Exclusive: Corruption Charges to Feature in WikiLeaks Release

[Hissyspit]

Source: Reuters

Exclusive: Corruption charges to feature in WikiLeaks release
Wed Nov 24, 2010 3:39pm EST

By Mark Hosenball

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Classified U.S. diplomatic cables reporting corruption allegations against foreign governments and leaders are expected in official documents that WikiLeaks plans to release soon, sources said on Wednesday.

The whistle-blowing website said on its Twitter feed this week its next release would be seven times larger than the collection of roughly 400,000 Pentagon reports related to the Iraq war which it made public in October.

Three sources familiar with the State Department cables held by WikiLeaks say the corruption allegations in them are major enough to cause serious embarrassment for foreign governments and politicians named in them. They said the release was expected next week, but could come earlier.

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Among the countries whose politicians feature in the reports are Russia, Afghanistan and former Soviet republics in Central Asia. But other reports also detail potentially embarrassing allegations reported to Washington from U.S. diplomats in other regions including East Asia and Europe, one of the sources familiar with the WikiLeaks holdings said.

Read more: http://us.mobile.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE6AN5HL20101124?ca=rdt

[Hissyspit]

1. MORE:

Sources say dump may "result in more international uproar than did the earlier release by WikiLeaks of Pentagon reports on the conflicts in Iraq and Afghanistan."

[CJCRANE]

2. Who's giving him all this information

and why?

Who benefits?

[Frisbee]

3. Who benefits?

Citizens?

[CJCRANE]

4. In theory

they should, but it'll be interesting to see how this plays out.

Will it distract from ratifying the START treaty (for example)?

Assange could be doing this in good faith but the person feeding him the data could have an ulterior motive.

[Frisbee]

5. Very true.

I also suspect that the rape charges may be the least of his problems if he embarrasses the wrong people, which sounds very likely.

[SkyDaddy7]

8. I know! It makes me wonder as well...

What if this leak is designed to destroy the START Treaty...What if it is someone on the Right who leaked the documents to just make Obama's problems that much worse? I would not put it past the GOP as they have clearly shown they would hurt America & Americans just to make Obama look bad so that they can regain full power. I am worried!

[Pale Blue Dot]

12. Nonsense.

These documents had to have been given to Wikileaks months ago (at minimum). To suggest that someone did this specifically with regards to the START treaty is patently absurd.

[Pavulon]

14. Bradley stole lots of stuff and if assange fucks with the russians they will kill him and his family

with zero hesitation. lying about using a rubber will be the least of his worries. they will kill his mother and his kid and use some creative stunt like polonium to make it clear who did it and why. They will kill his friends and his enablers. at the end of the day he is playing the role of an intelligence agency with no state to protect him. so no protection will be given.

The last guy they killed was in protective custody in the uk, dies a terrible death.

Will be interesting to see if he actually fucks with agencies that have no problem employing these methods. How will he keep up momentum after the bradley manning docs run out.

[SkyDaddy7]

51. I am very open to know what you know...

PLEASE share! You seem to know exactly when these documents were leaked, by who and why...So I would love to hear, see & know what you do!

I did not say I knew I said I fear because I do not know...So, please help me undertand, thanks!

[CJCRANE]

52. Timing is everything.

If you've observed the neocons over the last 10 years you've probably noticed that they put things in motion months (sometimes years) before they need them.

Sometimes they bring things forward to respond to a particular situation (but it doesn't mean they originally planned to use the distraction for that specific event, just that they decided to call the favor in at that time).

I'm not saying they're behind this but they're certainly capable of pulling this kind of stunt and it works to their advantage.

[JDPriestly]

7. We assume that someone is giving them these documents.

That assumption could be wrong. They may have found a different way to get them. Maybe some foreign country that has cracked our codes and obtained them is giving them to Assange.

Hard to say, but it is possible that the source is not American.

Of course, there is still the chance that we have a 21st century Daniel Ellsburg. But we should not assume that.

[Pavulon]

13. Bradley manning stole it on a cd with a lady gaga cover on it from a secure net

he will now die in federal custody surrounded by people who despise him.

[Nostradammit]

15. You seem to be really angry with Assange and Bradley, Pavulon -

Care to discuss why?

[Turborama]

17. Manning is not Wikileaks' only source of leaked documents. n/t

[NYMdaveNYI]

6. Stay strong, Wikileaks! nt

[marasinghe]

11. yea; keep the faith Mr. Assange. he's got more guts than the entire crop in congress. (n/t)

[Hissyspit]

9. .

