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cal04
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Sat Jan-01-11 11:45 AM Original message |
Kucinich: GOP push against healthcare law could revive single-payer push |
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fascisthunter
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Sat Jan-01-11 11:46 AM Response to Original message |
1. Indeed! Thanks Pukes (NT) |
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LARED
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Sat Jan-01-11 11:47 AM Response to Original message |
2. I want what Kucinich is smoking nt |
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Jackpine Radical
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Sat Jan-01-11 11:51 AM Response to Reply #2 |
3. That would be nice, but I like to share. |
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truedelphi
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Sat Jan-01-11 08:28 PM Response to Reply #2 |
51. Obama was smoking the same stuff back in 2004, when |
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Tx4obama
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Sun Jan-02-11 02:57 AM Response to Reply #51 |
71. BUT when Obama ran for president he ALWAYS said the single-payer was NOT |
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No Elephants
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Sun Jan-02-11 05:59 AM Response to Reply #71 |
77. BUT when Obama ran for president he ALWAYS said the public option was essential. |
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truedelphi
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Sun Jan-02-11 04:41 PM Response to Reply #77 |
119. Yeah, I know, no elephants. |
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No Elephants
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Sun Jan-02-11 05:01 PM Response to Reply #119 |
122. I recall very well, not that specific statement, but one very like it. |
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Sun Jan-02-11 11:42 AM Response to Reply #71 |
99. we need to start from scratch. |
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sendero
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Sun Jan-02-11 08:04 AM Response to Reply #2 |
85. Obama should have smoked it two years ago.. |
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Sat Jan-01-11 11:52 AM Response to Original message |
4. Think About It - This Is A Great Strategy To Get The Repugs To Back Off Repeal Of HCR...... |
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nyy1998
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Sat Jan-01-11 01:01 PM Response to Reply #4 |
7. Well he made some very good points that every Dem defending this bill should use |
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eridani
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Sun Jan-02-11 03:22 AM Response to Reply #7 |
72. Limiting medical loss ratios have no effect whatsoever on premiums |
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customerserviceguy
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Sat Jan-01-11 02:04 PM Response to Reply #4 |
12. Some threat |
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Skink
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Sat Jan-01-11 05:11 PM Response to Reply #12 |
36. The next great President we have will campaign on and establish single payer. |
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No Elephants
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Sun Jan-02-11 06:43 AM Response to Reply #36 |
79. Dream on. |
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avaistheone1
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Sun Jan-02-11 12:19 PM Response to Reply #79 |
105. Thanks for reminding us. |
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No Elephants
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Sun Jan-02-11 02:26 PM Response to Reply #105 |
110. Damned death panels! |
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Ken Burch
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Sat Jan-01-11 09:21 PM Response to Reply #12 |
59. Clearly, what Dennis MEANT |
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No Elephants
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Sun Jan-02-11 06:32 AM Response to Reply #12 |
78. Gee, I thought we already worked and donated for that from 11/04 thru 11/08. (Pls see Reply 77,) |
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RBitt
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Sun Jan-02-11 07:31 AM Response to Reply #12 |
83. The Dems killed single payer |
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sendero
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Sun Jan-02-11 08:07 AM Response to Reply #83 |
86. Well it is certainly a "fact in evidence". |
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me b zola
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Sat Jan-01-11 02:10 PM Response to Reply #4 |
13. Push back from them left |
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MadLinguist
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Sat Jan-01-11 03:12 PM Response to Reply #13 |
22. Well, exactly!!! that is what should have been tried from the get-go |
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Enthusiast
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Sat Jan-01-11 03:46 PM Response to Reply #13 |
24. Refreshing ain't it? |
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me b zola
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Mon Jan-03-11 01:47 AM Response to Reply #24 |
125. Yes indeedy! |
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Larry L. Burks
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Sat Jan-01-11 02:42 PM Response to Reply #4 |
17. I'm with you. Go Dennis go. |
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No Elephants
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Sun Jan-02-11 06:55 AM Response to Reply #17 |
80. Between the DLC, er, I mean the DNC, the Citizens United decision and the historic |
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MilesColtrane
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Sat Jan-01-11 02:53 PM Original message |
Only problem is we couldn't get single payer with a Democratic majority. |
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Enthusiast
