starts ANOTHER war, I and my wife are outa Dodge..........

..........Fuck the USA, I'll move to Spain or Portugal. I believe now with the Republican blowout that we are on the cusp of turning into an all out fascist country. This kind of talk about Iran and this talk in Texas of them "opting out of" SS and Medicaid is the last fucking straw for me. I will get out while the gettin' is good.

[Leftist Agitator]

20. Good luck getting work in Europe.

If it were possible, I'd have left long ago.

[pattmarty]

28. Don't need it. Wife and I are on SS and I have a modest pension.........

.........My house is almost paid AND I have NO credit cards or installment loans. My ONLY concern leaving is my kids staying in this fucking socio/political/economic shithole.

[alanquatermass]

26. Better save room on that boat for me!!! (LOL!)

Makes me sick the way the US and Israel aren't even considering the idea of having a good-faith dialogue with Iran. Biden said it best during the campaign of '08: "We need to talk, talk, TALK!"

Beats revving up the ol' Western Imperialist War Machine any day of the week.

[iandhr]

5. Mr. Netanyahu

A piece of advice. When it comes to Iran Walk softly, talk softly but carry a big stick.

[iandhr]

6. I would be shocked

if such a contingency plan did not already exist

[Violet_Crumble]

7. He's got a real nerve asking the US for anything, let alone to threaten another country...

Netanyahu refuses to even pause the construction of illegal settlements in the occupied West Bank, despite the US administration asking him to do so. Screw him and the horse he rode in on...

[defendandprotect]

9. Biden has been encouraging an Israeli attack on Iran .... !!

[AngryOldDem]

11. +1 n/t

[Frank Booth]

14. Netanyahu always gets what he wants from Obama, anyway, so why not

demand this?

Obama's way too weak to deal with Netanyahu, and he is even more scared of being criticized by the Israel lobby than he is of being criticized by big business.

[Chulanowa]

8. Biden to tell Netanyahu, "oh shut the fuck up already, Mr. Bibbles."

[2critical]

10. the USA needs to stop being Israel's body slave

They spy on us, rouse their enemies against us, worsen our (already) bad reputation. With "friends" like Israel, we don't really need al Qaeda.

[YankeeLeft7x]

12. Expect a War with Iran Folks

Expect a War with Iran Folks

It is not if or why but only a matter of when and who starts it folks. Get ready because an attack and war on Iran is coming soon. I hate to say this but talk to people who live in that part of the world and know the region and they fully expect a war to start at any time.

[RZM]

15. I don't know who you're talking to

But given the anti-American and anti-Israel tenor of a lot of the press coverage there, I wouldn't be surprised if the idea is being floated frequently in order to shore up support for various regimes. It's an old game. I, on the other hand, take the opposite position. I think US involvement in military action against Iran is very unlikely and barring some sort of game-changing event (such as direct Iranian aggression on a neighbor, which won't happen) I think the Obama administration wouldn't dream of it. Republicans bluster, but they do so because they know they can't do much else. I wouldn't be at all surprised if the periodic threats issued through Republican US lawmakers are coordinated with the Pentagon and the White House. It's way too risky in economic terms and would utterly discredit any administration that tried it.

Israel I don't know about. They also know what could happen, but of course their tolerance is lower. If anyone does it, it's going to be them, but I'd say the likelihood of that is less than 50 percent. That could get out of control quickly though if Iran retaliated through Hezbollah and Israel re-entered Lebanon.

[stormpilot]

16. They could be baiting Obama

to make a move in the hopes of ensuring his catastrophic failure of re-election.

[RZM]

17. I kind of doubt it

Everyone knows he'd never fall for that. If they aren't working together on this (and I suspect they are), I'd say it's more like Republican 'taunting,' where they're saying 'we get to say whatever we want on security/national defense, because we're Republicans and we won't be damaged by it and we don't control defense so we don't have to make decisions. But you, on the other hand, are much more constrained, so excuse me while I co-opt this issue, sucka!' Though like I said, I find that less likely.