[Ghost Dog]

10. Any chance of a wikileak relating to the Palestine Hotel

alleged murder of Spanish journalist José Couso, still the subject of Spanish civilian judicial investigation?

[Turborama]

16. What if all these leaks are from 01/21/09 onwards? How would everyone feel if it became obvious...

...that a mole left behind by the Bush Junta did this to ruin Obama's presidency?

This may not be the case, but just as a thought experiment...

[ProSense]

18. US warns of likely harm from WikiLeaks release

Source: Associated Press

WASHINGTON – The Obama administration said Wednesday it has alerted Congress and begun notifying foreign governments that the WikiLeaks website is preparing to release sensitive U.S. diplomatic files that could damage U.S. relations with friends and allies.

Officials said the documents may contain everything from accounts of compromising conversations with political dissidents and friendly politicians to disclosures of activities that could result in the expulsion of U.S. diplomats from foreign postings.

U.S. diplomatic outposts around the world have begun notifying other governments that WikiLeaks may release these documents in the next few days.

"These revelations are harmful to the United States and our interests," State Department spokesman P.J. Crowley said. "They are going to create tension in relationships between our diplomats and our friends around the world."



Read more: http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20101124/ap_on_go_ca_st_pe/us_wikileaks_8

[Blandocyte]

19. If you don't want to be ashamed later, don't do the shameful thing

Part of learning right from wrong.

[awoke_in_2003]

44. that, and always tell the truth...

if you lie you have to remember your lie- if you tell the truth it is the truth, nothing to remember.

[Whoa_Nelly]

20. Why does our government always respond with this same/similar statemnet re: wikileaks

when they already created the tensions and problems, some totally FUBAR, but up until wikileaks, were not exposed/made transparent? Am so done with the fear ratcheting and same ol', same ol' non-people /democratic BS from our nation... Maybe I should just leave... (yeah, as soon as I can find a job and stop being unemployed... :eyes: )

[sabrina 1]

21. That's funny. They invade and slaughter untold numbers of

innocent people, torture and maim untold more numbers, install puppet governments, kill more innocents with cowardly and deadly drones, and worry that some documents might 'create tensions'. Someone in this government is a comedian.

How about not killing and torturing people in foreign lands to steal their resources? Then you won't have to worry about documents or tensions.

Don't know what they're worried about anyhow, we don't observe the Rule of Law in this coutnry so no matter what crimes are revealed in these documents, the criminals get to go free.

Thank you DOJ for your diligence in upholding the laws of this country! :sarcasm:

[Pavulon]

34. yep, uness there is a PICTURE of bush eating an Iraqi with a side of slaw

this will be a 7 day cycle story, faux outrage, denials, and then like the last batch back to business.

BTW nothing out of Iraq has even come close to covering the cost of that war. And there is no pipe in Afghanistan.

After all this money it would be cheaper to airlift the oil than build some pie in the sky pipe.

[Incitatus]

49. True, but some companies did make billions off the war and don't care about the trillions it cost.

[go west young man]

22. Wikileaks is turning out to be more patriotic than most American's are these days.

What they are doing is actually in the long term interest of the US.
Everyone's pretty much aware the emperor has no clothes.

[pmorlan1]

23. Government Fails Newspaper Ethics Test

I guess our government is telegraphing to us that they didn't pass the Warren Buffet ethics test.

When asked how he instilled ethical leadership in his managers, Warren Buffett replied that he has all the money he needs and can afford to lose it on a bad decision. What he, or his companies, can’t afford to lose is their reputation. He has two reputation tests: the legal standards test and the newspaper test. Buffett went on to say that if an article appeared in a local newspaper about a decision and action you made, and your family and friends read the article, would you feel good about it?

{link: www.docs.google.com/viewer?a=v&q=cache:aUKRoo1kNHAJ:public.rcas.org/hs/chs/chshomework/Lists/Christine%2520PulaskiDidriksen/Attachments/323/Buffet%2520and%2520Gates.doc+buffett+newspaper+test&hl=en&gl=us&pid=bl&srcid=ADGEESj9jCTnwTOnwR2Qu7EbvXXVXtnu06vlmKL0CIeKsVcF_Oa2sb50hX6s03RL5IjBQMbWXG5Nv_JToRmLBei2ZZVYPktfZjXyMzm_OsXIZ-kNdFfxnvBVvk8iE3xz-nTlx4MoLvhh&sig=AHIEtbSw2G4ktklCRa9PpTz_Bh5VrgxshQ}

[Pharaoh]

24. Corporate interests

not our interests.......