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Sat Jan-01-11 04:01 PM Response to Original message |
26. Hardly. |
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nannah
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Sat Jan-01-11 04:59 PM Response to Reply #26 |
35. reversing direction on a narrow dirt road with steep drop off |
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Enthusiast
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Sun Jan-02-11 05:09 AM Response to Reply #35 |
75. Thank you, nannah. |
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No Elephants
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Sun Jan-02-11 08:02 AM Response to Reply #35 |
84. I am tired of being cynical, too, even though I only started being |
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nannah
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Sun Jan-02-11 12:18 PM Response to Reply #84 |
104. your words make just as much sense as do mine |
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No Elephants
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Sun Jan-02-11 04:28 PM Response to Reply #104 |
117. You seem like a wonderful poster. I look forward to reading more of your posts. |
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nannah
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Sun Jan-02-11 04:50 PM Response to Reply #117 |
120. thank you :) |
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Beartracks
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Sun Jan-02-11 02:49 AM Response to Reply #26 |
70. What's the evidence of this awakening? |
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Enthusiast
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Sun Jan-02-11 05:18 AM Response to Reply #70 |
76. 70% + of the American people polled |
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No Elephants
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Sun Jan-02-11 08:17 AM Response to Reply #76 |
87. Only until the NRA, Koch brothers/Tea Party, RW media, etc. really ramped up. |
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Sat Jan-01-11 06:54 PM Response to Original message |
42. We could have had single payer had the WH not wanted Romneycare |
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dflprincess
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Sat Jan-01-11 10:54 PM Response to Original message |
63. They never made a serious run at single payer. |
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No Elephants
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Sun Jan-02-11 08:32 AM Response to Reply #63 |
88. Single payor was off the table from the primaries. |
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Donnachaidh
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Sun Jan-02-11 12:14 AM Response to Original message |
68. *couldn't get it*?Single payer was NEVER on the backroom deal made for the legislation |
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No Elephants
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Sun Jan-02-11 07:05 AM Response to Original message |
81. And we needed only 50 plus Biden. But I have less than zero problem with at least appearing feisty, |
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Sat Jan-01-11 11:54 AM Response to Original message |
5. They actually think people favor keeping the insurance and pharmaceutical |
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Drale
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Sat Jan-01-11 12:42 PM Response to Original message |
6. Wouldn't that be ironic |
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freshwest
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Sat Jan-01-11 01:07 PM Response to Reply #6 |
9. Think he'll weep for joy? I know I would. |
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Drale
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Sat Jan-01-11 01:10 PM Response to Reply #9 |
10. O he'll be crying alright but not in joy |
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freshwest
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Sat Jan-01-11 01:36 PM Response to Reply #10 |
11. Because he'll lose the insurance company checks to hand out on the floor of Congress. |
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roody
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Sat Jan-01-11 01:01 PM Response to Original message |
8. We'll get it state by state. California is first. |
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Flatulo
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Sat Jan-01-11 02:20 PM Response to Reply #8 |
14. Be careful - Massachusetts got it first - right in the keister. |
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Enthusiast
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Sat Jan-01-11 04:04 PM Response to Reply #14 |
28. That is why we |
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No Elephants
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Sun Jan-02-11 09:18 AM Response to Reply #14 |
91. Word |
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sweetapogee
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Sat Jan-01-11 02:46 PM Response to Reply #8 |
18. kindly |
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truedelphi
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Sat Jan-01-11 08:34 PM Response to Reply #18 |
52. Well ya know, if we had Senators and Congress people that could think on their feet |
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Sat Jan-01-11 10:23 PM Response to Reply #52 |
62. so then |
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No Elephants
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Sun Jan-02-11 09:22 AM Response to Reply #62 |
92. Does your second question read as you intended? |
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truedelphi
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Sun Jan-02-11 04:24 PM Response to Reply #62 |
116. California is supposed to receive a good deal of money from the Feds to |
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freshwest
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Sun Jan-02-11 03:55 PM Response to Reply #52 |
114. Ow! That hurts. But true... |
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subterranean
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Sat Jan-01-11 06:58 PM Response to Reply #8 |
43. Actually, Vermont might be first. |
