States to push immigration reform

[AlphaCentauri]

Source: UPI

Several states are expected to propose bills to fight illegal immigration in 2011, similar to a tough law enacted by Arizona in 2010, officials said.

Additionally, at least five states will start a coordinated effort to cancel automatic citizenship for children born in the United States to illegal immigrant parents, The New York Times reported.

However, few people expect progress on immigration issues when Congress reconvenes next week because Republicans, which now control the House, oppose an overhaul of immigration laws promised by President Obama, the newspaper said.

"The federal government's failure to enforce our border has functionally turned every state into a border state," said Randy Terrill, a Republican representative in Oklahoma. "This is federalism in action. The states are stepping in and filling the void left by the federal government."



Read more: http://www.upi.com/Top_News/US/2011/01/01/States-to-push-immigration-reform/UPI-66871293898333/

[COLGATE4]

1. Just another Rethug huge waste of the states' taxpayers' money.

NFW will any of these laws pass Constitutional muster, but they can spend a whole chunk of change defending these POS laws through the appellate process. After all, why spend your scarce resources on stupid programs like Medicaid, when you can instead spend them on defending stupid laws?:sarcasm:

[AlphaCentauri]

2. They have not calculated the price to deport 11 millions illegals yet

Apprehension: $18,310

Detention: $3,355

Legal processing: $817

Transportation: $1,000

In total, that’s $23,480 for each of the 392,000 people the U.S. removed last year, or $9,204,944,000.


And as long as the number of undocumented immigrants in the country remains steady at about 11 million, which is highly unlikely, it'll only take another 28 years or so to deport everyone.

[jwirr]

3. Bingo.

[Andy823]

7. A better idea

Is to go after the EMPLOYER, not those who come here to work without proper papers! What republicans want is NO reform because they like it the way it is, workers that will work for less money, they don't have to pay any benefits, they can exploit the this labor force, and they drive down wages for those who are legal, need work, and are willing to work no matter how low the wages may be!

We need "REAL" reform, and the best way is to fine employers who hire illegal workers huge fines, and if they continue to hire them, put them in jail! We can process those who really want to work here, match them with employers who "REALLY" need workers, not just those who want to cut wages and drop benefits, and we can screen out those who are only here to engage in criminal activities! This is what republicans DON'T want! They love to use this problem as a wedge issue in every election, and if we actually do have REAL reform they can't do that anymore!

Going after the employers would also not cost the government, but would actually help with the fines put on those employers!

[AlphaCentauri]

8. fine employers before or after immigration reform?

Self deportations is a brilliant GOP idea

[silver10]

11. I totally agree

The repukes have slanted the whole situation to their advantage, and their idiot followers have completely bought into it. On the one hand, companies love hiring illegals who will work for less wages and no benefits because in many cases charities (Catholic church to a large extent) and emergency rooms (not sure to what extent welfare or food stamps or any other help from the government takes place) fill in the gaps for them and are subsidizing these businesses. On the other hand, the average repuke resents any money going to help these people and blames the democrats for allowing illegals into the country and taking tax dollars off of the rest of us.

If companies aren't hiring them, then why have they come here and receive employment? Only democrat corporations
(lol) are hiring them?

Fine companies a million dollars for each illegal that they hire, and you will see how fast the situation resolves itself - this is of course before immigration reform takes place. Because many of these poor people have been taken advantage of, the damage is done, and they have made a home here - their children have been born here or came here at very young ages.

Repukes like to create the problems, and the deficits and debts, but blame others and want them to pay for their bills.

[primavera]

14. You mean... go after campaign contributors?!

I'm shocked you would suggest such a thing, shocked, I say! :eyes:

[One_Life_To_Give]

15. Fines are just a cost of doing buisiness to them

Lets put the employers behind bars, along with the accompanying loss of voting rights and gun ownership privileges.
I am sure we can free up some space by paroling non-violent drug offenders.

That would get their attention in a way that fines no matter how large never can.

[Rage for Order]

12. Where do those numbers come from?

And even if one concedes, for the sake of argument, that those numbers are accurate, it's still less than the cost of housing one inmate in a detention facility for one year. 26% of all federal penitentiary inmates are non-citizens. The http://www.justice.gov/jmd/2010factsheets/pdf/prisons-detention.pdf">budget for the Dept of Corrections in 2010 was $7.5 billion, and there were http://www.bop.gov/news/quick.jsp#1">209,714 federal inmates as of November 27, 2010. Doing the math, that equates to $7,500,000,000 / 209,714 = $35,763 per year to house each inmate. That's 52% more expensive than the $23,480 amount that you've put forth.

[AlphaCentauri]

13. Immigrants with no criminal background are not held for years in custody

most resources are spend in apprehension squads

[EFerrari]

5. Obama, for better or worse, has been much more active than BushCo

on illegal immigration. This is flat out Orwellian.

[timo]

4. oklahoma

already has a strict immigration law on the books, and did way before Az EVER tried to get theirs done....why didnt the feds crack down on that??? hb 1804

[AlphaCentauri]

6. Republicans' top New Year's resolution is to trim government spending

How are they going to pay for deportations?

[muntrv]

9. Uh, do the states have the legal right to nullify the 14th Amendment?

Citizenship is a federal matter, not state.

[silver10]

10. If you are born in America, you are an American

Reading the Constitution AND the Bill of Rights should be beneficial for congress.