[flying rabbit]

25. How does Wikileaks get all

of this "damning" information anyways? Is it government whistle blowers or what?

[Bragi]

28. There have to be whisleblowers somewhere in the chain /nt

[Pavulon]

30. had, the iceland cable from him was the first hint

he had cables. other countries will kill people leaking. it is a safe assumption at a certain level of value we will too.

[Pavulon]

29. Bradley Manning stole it for lulz, assange stole the lulz. assange has groupies

bradley is on suicide watch and will die in federal custody .

Basically someone stole it. whistleblowing is legally protected, like your bank does not lend to blacks, whistle blower. disclosing classified data, felon.

[Turborama]

32. I'm beginning to wonder if they're moles left behind by the Bush junta. n/t

[Pavulon]

33. No most is bradley's work. assange is just taking credit.

manning stole shitloads of documents.

[Turborama]

36. Which ones is he being charged for?

Details are important when making accusations like that.

[Pavulon]

37. Manning will face thousands of charges

10 years for each document he stole and published. the form is called a 10-10 when you sign it accepting clearance it clearly states there is a 10 year sentence and 10,000 dollar fine for breaking the law.

it can also carry a death penalty if Americans (or others) die due to your disclosure. the form is clear and the legality established. he is fucked. if he were smart he would have shot himself to avoid the misery the rest of his life will end up being.

he will die in florence adx or some place similar where very hard time is served.

[Turborama]

47. Which releases is he being charged for right now? n/t

[Turborama]

53. No answer to my question? Which releases is he being charged for right now?

Come on, you must know that...

[Pavulon]

54. Aww you known bwadwee is not charged with the full count yet

he has just enough to hold him while the decide how to bury him.

[Turborama]

55. You'd better save your allegations until then, then.

Because all you've got at the moment is suspicion.

[Pavulon]

56. nope he is fucked, dumb fucker bragged to a guy named lamo who posted

it online. Basically he convicted himself. You can use teh google and look it up if you like. He is a guilty treasonous asshole and if not the fucker can sue me. I have insurance for that.

he has two charges now but will get a charge for every document he stole. that will add up real fast.

My money is he dies in florence adx a broken "man".

[Turborama]

57. "He has two charges now", correct. Anything else you come up with NOW is pure speculation

That's it.

[ElsewheresDaughter]

26. Are Bush* era papers that they are leaking?

[Bragi]

27. Obama admin docs also /nt

[ElsewheresDaughter]

31. really...I wonder what the ratio is ;)

[roamer65]

35. It will probably only confirm what many of us have known for many years.

[Pavulon]

38. sure it will, diem did not kill himself and we buy influence.

with cash. stuff has been in the ny times since before we were all born.

[InkAddict]

39. Possibly from this?

http://journals.democraticunderground.com/robertpaulsen/219

[Pavulon]

40. evil jews run the us? no to kkk ish.(nt)

[tomm2thumbs]

41. remember, if you don't have anything nice to say....

...come sit by me

[mbperrin]

42. Memo to Washington: Leaking the documents is not the problem.

DOING the shit on the documents is the problem.

EOM

[roamer65]

43. If we're warning the Canadians, it must be bad.

All those Canadians are going to end up thinking Pierre Trudeau was right about us...and he was...

http://www.allvoices.com/contributed-news/7434172-washington-warns-canadian-government-of-upcoming-wikileaks-release

[mbperrin]

50. I don't know why our government thinks they need two faces, but

they've been at it a long time.

Let the sun shine in.

[defendandprotect]

45. The harm is more likely to their reputation and and emperialistic tactics --

[BigBearJohn]

46. Thus the reason for their want to control the internet.

[wordpix]

58. how does State Dept. know ahead of time what's being released?

that the leaks will be harmful, etc.? :shrug:

[wordpix]

59. people should be careful in emails - assume most stuff will be forwarded & passed around

At work, I assume that my email is read if the higher ups want to read it ---after all, it is their server, not mine, and probably their right to invade workers' privacy for any "probable cause" would be upheld in court.

Even if you're trying to send some top secret email using a remote server, your supervisors can get it with a little help from the IT people. So it's stupid to put anything sensitive in emails, period.

[ProSense]

48. US warns of likely harm from WikiLeaks release

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