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roody
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Sat Jan-01-11 08:22 PM Response to Reply #43 |
50. I believe that smaller, in general, is more efficient. |
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No Elephants
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Sun Jan-02-11 09:03 AM Response to Reply #50 |
90. Any evidence on which that belief is based? Town in which I grew up was |
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roody
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Sun Jan-02-11 02:19 PM Response to Reply #90 |
109. Here is an example---solar energy production. |
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No Elephants
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Sun Jan-02-11 03:43 PM Response to Reply #109 |
113. ONE example? |
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freshwest
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Sat Jan-01-11 07:42 PM Response to Reply #8 |
46. Whatever it takes! |
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Sun Jan-02-11 03:37 AM Response to Reply #8 |
74. Vermont is going first, possibly this year if they can get a waiver. The problem with |
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Sat Jan-01-11 02:29 PM Response to Original message |
15. Yes please!! We still desperately need it. |
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No Elephants
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Sun Jan-02-11 09:37 AM Response to Reply #15 |
93. If you cannot enforce a right in court, you may have semantics or rhetoric about |
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Overseas
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Sun Jan-02-11 05:08 PM Response to Reply #93 |
123. I hope we will move forward and make that happen. //nt |
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earcandle
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Sat Jan-01-11 02:37 PM Response to Original message |
16. Lets do! We just lost our healthcare and I need some dental work. |
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No Elephants
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Sun Jan-02-11 08:48 AM Response to Reply #16 |
89. Even single payor, aka Medicare for all, would not cover dental. |
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earcandle
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Tue Jan-04-11 10:30 AM Response to Reply #89 |
129. Funny how that works... everything that comes into your mouth can source your disease, but the mouth |
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Sat Jan-01-11 02:52 PM Response to Original message |
19. I hope he is right..but I still wish that Dems, Libs, etc would not legitimize FAUX NOISE by |
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Sat Jan-01-11 03:52 PM Response to Reply #19 |
25. Because the alternative is to give Fox free reign and purity of message |
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Sat Jan-01-11 04:03 PM Response to Reply #19 |
27. Sounds like he used it as a forum to say what never gets said there, what Fox listeners never hear. |
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Sat Jan-01-11 07:42 PM Response to Reply #19 |
47. Every time a Dem goes on FAUX news: |
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Sat Jan-01-11 11:53 PM Response to Reply #19 |
67. Exactly right |
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BrklynLiberal
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Sun Jan-02-11 10:56 AM Response to Reply #67 |
98. I feel the same way you do.... |
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Sat Jan-01-11 02:53 PM Response to Original message |
20. Ahmen Dennis! |
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Sat Jan-01-11 03:08 PM Response to Original message |
21. What a guy! :) n/t |
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Sat Jan-01-11 03:42 PM Response to Original message |
23. Bring it, Dennis! |
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Sat Jan-01-11 04:04 PM Response to Original message |
29. Kick and rec |
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Sat Jan-01-11 04:08 PM Response to Original message |
30. As long as the DLC controls |
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Sun Jan-02-11 07:20 AM Response to Reply #30 |
82. Really? Have any evidence of that? Oh wait,,,,,never mind. |
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Sat Jan-01-11 04:30 PM Response to Original message |
31. talk talk talk |
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Sat Jan-01-11 04:33 PM Response to Original message |
32. Death panels. |
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robcon
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Sat Jan-01-11 04:43 PM Response to Original message |
33. I think Kucinich is really, really stretching on this. |
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Sat Jan-01-11 04:50 PM Response to Reply #33 |
34. Necessity is the mother of invention |
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Sat Jan-01-11 06:27 PM Response to Reply #33 |
40. not this congress, probably not the next one either, but maybe... |
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Sat Jan-01-11 07:47 PM Response to Reply #40 |
49. The first step is recognizing that the 'reform' just passed will NOT |
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Sat Jan-01-11 08:50 PM Response to Reply #40 |
55. Maybe it will happen when we have a Democratic president and majorities in both houses. |
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Mon Jan-03-11 01:04 AM Response to Reply #55 |
124. we also need a public educated on the issue |
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Sun Jan-02-11 10:08 AM Response to Reply #33 |
95. Depends on his reasons for saying it. Since when is every pronouncement by a politician |
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Tue Jan-04-11 10:43 AM Response to Reply #33 |
130. Who cares? |
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Sat Jan-01-11 05:22 PM Response to Original message |
37. I luvs ya Dennis! Keep up with the work... |
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Cleita
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Sat Jan-01-11 06:16 PM Response to Original message |
