Healthcare repeal bill coming before Obama's annual address

[Joanne98]

Source: The Hill

The incoming chairman of the House Energy and Commerce Committee said Sunday that Republicans will bring up a healthcare repeal measure before President Obama even delivers his State of the Union address this month.

"I think there wil be a significant number of Democrats who will join us," Rep. Fred Upton (R-Mich.) said on "Fox News Sunday."

Upton said that leaders are counting on Democrats who voted against the massive healthcare reform package to do so again, coupled with greater GOP numbers.

"I don't think we're going to be that far off from having the votes to override a veto," he said.



Read more: http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/135589-healthcare-repeal-bill-coming-before-obamas-annual-address

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I hope that now the holidays are over we get some leadership from our left-wing organizations. Why do Republicans think a???? "I think there wil be a significant number of Democrats who will join us,"..

That is a sign that there is ZERO leadership in our party.

Since there appears to be a VACUME in the official party, we need someone else to move in and do something about Dems who think they can run off the reservation anytime they want.

Maybe Moveon can step up. Dems who vote with the GOP need to be told in no uncertain terms that they will be fired in 2012.

It's ridiculous that we have no leaders. Just a huge mess with everybody running around in circles.

We need people to lead. If they can't do that they can just GO somewhere else. What a joke.

[chelsea0011]

1. Hopefully, some dem tries to attach an ammendment to also end

government sponsored congressional healthcare in the same bill.

[elocs]

2. First of all you have to believe what Republicans say is possible,

second, you have to care about what they say. That's all pretty big talk before anything happens.

[Champion Jack]

3. LOL! +10000000000000000

[Joanne98]

5. Well since we had traitor dems voting with them for the last two years..

I'd say it's possible. I just want something done about it NOW before it even gets going.

[elocs]

17. Just because something is possible does not mean it is likely.

I doubt if many, if any, of the traitor dems are in safe Democratic districts where they are assured of reelection if they move to the left. If these traitor dems are fired it is likely they will be replaced by Republicans who might then be able to attain a veto proof majority on anything that comes down the pike.

[rhett o rick]

25. Many of the traitor dems have been replaced with republicans. you cant count them twice.

They know how many republicans they have but exaggerate on the number of Dem's.

[LibDemAlways]

4. I suspect the R's will try to pick and choose among which

aspects to repeal. They'll want to get rid of anything that does anyone any good, but they'll leave the private insurance mandate in place. They're not going to wreck corporate America's coming cash cow.

[Skink]

6. obama could veto.

[RBInMaine]

7. There was enough "LEADERSHIP" in the last two years to pass HISTORIC amounts of PROGRESSIVE laws.

[RBInMaine]

8. These idiots know this is political theater, and that they LOSE on the popular aspects of the bill.

[RBInMaine]

9. Go Right Ahead ! I FUCKING LOVE IT. The GOP agenda: "Create NOTHING and GO BACKWARDS." They are

FUCKING DOOMED IN 2012. This will only continue to energize Obama, Dems, and the Dem rank and file for 2012, and it will define the PUKES as the FUCKWADS that they are. Yeah, go ahead and tell parents they can't keep their kids on their policies until they are 26, and that people will be kicked off their insurance if they get sick or denied coverage for having pre-existing conditions. Also, go ahead and try to repeal the student loan attachments. Go ahead. Make my my fucking day!
Americans don't want to re-fight this thing. They want a JOBS focus, and they want to MOVE ON.

The PUKES are totally misreading the election results.

[Skink]

12. republicans know who they work for.

The PUKES are totally misreading the election results.


The corporations that put them there expect them to do something about HCR.

[RBInMaine]

14. True. So let them suck the asses of the TeaScum and the ins. co.'s. And they are DOOMED in 2012.

[lobodons]

10. Only a few votes away from Veto

Some see 20 votes in the Senate as a "few" I guess..??

[RBInMaine]

15. Repeal WILL NOT PASS ! It doesn't have the votes in the Senate, and a veto couldn't be overriden.

[dballance]

11. They're Just Showing How Pro-Life They Are Again

How can we be the only country without health care, without mandatory sick pay and without mandatory vacation?

