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Hissyspit
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Thu Jan-13-11 10:46 AM Original message |
WikiLeaks Delivers Contribution to Bradley Manning Defence Fund |
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wtmusic
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Thu Jan-13-11 11:07 AM Response to Original message |
1. Sounds like Manning has confessed |
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Robb
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Thu Jan-13-11 11:11 AM Response to Original message |
2. So that's all Wikileaks has collected on Manning's behalf? |
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Hissyspit
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Thu Jan-13-11 11:15 AM Response to Reply #2 |
3. Did you miss this part?: |
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Robb
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Thu Jan-13-11 11:16 AM Response to Reply #3 |
4. PayPal "cut off" Wikileaks in December. |
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Hissyspit
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Thu Jan-13-11 11:17 AM Response to Reply #4 |
5. It's WikiLeaks fault if people don't donate? |
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Robb
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Thu Jan-13-11 11:20 AM Response to Reply #5 |
6. So your argument is that no one donated to Wikileaks for 8 months? |
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Hissyspit
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Thu Jan-13-11 11:21 AM Response to Reply #6 |
7. No. |
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Robb
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Thu Jan-13-11 11:47 AM Response to Reply #7 |
9. OK then. Why so little? |
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elias49
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Thu Jan-13-11 12:47 PM Response to Reply #9 |
12. What happened to logic? No Paypal=no $$ Is that hard? nt |
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Robb
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Thu Jan-13-11 12:51 PM Response to Reply #12 |
13. What about from May through December? |
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elias49
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Thu Jan-13-11 01:29 PM Response to Reply #13 |
15. Christmas shopping. |
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msanthrope
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Thu Jan-13-11 07:33 PM Response to Reply #13 |
24. Didja notice that it's 1% of Assange's book deal; less than1/3 of the promised 50k? |
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superduperfarleft
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Fri Jan-14-11 01:52 PM Response to Reply #24 |
40. What is it you have a problem with: the leaks or Assange personally? n/t |
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EFerrari
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Thu Jan-13-11 05:04 PM Response to Reply #2 |
20. Do you have anything to back that smear up, Robb? |
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Robb
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Thu Jan-13-11 05:44 PM Response to Reply #20 |
21. Oh, please. |
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EFerrari
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Thu Jan-13-11 06:06 PM Response to Reply #21 |
22. So, that is a "no". n/t |
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Robb
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Thu Jan-13-11 06:11 PM Response to Reply #22 |
23. Unless you're blind, no, it's pretty clear. |
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EFerrari
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Thu Jan-13-11 11:12 PM Response to Reply #23 |
32. And how do you come to that conclusion? Can you explain it |
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Robb
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Fri Jan-14-11 07:09 AM Response to Reply #32 |
33. To whom is *math* insulting? |
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reorg
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Fri Jan-14-11 01:24 PM Response to Reply #33 |
38. You appear somewhat confused |
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Robb
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Fri Jan-14-11 01:30 PM Response to Reply #38 |
39. So Assange "overestimated" with a number 26 times larger than Wau Holland collected? |
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superduperfarleft
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Fri Jan-14-11 01:53 PM Response to Reply #39 |
41. What is it you have a problem with: the leaks or Assange personally? n/t |
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reorg
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Fri Jan-14-11 01:58 PM Response to Reply #41 |
44. Well, obviously he is very concerned over Manning's defense fund |
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superduperfarleft
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Fri Jan-14-11 02:00 PM Response to Reply #44 |
45. . |
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Robb
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Fri Jan-14-11 02:16 PM Response to Reply #44 |
50. I'm willing to bet I've contributed more to Wikileaks over the years than most people on DU. |
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superduperfarleft
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Fri Jan-14-11 02:17 PM Response to Reply #50 |
51. So... |
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Robb
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Fri Jan-14-11 02:23 PM Response to Reply #51 |
54. You're trying, perhaps, to be civil, and I appreciate that. |
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superduperfarleft
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Fri Jan-14-11 02:29 PM Response to Reply #54 |
57. But people other than myself have already repeatedly explained why there may be financial |
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Robb
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Fri Jan-14-11 02:34 PM Response to Reply #57 |
59. And I've pointed out, just a few posts above this, that there were several months |
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reorg
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Fri Jan-14-11 02:43 PM Response to Reply #59 |
61. are you alleging the WHF solicited donations for Manning's defense and didn't forward the funds? |
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Robb
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Fri Jan-14-11 02:50 PM Response to Reply #61 |
63. I don't believe Wau Holland solicited a single dollar. |
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reorg
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Fri Jan-14-11 03:05 PM Response to Reply #63 |
64. okay, so are you alleging that WIKILEAKS has solicited contributions to Manning's defense fund |
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Robb
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Fri Jan-14-11 03:21 PM Response to Reply #64 |
66. They asked WHF, who apparently opined it was OK to do so. |
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reorg
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Fri Jan-14-11 03:48 PM Response to Reply #66 |
72. the defense fund has stated they have already enough |
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Robb
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Fri Jan-14-11 02:09 PM Response to Reply #41 |
46. We're discussing issues, not people. |
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superduperfarleft
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Fri Jan-14-11 02:10 PM Response to Reply #46 |
47. . |
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Robb
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Fri Jan-14-11 02:10 PM Response to Reply #47 |
48. Hopefully you'll do the same. |
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superduperfarleft
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Fri Jan-14-11 02:13 PM Response to Reply #48 |
49. I'll go ahead and respond, although I'm sure it'll be deleted. |
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Robb
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Fri Jan-14-11 02:18 PM Response to Reply #49 |
