Chinese government to make 'urgent' announcement

[IScreamSundays]

Source: Yonhapnews

(ATTN: UPDATES in 2nd para; ADDS last para)
By Kim Young-gyo
HONG KONG, Nov. 28 (Yonhap) -- The Chinese government said Sunday it will make an "urgent" announcement later in the day amid rising military tensions surrounding the Korean Peninsula.

China's foreign ministry said it will hold a press conference at 4:30 p.m. for both domestic and foreign reporters based in Beijing, adding that it will not accept any questions during the conference.

Read more: http://english.yonhapnews.co.kr/news/2010/11/28/0200000000AEN20101128003800320.HTML

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I don't know. What do you think is so "urgent".

[HEyHEY]

1. I reckon they are going to sell-out NK

[Catherina]

2. A warning to the US that it's treading in dangerous waters is my bet. n/t

[HEyHEY]

3. Nah, they wouldn't dare

[Catherina]

7. We'll know in a few hours

"We hold a consistent and clear-cut stance on the issue. We oppose any party to take any military actions in our exclusive economic zone without permission." - Chinese Foreign Ministry Spokesman Hong Lei, earlier today as reported by International Business Times

[HEyHEY]

10. We'll know it 15 minutes

[Catherina]

14. Ok, 15 minutes and then off to bed. It's way late for me but this is worth it. Thanks n/t

[Catherina]

37. I lose n/t

[yurbud]

8. they don't need North Korea as a thorn in our side anymore. They own our debt

that's easy to mess with than relying on second and third generation kook dictators of micro-countries.

[HEyHEY]

11. Not only that, they need us to keep buying their stuff to keep people employed

[Catherina]

21. Maybe something simple like an announcement of joint military drills with NK.

I doubt that but nothing would surprise me now. China isn't very amused about us possibly putting tactical nukes back into their backyard.

[yurbud]

33. it would be a neat trick if Obama got China to pull the plug on NK on his watch

[herbm]

42. My crooked uncle once told me owing the bank $100,000 and the bank owns you. Owe the bank $1,000,000

and you own the bank. The banks never called his bluff until the number was big enough to interest the IRS. But that's another story.

The point is that its not in the interest of those holding trillions of dollars in US dept to shake it up too much. Remember how the Japanese made everybody afraid in the nineties for buying up American companies and Hawaian and California real estate. The Japanese resold most at a loss within six or so years. The debtor is the tail that shakes a multi trillion dollar dog. It was one thing for Mao's China to want to bring the running dog imperial paper tiger Amsrica to the ground and they aren't holding any American debt. But it's another when you have one country two systems and people have a material life style and you have loans based on the liquid equitity built up in the last twenty years given in US dollars to the US. T-notes are payable in US dollars.

At worst loan sharks never kill you, they only break your arm. Steal your jobs - "right-shoring them", Ms Fiorino said. And then you pay them off and borrow again later.

Sen Boehner: where are the freaking jobs?

[bananas]

4. What time is that EST/PST? nt

[HEyHEY]

5. it's 4:11 PM in Beijing right now

[bananas]

12. Thanks for your posts from Beijing.

[denbot]

6. Beijing is 16 hours ahead of Los Angeles time.

So it looks like the announcement will be at 12:30. I'm guessing they will announce that the U.S. Carrier Group in the area should leave to reduce tensions.

[bananas]

9. about 15-20 minutes from now, 12:30am PST, 9:30pm EST

Thanks.

[HEyHEY]

13. Read this site, the official Chinese government news site

http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/china_a.htm

Whatever Beijing plans to say will be on here right after they say it in full detail.

[Frisbee]

15. I hope I'm wrong...

but I don't see then throwing allies under the bus.

[HEyHEY]

16. Yes they will

North Korea gives them nothing, the west gives them jobs, hence food, hence a stable domestic situation.

[Frisbee]

18. Makes sense...

lots of it, I just hope pride and the need to defend an ally don't out-weigh it. This has the feel of a fucked up situation that could go really bad.

[HEyHEY]

19. Do you remember the Xinjiang riots last year?

That's a TASTE of the well-hidden tension in China. They know if things go sideways they will fall apart. Plus, they don't want millions of North Korean refugees on their door.

[Frisbee]

22. Honestly... No, I had forgotten...

But everything you say makes sense and gives me hope. Thanks, hope is in short supply these days!

Edited to add: I have been drinking pretty heavily tonight!

[HEyHEY]

17. Anyone getting twitter feeds on this?

[IScreamSundays]

23. ...

http://twitter.com/austinramzy

[HEyHEY]

24. I can't get twitter

I'm in China... any word on what's up yet?

[sea four]

25. nothing yet...

[IScreamSundays]

26. Just about the need for emergency 6 nation talks.

Can't believe I stayed up for this.

http://twitter.com/gadyepstein

[HEyHEY]

28. Sounds like China pulling some last grasps and perpetuating the illusion

It has control over any part of this.

