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Akoto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-28-10 12:50 PM
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Fire reported at Ore. Islamic center; no injuries
Source: Associated Press

CORVALLIS, Ore. (AP) -- Arson caused a fire on Sunday at an Islamic center that was the occasional place of worship for a Somali-born teen who two days ago was arrested on charges of plotting a terror attack in Portland, authorities said.

The fire at the Salman Al-Farisi Islamic Center was set early Sunday morning, said Carla Pusateri, a fire prevention officer for the Corvallis Fire Department.

She said "quite a bit of evidence" was left at the scene, which led her to believe the fire was intentionally set. No injuries have been reported.

The Islamic center was frequented by Mohamed Osman Mohamud, a 19-year-old held on charges of plotting to carry out a terror attack at a Christmas tree lighting ceremony in Portland on Friday.

Read more: http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/US_ISLAMIC_CENTER_FIRE?SITE=FLPET&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-28-10 01:35 PM
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sweetapogee Donating Member (449 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-28-10 01:45 PM
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2. I read the article,
didn't see anything in it about who or whom might have set a fire in this mosque. Do you know something or are you just speculating?
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kestrel91316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-28-10 01:53 PM
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3. Well you'd have to be blind, deaf, and mentally challenged to not
be able to figure this one out. Beck, Coulter, Rushbo, Caribou Barbie, O'Devill, and Bachmann, among others, have basically been calling for violent attacks against muslims and islamic places of worship for years now.

And do you REALLY think a liberal would attack that guy's house of worship? SERIOUSLY? WE actually take freedom of religion seriously in this country, as opposed to the RW, who supports it only with respect to THEIR brand of religion.
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sweetapogee Donating Member (449 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-28-10 07:04 PM
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7. several things my friend
Edited on Sun Nov-28-10 07:14 PM by sweetapogee
First, I'm a volunteer firefighter and while not as informed as you are, I do have extensive training in arson detection and investigation. In my time in the fire service, I have been involved in quite a number or arson fires, from the firefighter on the scene perspective and from the later investigation up to and including prosecution.

I have been involved in two church arsons within the last 5 years, neither one was a professional job, as most aren't, just a bunch of unhappy 20 something males looking to make a point. Just recently, Nov 18 I attended a rather large fire at a christian retreat where the place was burnt to the ground, here is a link to the local newspaper story... http://www.tnonline.com/node/152911 No one is saying that muslims or any other competing group set this arson fire or any of the other ones I've been involved in. In fact no one tried to pin the blame on any group, what everyone wanted was to find the arsonist and put an end to the fires.

But at any rate, you have no right to point the finger at anyone without any kind of proof. Arson is a serious crime and a real danger to firefighters, life and property. The insurance company will mount a rather detailed investigation and if you have any proof of someone committing arson then contact them (or the fire marshall) otherwise keep it to yourself. And finally you have a lot of damn nerve implying that I'm in any way mentally challenged when it come to this subject. I will put my fire service credentials up against yours any day of the week.

You are doing our cause no favors by blindly speculating as to a motive or pointing to suspects without proof.

PS on edit: might I remind you that someone set fire to barbie's church a few years ago and I don't remember any pukes speculating that it was members of the local mosque or what-ever shrine trying to run them out of town. In fact, if memory serves, most here were joyful on the occasion which is a shame because few fires are as dangerous to put out (from a firefighter perspective) than a church fire. We have to be better than the pukes, you disagree?
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Blandocyte Donating Member (830 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-28-10 07:59 PM
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8. I think the poster was asking, not accusing
that would explain the question mark at the end of the sentence. Now, if you'll excuse me, I have to attend surgical training for my job duties as a dog shelter volunteer.
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sweetapogee Donating Member (449 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-28-10 09:26 PM
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16. is there
Edited on Sun Nov-28-10 09:35 PM by sweetapogee
a requirement to master basic english comprehension at your shelter? <----note the question mark
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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-28-10 02:10 PM
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5. I'd call them Hateful Fundies, or just assholes. Rednecks? Compassionate Conservatives?
I'd not broadbrush a whole religion based on the actions of 1, or some, of the assholery fundamentalists within it.
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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-28-10 01:57 PM
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4. Don't blame a whole group for the actions of one asshole.
Eye for an eye and it never ends.
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Posteritatis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-28-10 02:15 PM
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6. Is this the second one of these in the last two days or the first? I only saw a headline earlier. nt
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-28-10 08:12 PM
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kpete Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-28-10 08:36 PM
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10. Arson at Oregon Bomb Plot Suspect's Mosque
Source: CBS

Arson at Oregon Bomb Plot Suspect's Mosque
Islamic Center Attended by Somali-Born Teen Charged in Plotting Terror Attack Burned Sunday, No Injuries Reported

(CBS/AP) Last Updated 4:53 p.m. ET

Anger over a Somali-born teen's failed plan to blow up a van full of explosives during Portland's Christmas tree lighting ceremony erupted in arson on Sunday when a fire damaged an Islamic center frequented by the suspect, authorities said.

Police don't know who started the blaze or exactly why, but they believe the Islamic center in Corvallis was targeted because terror suspect Mohamed Osman Mohamud, 19, occasionally worshipped there.

Yosof Wanly, the imam at the Salman Alfarisi Islamic Center, said he was advised by friends to take his family out of their home because of the potential threat of hate crime, and members decried the alleged arson attack. No one was injured, and the fire was contained to one room.

"We know how it is, we know some people due to ignorance are going to perceive of these things and hold most Muslims accountable," Wanly said. "We do what we can, but it's a tough situation."


Read more: http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2010/11/28/national/main7096810.shtml
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-28-10 08:36 PM
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laconicsax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-28-10 08:36 PM
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12. The mosque condemned the bomb plot the day before the arson.
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alp227 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-28-10 08:36 PM
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13. what's WRONG with people??? n/t
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sam sarrha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-28-10 08:36 PM
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14. which people...??
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AsahinaKimi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-28-10 08:36 PM
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15. Thanks for
The Hate, FOX NEWS... :sarcasm: :grr:
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47of74 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-28-10 10:45 PM
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17. I want to ask the dumb fucks who did this thing...
What exactly they think all this violence will accomplish?
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Alamuti Lotus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-29-10 04:46 AM
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18. Exactly what can be expected following the irresponsible hysteria whipped up by the feds and media
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