52. Again, I'd ask you to please try to address the issue without a personal attack. |
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superduperfarleft
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Fri Jan-14-11 02:23 PM Response to Reply #52 |
53. You and I clearly have a very different definition of "personal attack." |
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Robb
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Fri Jan-14-11 02:24 PM Response to Reply #53 |
55. If you could point to an ad hominem I've made, I'd love to see it. |
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superduperfarleft
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Fri Jan-14-11 02:26 PM Response to Reply #55 |
56. The ad hominem is the idea that the importance of the leaks are somehow diminished by |
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Robb
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Fri Jan-14-11 02:30 PM Response to Reply #56 |
58. And I've said that nowhere. To suggest I did is known as a "straw man." |
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superduperfarleft
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Fri Jan-14-11 03:46 PM Response to Reply #58 |
71. " ...Perhaps you can offer a defense of this paltry sum for Manning I've not thought of?" |
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Fri Jan-14-11 04:04 PM Response to Reply #71 |
74. Deleted message |
Robb
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Fri Jan-14-11 04:07 PM Response to Reply #71 |
75. I understand. |
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msanthrope
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Fri Jan-14-11 03:15 PM Response to Reply #41 |
65. I have a problem with Manning's defense not being paid--it will affect the outcome of his trial. |
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reorg
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Fri Jan-14-11 03:25 PM Response to Reply #65 |
67. The initial promise was probably well-meant, but ill-advised |
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superduperfarleft
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Fri Jan-14-11 03:50 PM Response to Reply #65 |
73. Fair enough, thank you for answering. n/t |
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sweetapogee
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Fri Jan-14-11 04:18 PM Response to Reply #21 |
76. both |
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LanternWaste
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Fri Jan-14-11 05:25 PM Response to Reply #2 |
78. Post hoc ergo prompter hoc. |
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xchrom
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Thu Jan-13-11 11:21 AM Response to Original message |
8. Awesome! Nt |
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xchrom
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Thu Jan-13-11 12:18 PM Response to Original message |
10. kick |
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elias49
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Thu Jan-13-11 12:44 PM Response to Original message |
11. Glad to hear it! |
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faz
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Thu Jan-13-11 01:04 PM Response to Original message |
14. Exclusive interview: Julian Assange on Murdoch, Manning |
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Joanne98
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Thu Jan-13-11 05:02 PM Response to Original message |
16. WikiLeaks Contributes $15,000 to Bradley Manning’s Defense |
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Thu Jan-13-11 05:02 PM Response to Reply #16 |
17. Deleted message |
patrice
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Thu Jan-13-11 05:02 PM Response to Reply #16 |
18. K&R |
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sabrina 1
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Thu Jan-13-11 05:02 PM Response to Reply #16 |
19. Biased reporting by Wired, which is no surprise, considering |
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msanthrope
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Thu Jan-13-11 07:35 PM Response to Reply #19 |
25. Well, why did they wait 6 months to pay? |
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sabrina 1
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Thu Jan-13-11 09:21 PM Response to Reply #25 |
26. Who handles Wikileaks finances? Do you know? |
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msanthrope
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Thu Jan-13-11 09:42 PM Response to Reply #26 |
27. Interestingly, Wikileaks took in 1.2 million apparently, through Wau Holland Foundation. |
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Robb
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Thu Jan-13-11 09:55 PM Response to Reply #27 |
28. Fairly damning numbers. The only move left |
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msanthrope
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Thu Jan-13-11 11:11 PM Response to Reply #28 |
31. I suspect it will be the latter. |
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Robb
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Fri Jan-14-11 07:30 AM Response to Reply #31 |
34. Another option struck me: Assange resigns. |
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msanthrope
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Fri Jan-14-11 03:28 PM Response to Reply #34 |
68. I don't think Assange will resign voluntarily. |
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sabrina 1
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Thu Jan-13-11 10:41 PM Response to Reply #27 |
29. Wired and the Wall St. Journal are very suspect sources |
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msanthrope
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Thu Jan-13-11 11:06 PM Response to Reply #29 |
30. You do realize that Wikileaks could clear this up, right? |
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sabrina 1
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Fri Jan-14-11 12:13 PM Response to Reply #30 |
35. Like what organizations? |
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Robb
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Fri Jan-14-11 01:01 PM Response to Reply #35 |
37. The Wau Holland Foundation is required to do so, as a nonprofit. |
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sabrina 1
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Fri Jan-14-11 02:46 PM Response to Reply #37 |
62. But what does that have to do with Wikileaks? |
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sabrina 1
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Fri Jan-14-11 03:40 PM Response to Reply #37 |
70. See post #60. As suspected, the smear appears to have |
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superduperfarleft
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Fri Jan-14-11 01:54 PM Response to Reply #35 |
43. "Like Daily Kos eg, or DU? What obligation do any of these organizations have to reveal their |
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reorg
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Fri Jan-14-11 02:36 PM Response to Reply #27 |
60. (Correction:) You will get to see the financial reports |
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sabrina 1
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Fri Jan-14-11 03:37 PM Response to Reply #60 |
69. I had a feeling this OP was distorted. Just looking at the |
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fascisthunter
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Fri Jan-14-11 12:23 PM Response to Original message |
36. wow... this thread is mind blowing |
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superduperfarleft
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Fri Jan-14-11 01:53 PM Response to Reply #36 |
42. Nah, just the usual smears and personal attacks from the posters who don't seem to have much else. |
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fascisthunter
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Fri Jan-14-11 05:12 PM Response to Reply #42 |
77. I Know... |
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midnight
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Fri Jan-14-11 10:27 PM Response to Original message |
79. Why is justice so expensive? 115,000 ...... |
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