38. I think making Medicare available to everyone who |
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Sat Jan-01-11 06:21 PM Response to Original message |
39. Let's hope. |
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Sat Jan-01-11 06:32 PM Response to Original message |
41. Single payer |
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Sat Jan-01-11 07:03 PM Response to Reply #41 |
44. Me, too! And if Kucinich's seat somehow disappears in Ohio, let's get him into the Senate! |
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Cleita
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Sat Jan-01-11 08:41 PM Response to Reply #44 |
54. Excellent idea. |
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Sat Jan-01-11 07:26 PM Response to Original message |
45. YES, yesssss! nt |
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saras
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Sat Jan-01-11 07:43 PM Response to Original message |
48. Brokerage jobs?? |
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watstearns
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Sat Jan-01-11 08:41 PM Response to Original message |
53. Petition for Federal Election Reform |
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Sat Jan-01-11 09:42 PM Response to Reply #53 |
61. Thanks! I will share that on Facebook! nt |
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Sun Jan-02-11 10:45 AM Response to Reply #53 |
97. Thanks, done. |
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lib2DaBone
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Sat Jan-01-11 08:56 PM Response to Original message |
56. Scrap the big gift to Big Insurance...we can't wait until 2014...Single Payer NOW.. |
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Sat Jan-01-11 08:59 PM Response to Original message |
57. State by state, and |
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Sat Jan-01-11 09:09 PM Response to Original message |
58. yeah...sure... |
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patrice
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Sat Jan-01-11 09:39 PM Response to Original message |
60. We should take a stand to defend Medicare Reform, so that it can become Medicare for All and thence |
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Sat Jan-01-11 11:10 PM Response to Original message |
64. single payer is dead. I wish they'd quit wasting time on the past. |
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bhikkhu
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Sun Jan-02-11 01:01 PM Response to Reply #64 |
107. The best way to "save" social security is to leave it alone |
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Sat Jan-01-11 11:45 PM Response to Original message |
65. Seems like easing the suffering of the sick |
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Doctor_J
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Sat Jan-01-11 11:50 PM Response to Original message |
66. It might make pigs fly over my house too |
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Sun Jan-02-11 12:40 AM Response to Original message |
69. Are the unions willing to negotiate away their healthcare now? |
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bread_and_roses
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Sun Jan-02-11 11:49 AM Response to Reply #69 |
103. "Cadillac plans" is Right-Wing framing - and those plans are not "free" to workers |
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Chipster
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Sun Jan-02-11 03:22 AM Response to Original message |
73. Health Care Costs To Bankrupt US in 7-8 Years |
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mdmc
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Sun Jan-02-11 10:06 AM Response to Original message |
94. another chance to fold! |
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Sun Jan-02-11 10:27 AM Response to Original message |
96. I favor Medicare for All, but feel that's only a step toward a single payer national health system. |
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bhikkhu
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Sun Jan-02-11 01:00 PM Response to Reply #96 |
106. I suspect we are subsidizing massive ad campaigns |
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No Elephants
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Sun Jan-02-11 04:54 PM Response to Reply #96 |
121. I do not agree with your entire post, but thanks for a very thoughtful post. |
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Sun Jan-02-11 11:44 AM Response to Original message |
100. Dennis is an honorable politician. |
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robcon
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Sun Jan-02-11 01:15 PM Response to Reply #100 |
108. I strongly disagree with your statement |
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Sun Jan-02-11 03:02 PM Response to Reply #108 |
112. Heh. Even at his worst, Dennis would do way better than our current president |
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freshwest
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Sun Jan-02-11 04:01 PM Response to Reply #108 |
115. Just look around. |
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Sun Jan-02-11 04:34 PM Response to Reply #108 |
118. No, that is only another way of saying any electorate deserves the government it has and only |
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Tue Jan-04-11 09:38 AM Response to Reply #108 |
128. I didn't say we didn't need him and more like him. |
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Sun Jan-02-11 11:45 AM Response to Original message |
101. I hope this backfires on those GOP asssholes...for good reason!! n/t |
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Sun Jan-02-11 11:49 AM Response to Original message |
102. Gee, lemons make lemonade? |
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ClassWarrior
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Sun Jan-02-11 02:41 PM Response to Reply #102 |
111. Yummy! Pour me one! |
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Mon Jan-03-11 09:56 PM Response to Reply #111 |
126. ! |
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Mon Jan-03-11 10:22 PM Response to Original message |
127. "...we'll have a single-payer system," |
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