[RBInMaine]

13. These assholes are COMPLETELY misreading the election. I FUCKING LOVE IT !

First, they can not get the votes to pass a repeal in the Senate, let alone override a veto. So fuck them.

Second, THEY ARE COMPLETELY MISREADING THE ELECTION RESULTS. Except for TeaBaggers, the GOP votes were NOT a mandate of "repeal everything done in the last two years." It was about FRUSTRATION OVER THE UNEMPLOYMENT RATE AND THE VOTER ENTHUSIASM GAP. Plain and simple. The moderate Indies who voted the House back to the pukes did so out of frustration over the unemployment rate, NOT because they are again in love with the GOP. They want ECONOMIC PROGRESS which means JOBS. They also want the parties to work together for CENTRIST policies.

The PUKES are going to try to lead according to the mandates of their far-right wing TeaBagger base which is NOT who actually elected them. Frustrated Indies elected them, and if they go too far right, THEY will UNELECT them in two years. I LOVE IT !!!!

[onenote]

16. upton needs a new calculator

The repubs would need 290 votes for a "veto proof" repeal (not that its a serious issue since the Senate will not vote to repeal.)

There are 243 repubs in the 112th Cong, which means Upton needs to pick up 37 Democrats. While 34 Democrats voted against the bill initially, more than half of them are gone and replaced by repubs. There are only 14 Democrats who voted against the Health Care bill still in Congress and not all of them are guaranteed votes against repeal.

[Unvanguard]

21. Since when could Republicans do math?

:)

(Thanks for finding the numbers, I was going to check but was too lazy.)

[Demeter]

22. 37 Democrats? Piece of cake!

And THEN we get Medicare for all....

[CBHagman]

27. Thanks for the detailed response...

...and the context.

[Safetykitten]

18. The cows coming home that were given away for free to eat in the barn of stupidity.

[Unvanguard]

19. Dear Rep. Upton: Have you heard of this thing called the "US Senate"?

Remember it?

[Dark]

20. It'll be a nice opener, but the real show is the debt ceiling.

Repubs won't dare defund Medicare/SS. But their younger tea partiers (50s and 40s) will go insane about increasing the nat'l debt, and take it out on the Repubs.

It's going to be fun to watch as the tea party turns on the Repubs and the older teabaggers and "younger" teabaggers turn on each other.

[sweetapogee]

23. I don't think the

pukes will defund SS and MC. At least I don't think they will make a public display of it. I believe you are correct on the debt ceiling though. Possibly the pigs will set the debt limit and let the administration set the priorities so that we take all the heat. This is why control of the house is better imo than the senate or executive office. And this is why, again imo why it was a mistake for the 111th congess to have delayed approving the budget until after the election. However, if they had done so, given the current economic situation, the possibility exists that we would have done ever worse than we did.

[high density]

33. The interesting thing about the debt ceiling to me

is that the GOP has successfully turned this into another red/blue issue thanks to our stupid media. There is no right or wrong on this issue, it is something that just has to be done to pay for the decisions made in the past. These decisions include the two wars of choice from Bush and the recently re-upped tax cuts for millionaires and billionaires that create zero jobs.

If politicians want to tackle the debt, they need to do it in another manner outside of playing politics over the debt ceiling. Given that they were all just climaxing a couple of weeks ago about more tax cuts, which will extend the deficit and debt even further, it seems interesting, but not surprising, that the bleats of "don't raise the debt ceiling" are now out there.

[rhett o rick]

24. Wont repeal increase the deficit? nm

[CBHagman]

26. Ever hear of the Senate?

Calm down, everyone. Just because the House 'cans want to deliver a great big middle finger to President Obama (They learned their manners from Joe "You lie!" Wilson) doesn't mean Upton's claims about the number of votes holds any water. "Not far off" doesn't mean a thing if you are still far off, and it means even less if the Senate isn't playing ball.

And I wish to God people would stop acting as though legislation is passed unilaterally, or as though the country was (pick one)75 percent pro-life white male Christian gun owners or 75 percent vegan atheist peace activists. Reality is somewhere in the middle.

