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Harry Hope (100 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-04-11 02:07 PM Original message |
Heat closes Antarctic ice runway |
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notadmblnd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-04-11 02:16 PM Response to Original message |
1. -5 celcius is not freezing enough to maintain ice? |
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DavidDvorkin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-04-11 02:17 PM Response to Reply #1 |
2. Frozen solidly enough to support the weight and landing gear, I guess. |
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joshcryer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-04-11 02:24 PM Response to Reply #2 |
3. Yeah the planes that they're landing there are pretty big. |
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notadmblnd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-04-11 03:50 PM Response to Reply #2 |
11. 500 meters thick? |
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DavidDvorkin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-04-11 04:17 PM Response to Reply #11 |
13. Unless the temps are just under freezing |
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notadmblnd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-04-11 04:23 PM Response to Reply #13 |
15. I'm just trying to understand |
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Remmah2 (971 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-04-11 04:31 PM Response to Reply #15 |
18. Salt water |
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notadmblnd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-04-11 04:36 PM Response to Reply #18 |
20. that's a reasonable answer. |
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OnlinePoker (837 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-04-11 04:49 PM Response to Reply #18 |
23. It says "Inland" so it wouldn't be salt water that froze. n/t |
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Electric Monk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-05-11 03:26 AM Response to Reply #23 |
44. Antarctica has been surrounded by oceans for how long, again? |
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OnlinePoker (837 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-05-11 08:25 AM Response to Reply #44 |
45. So has Greenland...what's your point? |
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DavidDvorkin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-04-11 04:38 PM Response to Reply #15 |
21. Yes, 0 Celsius is freezing, by definition |
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jberryhill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-04-11 04:57 PM Response to Reply #21 |
27. No, it is a question of pressure |
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AtheistCrusader (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-04-11 05:16 PM Response to Reply #27 |
30. Bingo. |
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Xithras (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-04-11 05:24 PM Response to Reply #27 |
31. Yep, Pressure. |
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jberryhill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-04-11 05:28 PM Response to Reply #31 |
32. the Clapeyron equation |
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Xithras (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-04-11 05:51 PM Response to Reply #32 |
35. Lol! No, the Clausius–Clapeyron Relation |
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DavidDvorkin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-04-11 07:06 PM Response to Reply #27 |
39. Of course! I didn't even think of that. Duh. |
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justabob (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-04-11 08:13 PM Response to Reply #15 |
43. there is also friction that has to be considered nt |
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eyepaddle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-04-11 04:43 PM Response to Reply #11 |
22. I worked in the Antarctic, the surface gets too pitted and rough and can damage |
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dipsydoodle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-04-11 02:59 PM Response to Reply #1 |
6. Depends partly on |
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notadmblnd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-04-11 03:49 PM Response to Reply #6 |
9. in the desert though, I would imagine the lack of frost is a result of a lack of moisture |
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muriel_volestrangler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-04-11 04:27 PM Response to Reply #9 |
16. Strength of ice, like many materials, becomes much lower near its melting point |
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freedom fighter jh (490 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-04-11 05:42 PM Response to Reply #16 |
34. Like ice skates |
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dipsydoodle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-04-11 04:31 PM Response to Reply #9 |
19. Exactly - low humidity |
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jberryhill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-04-11 04:56 PM Response to Reply #1 |
26. Consider how ice skates work |
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Bandit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-04-11 07:31 PM Response to Reply #1 |
42. Salt water freezes at a lower temperature than normal water. |
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truthisfreedom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-04-11 02:39 PM Response to Original message |
4. It's called global warming for a reason. |
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Uncle Joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-04-11 02:53 PM Response to Original message |
5. Kicked and recommended. |
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Harry Hope (100 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-04-11 05:06 PM Response to Reply #5 |
28. This was too important to get lost. Not covered by the MSM. |
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Speck Tater (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-04-11 03:28 PM Response to Original message |
7. This could be also bad news for "Ice Road Truckers" in years to come. nt |
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Lautremont (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-04-11 03:40 PM Response to Reply #7 |
8. It already is. |
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Roland99 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-04-11 03:49 PM Response to Original message |
10. I just read Crichton's State of Fear |
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hatrack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-04-11 03:54 PM Response to Reply #10 |
12. He's dead, which saves him much effort in doing so . . . . |
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Roland99 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-04-11 04:23 PM Response to Reply #12 |
14. ha |
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Joanne98 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-04-11 04:29 PM Response to Original message |
17. I hope this is the end of Ice Road Truckers. |
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Javaman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-04-11 04:51 PM Response to Original message |
24. Isn't it summer in the souther hemisphere? nt |
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XemaSab (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-04-11 07:04 PM Response to Reply #24 |
38. Yes, it's summer there |
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FLAprogressive (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-04-11 04:53 PM Response to Original message |
25. But it SNOWED in AMERICA during WINTER....NO GLOBAL WARMING |
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caraher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-04-11 05:16 PM Response to Original message |
29. I'm not sure there's much cosmic significance here |
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Uncle Joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-04-11 05:34 PM Response to Reply #29 |
33. That begs the question of how in depth their climatic research of this area was |
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LawnKorn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-04-11 06:01 PM Response to Original message |
36. They listened to the deniers and blew $45 million on an airstrip that can't be used because of GW |
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Hugabear (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-04-11 06:26 PM Response to Original message |
37. Bet you this won't make Drudge Report |
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bongbong (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-04-11 07:18 PM Response to Original message |
40. A plot |
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OnlinePoker (837 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-04-11 07:23 PM Response to Original message |
41. They say above normal temperatures, but NOAA says not. |
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