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Psephos (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-10-10 01:13 AM Original message |
Christian woman sentenced to death in Pakistan 'for blasphemy' |
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The Doctor. (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-10-10 01:41 AM Response to Original message |
1. Religious fundamentalists are a danger everywhere. |
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snagglepuss (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-10-10 01:49 AM Response to Reply #1 |
2. No comparison. The Pakistan police judicary and govt are complicit, |
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Webster Green (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-10-10 02:06 AM Response to Reply #2 |
3. Um...yes it is the beahvior of mindless dolts. |
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saigon68 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-10-10 03:30 AM Response to Reply #3 |
5. mindless dolts |
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Phil The Cat (211 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-10-10 06:09 AM Response to Reply #5 |
10. Radical Pakistanis are followers of Palin and Beck? |
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Turborama (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-10-10 06:41 AM Response to Reply #10 |
13. No, followers of Palin and Beck are "mindless dolts". Please try and keep up. n/t |
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Phil The Cat (211 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-10-10 03:10 PM Response to Reply #13 |
32. I thought the particular topic was about the blasphemy charge |
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totodeinhere (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-17-10 01:15 PM Response to Reply #13 |
72. The difference is that Palin and Beck don't give the death penalty to those whose |
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alanquatermass (318 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-13-10 08:01 PM Response to Reply #3 |
55. They'd do it here in a flat second! Go Green! (in all respects!!!) |
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totodeinhere (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-17-10 01:16 PM Response to Reply #3 |
73. That's the point. In this country they would never be allowed to get away with it. But in Pakistan |
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The Doctor. (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-10-10 02:23 AM Response to Reply #2 |
4. Correct... the mindless behavior has been *instated* by the fundamentalists in Pakistan. |
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SkyDaddy7 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-10-10 05:36 AM Response to Reply #2 |
8. YES there is a comparison... |
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alanquatermass (318 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-13-10 08:04 PM Response to Reply #8 |
56. Fuck, yeah! Whether their skin is white or brown or yellow or any color in between... |
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Citizen Worker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-10-10 03:45 AM Response to Original message |
6. There are several thousand christian fundies here that would impose the same penalty were it someone |
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leftynyc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-10-10 05:42 AM Response to Reply #6 |
9. Name one |
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Turborama (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-10-10 06:37 AM Response to Reply #9 |
12. Of course the actions of the mob is worse than wrong on many levels. But Muslims do believe in Jesus |
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jancantor (403 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-10-10 07:25 AM Response to Reply #12 |
16. Um, no |
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Turborama (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-10-10 07:44 AM Response to Reply #16 |
18. I said they believe in Jesus. I meant they believe in Jesus the prophet. So... Um, yes. |
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jancantor (403 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-10-10 07:47 AM Response to Reply #18 |
19. Um, no |
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Turborama (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-10-10 08:02 AM Response to Reply #19 |
21. No, I specifically said, "they're not saying "the christ story is bullshit" |
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jancantor (403 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-10-10 08:16 AM Response to Reply #21 |
22. And if you are saying that Muslims believe |
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Turborama (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-10-10 09:10 AM Response to Reply #22 |
25. I explained what I meant earlier. |
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jancantor (403 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-10-10 03:00 PM Response to Reply #25 |
30. And you are still wrong |
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Turborama (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-10-10 08:16 PM Response to Reply #30 |
43. If you don't get it after my easy to read explanations, you never will. |
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boppers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-13-10 08:51 PM Response to Reply #30 |
62. WRONG. If you're going to be pedantic, you might want to get an accurate definition of Messiah. |
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leftynyc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-10-10 12:57 PM Response to Reply #21 |
27. You're wrong |
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jancantor (403 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-10-10 02:48 PM Response to Reply #27 |
29. It's really simple to realize you are wrong if you actually use reading comprehension |
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leftynyc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-10-10 03:13 PM Response to Reply #29 |
33. Isn't that exactly what I said? |
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jancantor (403 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-10-10 03:22 PM Response to Reply #33 |
36. My humble apologies |
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Turborama (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-10-10 08:23 PM Response to Reply #29 |
44. "They DO believe he existed and was a prophet." That's exactly what I said to you upthread. |
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boppers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-13-10 09:00 PM Response to Reply #29 |
64. By the numbers. |
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Turborama (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-10-10 08:10 PM Response to Reply #27 |
42. I didn't object to it, I wanted to clarify. And I'm going to clarify again. |
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happyslug (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-14-10 02:29 AM Response to Reply #16 |
67. Historians main problem with Jesus is the lack of two independent sources... |
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leftynyc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-10-10 12:54 PM Response to Reply #12 |
26. Are the police not part of the government? |
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jancantor (403 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-10-10 03:08 PM Response to Reply #26 |
31. You are correct |
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Turborama (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-10-10 08:33 PM Response to Reply #26 |
47. The police in places like the one in the OP are a law unto themselves |
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jancantor (403 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-10-10 07:28 AM Response to Reply #9 |
17. It's the Mandatory False Equivalency |
