Protesters try to block Neo-Nazi rally in Phoenix

[IDemo]

Source: Associated Press

PHOENIX -- Police trying to keep protesters from blocking dozens of neo-Nazi's marching to the federal courthouse in Phoenix on Saturday afternoon had to use tear gas to move them off the street.

Police spokesman Sgt. Tommy Thompson says no serious injuries were reported among the protesters and none were arrested.

After the group of people opposed to the neo-Nazi march were moved off the street, the group continued on to the courthouse.

Members of the National Socialist Movement have marched in Phoenix against illegal immigration and in support of American workers regularly in recent years.

Read more: http://www.azcentral.com/community/phoenix/articles/2010/11/13/20101113neo-nazi-protesters.html

[marmar]

1. Gov. Brewer & Sheriff Joe held a march today?

nt

[Diclotican]

5. marmar

marmar

It all started the same way in Germany in the 1920s... Everyone rembember the Punch in Munchen in 1923, when Hitler desided it was time to go on Berlin, as Mussolini had been doing it some year earlier, with sucess in Rome.... Hitler had not the same sucess.. His crowd was splinted, and himself arrested after a day or two, but he was not given more than 9 month out of 9 year. And wel, we all know how it all ended in 1945....

And it happened in a economy rougly similar to what is today in US.. it is more than just an "downturn".. Millions know, or feel their life in danger, no job, no hope on jobs. And it is easy to claim they who are gulty should be hang out to dry.. And US would more than posible loose both Iraq and Afghanistan by an large.... It is easy to wish for a stron man, who can do it right, who can give peopole hope for something.. Even if it really is killing you in the prosess.. But of course. Many things is different today, than it was in the 1920s.. We must just hope, that US can do better than Germany in the 1920s did... Or at least not go shipwreck as Germany did in 1930..

History seen to repeat itself here.. Not in Germany, but in US.... I fear for the future, when I know the past...

Diclotican

[Catherina]

2. "in support of American workers"? That'll be the day.

Rec'd with thanks to the protestors.

[AsahinaKimi]

3. and

Glenn Beck wasn't there?

[CatholicEdHead]

4. I hate Phoenix Nazis

[Octafish]

8. Me too. William Rehnquist made them mainstream.

Know your BFEE: Vote Suppressor Supreme, the Turd Bill Rehnquist

[PSzymeczek]

9. I'd love to see them

in the Gila River.

[thelordofhell]

6. Hmmmm.......and there's a NASCAR race going on this weekend too

Coincidence????

:evilgrin: :tinfoilhat:

[obxhead]

24. More like a stereotype.

A rather insulting one to some of my very Democratic friends.

[lunasun]

7. at least they have the location right for a march

need to drop that socialist thingy in their name to get more of Brewer's fan base though

[ZombieHorde]

10. I am happy to read there was a counter to the Neo-Nazis. Recommended. nt

[Blue_Tires]

11. It's just the Arizona Tea Party with a costume change...

[molly77]

18. Fascists, KKK, militia

You are right . They are all the same. Steal in a legal way .

When we fought Mexico in the Spanish American War. WE took California, Texas, Arizona and Utah. I think there may be another state or two. Funny...those are the very states now with the immigration problems. The war was widely denounced by thinkers like Emerson, Thoreau and Mark Twain. Even Ulysses Grant thought it unfair.

In the treaty we signed with them. WE said that ranches and land owned by them would not be taken. Mexicans lost ranches that had been in their families for generations. You know who got first crack at the land? Lawyers and politicians.What does Karma have in store for US?

[MellowDem]

27. Karma doesn't exist..

and the idea that "karma" is somehow just by punishing such man-made things as "countries" as a whole generations later makes no real sense. Regardless, Mexico had no more of a claim than the US or any other country did to that land. It was decided who would have it the way it has been since the beginning, by force. I doubt the native tribes considered themselves part of Mexico either.