I think the administration and Pentagon are orchestrating these threats and moving them into the press through Republicans, who can say such things without risking alienating key aspects of their base. Behind the scenes, I think everything but threats and sanctions is 'off the table,' so to speak, but of course you don't want Iran thinking that. If that's the case, they probably think Iran suspects that anyway, so using Republicans for the threats might also be a way for Obama to say 'if I get voted out in 2012, you better watch out because the Republicans are coming to get you' in the hopes that Iran will cut a deal and not risk having to deal with a more hawkish administration with the nuclear issue still up in the air.

[stormpilot]

23. Perhaps. but do you really think they'd work together like that?

Seems hard to believe, but who's to say...

[RZM]

24. I don't see why they couldn't

I imagine they're all united around the goal of preventing a nuclear-armed Iran, though there's probably plenty of differences about how to best go about achieving it. Maybe we get so caught up with the public differences between the two sides that we forget that there's a lot basic obligations that those who run a large state and a great power have to work together on, because they all have a vested interest in the outcomes and this stuff sometimes is decided behind the scenes . . . stuff like basic diplomacy, security policy, keeping the lights on and the trains running etc. . . .

I have no inside info here, so I could be totally wrong. But there's a lot of stuff that goes on behind the scenes that would probably surprise us . . . and probably not in the ways we might suspect.

[glinda]

13. crap

[Jello Biafra]

18. I'm smelling False Flag Operation here too gang....

It's inevitable what's coming next....

[irislake]

21. OH FER GOD'S SAKE!

Why is anybody afraid of Iran? Even if it got nuclear weapons it wouldn't be a threat. (Wish it would get 'em, then US would leave them alone.)

I read this morning Christopher Hitchens said he is "scared shitless" of Iran. Everybody else I know is scared shitless that US/Israel will attack Iran, using the usual excuses.

I think the US is a HUGE threat. Wish to hell you'd go too broke to make endless war but then wars make your top 1% richer and richer. And that's what counts.

Don't it?

Where is Chris Hitchens coming from? I thought he had a brain.

[AndyTiedye]

25. Already Are

Wish to hell you'd go too broke to make endless war

We already ARE too broke wage the wars we're waging now, let alone any new ones.

but then wars make your top 1% richer and richer.

It really only helps a few well-connected arms manufacturers.

The top 1% as a whole benefits more from peace and stability. So does almost everybody else.

If the US gets any more broke than we already are, that won't exactly help Canada either btw.

Where is Chris Hitchens coming from?

Probably a briefing from AIPAC.

[irislake]

29. I am well aware that when you go down the drain economically

Canada will go with you.

Dark days ahead.

[bemildred]

27. LOL.

"Please Mr Vice President, can't you do something?"

[sendero]

30. The US needs to stop...

.... being Israel's bitch. If they have a problem with Iran, LET THEM FIX IT.

[Hell Hath No Fury]

32. "The US needs to stop being Israel's bitch."

Neither Party has the gonads to risk the votes/money they would lose if they actually started treating the Israel/Palestinian situation truly fairly.

[bobthedrummer]

33. SecDef Gates had some comments against this, but he's clearly another black operative

US rejects Israeli call to threaten Iran (11-8-10 Israel News/Ynetnews.com)
http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3981196,00.html

[Scurrilous]

34. Protesters interrupt Israeli PM Netanyahu's speech

<snip>

"Hecklers interrupted Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu's speech to a prominent American Jewish group on Monday, the same day his government said it would move ahead with hundreds of new housing units in disputed east Jerusalem.

The five Jewish protesters stood up and held banners denouncing Israeli settlements. They were escorted out to a chorus of shouts and boos and then released without charges. One audience member took a protest banner left behind and ripped it with his teeth."

Read more: http://www.miamiherald.com/2010/11/08/1915485/protesters-interrupt-israeli-pm.html#ixzz14jKFFuXZ

[bobthedrummer]

35. Sounds like begging for "pre-emptive" approval but the Russians are invested with Iran, kick

[Arkana]

36. Then Bibi better grab an assault rifle and get on the front lines

because the United States would be stupid to threaten Iran with yet another unwinnable war in the Middle East.