This is a stunt on the part of the House 'cans. That's all.

[pacalo]

28. Whenever Democrats are all over the place with a Democratic president

there's a leadership problem.

[grahamhgreen]

29. COMPROMISE! Just repeal the mandate and screw big insurance.

[dflprincess]

31. Oh please.

No matter how much the Republicans may claim they don't like the mandate (plays well to the masses) the one part of bill they won't repeal is that which transfers billions of public & private dollars into the hands of the insurance industry crooks.

[grahamhgreen]

32. Exactly why we should offer this as a compromise, IMHO!

[dflprincess]

34. Not that I don't agree with you

but it would be out of character for Obama and the Senate Democrats to agree to a compromise that didn't benefit their corporate masters.

[grahamhgreen]

35. Too true... :-(

[grahamhgreen]

30. Obamas gonna miss having to fight progressives...

[TomCADem]

36. GOP lawmaker: Go after health care piece by piece

Source: Associated Press

WASHINGTON – A top House Republican says GOP lawmakers will go after President Barack Obama's health care law piece by piece to see if they can make it crumble.

That effort, says Rep. Fred Upton of Michigan, will follow a vote to repeal the health care law outright. Such a vote could come early in the new year after the GOP takes control of the House.

Upton is the incoming chairman of the House Energy and Commerce Committee, and he says that repealing the health care law is his top priority. He's hoping for a vote before Obama's State of the Union address.

Repeal will be difficult because of the president's veto power. But Upton says he thinks Republicans can garner enough Democratic support to override a veto.


Read more: http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20110102/ap_on_re_us/us_health_care_republicans_1

[Angry Dragon]

37. Then he should be in favor of losing his federal health insurance

[No Elephants]

38. 2/3 of the Senate would override?

[proud2BlibKansan]

39. My new rep is also screaming about this

We started a facebook group demanding he give up his own health care. I think we're going to put a petition together as well.

[bluestateguy]

40. I'm curious as to where he thinks those votes will come from

Most of the Democrats who voted against it were voted out anyway (their fruitless effort to appease the teabag right wing was an obvious waste).

But OK, it will be a nice piece of red meat for their voters to pass it through the House. And that will be the end of it. Harry Reid won't even schedule it for a vote. You would need 4 Democrats for a majority, 13 for cloture and 20 to override a veto.

And Tom Harkin--who I DO trust--has already said that no bill will pass his committee without the funding.

[Hawkeye-X]

41. Unfortunately, Reid is going to table ALL Republican batshit ideas and legislation

PERMANENTLY. He'll be removing dual-track method to hold up business against the Rethuglians and show that they are obstructing needed and necessary laws.

[customerserviceguy]

42. The first piece will be the 1099 rule

requiring every business to report how much they pay to every supplier, if it's over $600 in a year. It makes no sense to have to tally up the expenses made to Staples and/or Office Depot, they probably report 100% of their income. Somebody pulled a figure out of their ass last year when trying to say how much tax revenue this part of the law would save.

How about implementing an e-Verify certificate for all wages deducted on business income tax returns? I'd bet that would raise a lot more money.

[crim son]

43. It is impossible for me to understand what rethugs are imagining

will be the long term result of dismantling our health care support system. Sick people can't work and are a huge burden on the system over their lives. People who go bankrupt paying for their bills can work, but not buy. Letting the sick simply die is an option but won't work in the long term because even conservatives are going to be irked when their children are denied insurance or care because of a preexisting condition they were born with, or acquired. It simply isn't sustainable. Don't these people care about their own descendents? I don't get it.

[Javaman]

44. Meh, bullshit and blather...

Obama's health care plan is basically mitt romneys.

So if the repukes go after it, what will they do? give more to the health care corps? LOL

So what else is new?

[harun]

45. Complete waste of time by the Repukes. Which is of course why they

are doing it.

Democrats need to be aggressive with this and for every step the Repukes take in repealing it, put forth stronger and stronger bills towards Single Payer.