[defendandprotect]

12. We should make clear that the original Socialist Party which Hitler took over ....

did in fact support social concerns -- feminism, reproductive rights, abortion ---

healthful foods, etal --

It was AFTER the party was taken over by Hitler and his storm troopers that its

values were overturned and it became part of the Hitler dictatorship.

[AlbertCat]

19. healthful foods,

But not healthy foods?


I'm sorry. but I hate the non-word "healthful".


Nice to see so much activity against neo-nazis though.

[defendandprotect]

20. You are "healthy" .... food is "healthful" .... or should be ... !!

Too few people recognize that our plants are actually what keeps us

healthy.

Plants/vegetables nournish different parts of the human body.

[True_Blue]

13. Of course they only stop the protestors

but not the neo nazis. It makes me sick what is happening to our once beautiful state.

[Honeycombe8]

25. All legal groups have a right to march. That protection is afforded even...

the groups that are most hated by the public, like Nazis.

I hate to hear that these creeps are still doing marches, after all these years. It is offensive. But they have that right. That protection would be meaningless if all it did was protect the right of LIKED groups to march. It's there to protect the rights of groups to march, even when those groups are disliked.

They have been stopped in the past when the marches were through Jewish areas. There was a made for TV movie about that years ago, with Danny Kaye. That is not protected, since it was enciting violence or a personal affront to a particular group, or something like that.

[True_Blue]

28. I understand what you're saying but ...

here in AZ free speech is a oneway street. They don't care about the 1st amendment here. Arpaio planned in advance to arrest any protesters marching against SB1070 this summer.

Why didn't Arpaio escort these protesters like they did the neo nazis...

'Arpaio ready for SB1070 demonstrations'

'PHOENIX -- Maricopa County Sheriff Joe Arpaio is laying down the law on possible protests surrounding Senate Bill 1070, scheduled to go into effect Thursday.

"Thousands of people will reportedly descend upon Maricopa County this week in support of, or in protest to, SB1070," Arpaio said Tuesday.

"Intelligence gathering leads us to believe that several acts of civil disobedience are planned -- here at my office headquarters in the Wells Fargo Bank high-rise in downtown Phoenix, at the jails including Tent City and at Thursday's crime suppression operation which will be conducted by my deputies and posse members."
http://ktar.com/?sid=1318729&nid=6

[old mark]

14. No, wait - it was the Phoenix Chamber of Commerce, not the Nazis...

hard to tell the difference in their unis...


mark

[gleeindc]

15. A rose by any other name...

Words do matter: Interesting how the word Socialist, often used as a scare tactic in U.S. politics, was used for a group tied to a fascist ideology.

[lunatica]

16. There was some violence. Rocks thrown and some injuries

Arizona seems to be boiling over into a Civil War. I wonder if this doesn't portend a racial Civil War brewing. And will the rest of the US be dragged in?

History shows it may be so. Wars have always been decided by a handful of people.

[perimedik]

17. freedom to do so

Although they have the right to protest and they have the freedom to assemble (peacefully- which never happens when they gather) we don't have to like it.
Nazis are idiots. Watch them carefully, they do stupid things.

[The Green Manalishi]

22. The question is - should we, or anyone, have a right to stop their rally?

A counter rally is one thing, and a healthy thing. But trying to block, or stop their rally?
I think it's far more effective to let the Nazi's have a pathetic little rally and instead stage a counter rally many times bigger. No love for nazis, but I thing that *anyone* should, if they get the proper permits, etc, be allowed to have a rally; I don't have to like it, I don't have to attend, but the right to peacefully assemble is an absolute and inviolable one regardless of how repugnant the assembly may be.

[lonestarnot]

21. Lizzie.

[ck4829]

23. "and in support of American workers"

Yeah, it's not the words "HATE" and "KILL ALL GAYS" tattooed across your head that's keeping you from getting a job, but it's a conspiracy of dark skinned people and Jews that's really doing it, right neo-nazis?

[DBoon]

26. It's not that you are dumb as a brick and have anger management problems

that keeps you from finding work, oh no, it is those terrible brown skinned people

[chidy]

29. you know what the KKK hates more than anything?

being ignored.