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marasinghe (754 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-10-10 08:08 PM Response to Reply #9 |
41. while i agree with much of your post & say fuck murderous fundies wherever they exist .... |
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Bragi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-12-10 07:29 AM Response to Reply #9 |
53. +++ /nt |
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alanquatermass (318 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-13-10 08:19 PM Response to Reply #9 |
57. Oh, please. Anyone who thinks Judeo-Christian fundies aren't -- |
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Phil The Cat (211 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-10-10 06:24 AM Response to Reply #6 |
11. Amen! |
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Democat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-10-10 04:09 AM Response to Original message |
7. This is what the far right would like to do in America. |
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Ter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-10-10 03:20 PM Response to Reply #7 |
35. I think that's a bit far |
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alanquatermass (318 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-13-10 08:25 PM Response to Reply #35 |
58. Ah, I see... you can look into Pat Robertson's HEART, can you? |
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panzerfaust (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-10-10 07:04 AM Response to Original message |
14. Allahu Akbar |
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Phil The Cat (211 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-10-10 03:14 PM Response to Reply #14 |
34. You might want to take a closer look at Europe |
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alanquatermass (318 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-13-10 08:30 PM Response to Reply #34 |
59. Sorry, but I have friends in Europe who insist it is MUCH better there! |
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SemperEadem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-10-10 07:07 AM Response to Original message |
15. there are plenty of fundamentalcase xtians in this country |
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The Straight Story (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-10-10 08:00 AM Response to Original message |
20. Well she is a christian, and as we all know here they are bad people with a history |
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pecwae (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-10-10 08:55 AM Response to Reply #20 |
24. Exactly the point. |
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Rage for Order (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-10-10 07:57 PM Response to Reply #20 |
40. You forgot one thing... |
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Posteritatis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-14-10 12:50 PM Response to Reply #20 |
69. You left out the reflexive attempts to make the story about the US. (nt) |
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karynnj (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-10-10 08:21 AM Response to Original message |
23. Salem Witch trials? |
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sufrommich (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-10-10 01:04 PM Response to Reply #23 |
28. The Salem Witch trials of 1692? nt |
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xor (180 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-11-10 12:57 PM Response to Reply #28 |
49. No the ones that took place in Salem, Oregon back in August of 1995... |
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Old Troop (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-10-10 06:13 PM Response to Original message |
37. May I point out that, once again, the victim is lost in our high-minded |
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sally cat (544 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-10-10 07:44 PM Response to Original message |
38. This is a perfect opportunity to trot out bogus false equivalence stuff. |
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Vehl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-10-10 07:49 PM Response to Original message |
39. sad news :( |
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sarcasmo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-10-10 08:25 PM Response to Original message |
45. A Religious Fundamentalist war is what this war will always and forever be about. |
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sally cat (544 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-11-10 09:06 PM Response to Reply #45 |
52. Just freedom of religion will do in this woman's case. |
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alanquatermass (318 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-13-10 08:31 PM Response to Reply #45 |
60. If only! |
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ProgressIn2008 (848 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-10-10 08:27 PM Response to Original message |
46. This mother of 5 has been in prison since June last year - heartbreaking. nt |
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Taverner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-10-10 10:36 PM Response to Original message |
48. Once again, what makes this possible? |
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xor (180 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-11-10 01:00 PM Response to Reply #48 |
50. How do you pronouce the Ls that precede the final L? |
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La Lioness Priyanka (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-11-10 03:48 PM Response to Original message |
51. assholes. nt |
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Bragi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-12-10 11:38 AM Response to Original message |
54. Religion makes this grief possible, but we know the solution |
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alanquatermass (318 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-13-10 08:37 PM Response to Reply #54 |
61. Right! So let's just up and INVADE their countries... |
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sally cat (544 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-13-10 10:04 PM Response to Reply #61 |
65. No, let's openly condemn them when they do this stuff and stop being afraid to speak out. |
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alanquatermass (318 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-13-10 10:09 PM Response to Reply #65 |
66. Who's "afraid to speak out"??? |
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Bragi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-15-10 10:15 AM Response to Reply #65 |
70. Quite so |
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Turborama (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-17-10 01:11 PM Response to Reply #70 |
71. And there appear to be some here who make up stuff about Muslims and Islam |
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totodeinhere (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-17-10 01:19 PM Response to Reply #71 |
74. Was this story about the Christian woman made up or not? n/t |
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Turborama (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-17-10 01:23 PM Response to Reply #74 |
75. I wasn't talking about the OP, obviously. It's a news story. |
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Divine Discontent (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-13-10 08:53 PM Response to Reply #54 |
63. how sad. I agree, extremist views on anything from politics, religion, etc, can make people so |
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Turborama (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-14-10 11:26 AM Response to Reply #54 |
68. Nope, you might be surprised to find out that most Muslim majority countries are secular |
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