[bananas]

31. contents of that twitter feed for heyhey

http://twitter.com/gadyepstein

1. And we're done! That was fast. Considering U.S. has not appeared eager to resume 6-party talks, will be interesting to see next step. less than a minute ago via TweetDeck
2. In response to question about diplomacy over the weekend, discusses Dai Bingguo's visit to ROK, talks with Lee Myung-bak 2 minutes ago via TweetDeck
3. "I will answer one question," Foreign Ministry Vice Minister says 3 minutes ago via TweetDeck
4. This statement is a reaffirmation of the need for more 6-party talks. "should be resumed at an early date" 5 minutes ago via TweetDeck
5. For Ministry announcing "proposal from Chinese side": to have emergency consultations among the heads of 6 parties in December in Beijing 6 minutes ago via TweetDeck
6. OH prediction/joke: China will release Liu Xiaobo to distract from Korean crisis. / Never leave journalists idling too long. 11 minutes ago via TweetDeck
7. My prediction (not an uncommon one in this room): More Korea talks coming soon. We shall see shortly. 22 minutes ago via TweetDeck
8. US Ambassador Jon Huntsman was seen leaving Foreign Ministry by @austinramzy (intrepidly bicycling to press conference) 24 minutes ago via TweetDeck
9. Full house at Foreign Ministry briefing in Beijing. Last Sunday press conference I remember was to admit SARS was widespread, in April 2003 26 minutes ago via TweetDeck

[HEyHEY]

32. Thanks!

[bananas]

27. here's from that link

# A bunch of cameras and one reporter resting up http://yfrog.com/euwco012j 2 minutes ago via TweetDeck

# gadyepstein Full house at Foreign Ministry briefing in Beijing. Last Sunday press conference I remember was to admit SARS was widespread, in April 2003 20 minutes ago via TweetDeck Retweeted by austinramzy and 3 others

# gadyepstein My prediction (not an uncommon one in this room): More Korea talks coming soon. We shall see shortly. 17 minutes ago via TweetDeck Retweeted by austinramzy and 1 other

# A big media contingent at the Foreign Ministry in Beijing for a rare Sunday press conference 12 minutes ago via TweetDeck

# Just saw US Ambassador Jon Huntsman leaving the Chinese foreign ministry 14 minutes ago via TweetDeck

[rainbow4321]

29. Nothing about China's announcement

Right now most of the tweets are about SK's Defense Ministry ordering all journalists to leave the island that was initially attacked. They are sending a ferry to take them all off the island by the end of the day. It said the 7 pm ferry.

[OlympicBrian]

20. Maybe China will start to seize offshored US assets? nt

[Catherina]

30. (URGENT) China calls for early resumption of six-party nuke talks

2010/11/28 17:50 KST
(URGENT) China calls for early resumption of six-party nuke talks

http://english.yonhapnews.co.kr/news/2010/11/28/0200000000AEN20101128004700320.HTML

UPDATE 1:

"For(eign) Ministry announcing "proposal from Chinese side": to have emergency consultations among the heads of 6 parties in December in Beijing"


UPDATE 2:

This statement is a reaffirmation of the need for more 6-party talks. "should be resumed at an early date"


UPDATE 3:

CONFERENCE IS OVER - LASTED LESS THAN 5 MIN. CHINA CALLED FOR EMERGENCY CONSULTATIONS AMONG HEADS OF 6 PARTIES INVOLVED IN 6 PARTY TALKS.


"And we're done! That was fast. Considering U.S. has not appeared eager to resume 6-party talks, will be interesting to see next step."


http://204.74.214.194/forum1/message1270567/pg1

[Arrowhead2k1]

35. The Chinese are dumber than I thought. We are on the brink of total war here!

Put your DOG back on its leash for fuck sakes...

[redirish28]

36. China calling for emergency talks. I have a feeling they know something we don't

Too some it may be like they are calling this too late but I think they are trying to keep something from happening.


Just have a funny feeling.

[Catherina]

38. I tend to agree with you

"The Chinese side, after careful studies, proposes to have emergency consultations among the heads of delegation to the Six-Party Talks in early December in Beijing to exchange views on major issues of concern to the parties at present," said Wu Dawei, Chinese special representative for the Korean Peninsula affairs.

http://news.xinhuanet.com/english2010/china/2010-11/28/c_13625768.htm

[Catherina]

34. South Korea Rejects China Talks

South Korea Rejects China Talks

2010/11/28 17:54 KST
(URGENT) Pres. Lee made clear to Chinese official resumption of six-way talks "not timely": Cheong Wa Dae

http://english.yonhapnews.co.kr/news/2010/11/28/0200000000AEN20101128005400315.HTML

US envoy says six-party talks won't resume

U.S. nuclear envoy Stephen Bosworth answers a reporter's question during a press conference in Tokyo, Tuesday morning, Nov. 23, 2010. (AP Photo/Shizuo Kambayashi) (Shizuo Kambayashi - AP)

By SHINO YUASA
The Associated Press
Monday, November 22, 2010; 9:35 PM

TOKYO -- Talks among six nations to get North Korea to abandon its nuclear programs in return for aid and other concessions won't resume while Pyongyang works on a new uranium enrichment facility, a U.S. envoy said Tuesday.

...

The U.S. special envoy on North Korea, Stephen Bosworth, ruled out any resumption of the stalled six-party talks among the U.S., China, Russia, Japan, South Korea and North Korea while that program continues. The talks were started in 2003 in efforts to coax Pyongyang to give up its nuclear ambitions.

...

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/11/22/AR2010112206599.html

[AtheistCrusader]

40. And there it is.

Expect at least a limited war here, folks.

[keroro gunsou]

43. if i recall...

SK's president is the equivilant of a right-wing neo-con.... this is not going to end well....

[Frisbee]

39. I've got a feeling...

This is gonna end badly.

Edited to ad: Really hope I'm wrong! (and I usually am)

[de novo]

41. I don't think SK is going to accept anything less than a strong show

of force and a semblance of revenge. How long the tit-for-tat will last is the only unresolved question.