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RamboLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-19-11 05:13 PM
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Record of President Obama's birth in 1961 is 'in the archives': Hawaii Gov. Neil Abercrombie
Source: NY Daily News

Officials in Hawaii have tracked down papers indicating that President Obama was indeed born in their state, according to its new governor.

Gov. Neil Abercrombie, who took office in December, told Honolulu's Star-Advertiser on Tuesday that "our investigation" indicates there is a recording of his birth.

"It actually exists in the archives, written down," he said.



Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/2011/01/19/2011-01-19_record_of_obamas_birth_is_in_the_archives_hawaii_gov.html



They won't believe him. Now they will accuse him that its conterfeit.
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AngryAmish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-19-11 05:15 PM
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1. And they will say: Record of his birth in KENYA!!!!!
Edited on Wed Jan-19-11 05:15 PM by AngryAmish
There is no talking to those people.
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thereismore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-19-11 05:16 PM
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2. They have moved on. He is not a natural born citizen even if he were born in the US.
:crazy:
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Ohio Joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-19-11 06:01 PM
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13. I actually had someone try to explain this to me
The "reasoning" was something along the lines that since his father was not a natural born citizen then he was not one. I just had to ask... Would that not mean none of us are natural born citizens? He said both my parents were, I don't know about you. I said really? How far back does that go? Your entire lineage all the way back were all natural born citizens of the US? Because once you find one that was not, all the rest that follow were not so you are not. He just looked at me dumbly so I smiled and walked away :D
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No Elephants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-20-11 06:18 AM
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33. There are many permutations, from Hawaii was not part of the U.S.A. when
he was born (in Hawaii) to he was really born in Kenya (supposedly per the word of a Kenyan relative). If you're interested in all the variations, just google. I bet there's even a wiki on it.
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Pirate Smile Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-19-11 05:16 PM
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3. They've already done this. It wont matter to the nut cases.
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bluestateguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-19-11 05:16 PM
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4. That's basically their game plan
Pimp conspiracy theories, demand documents.

When documents are produced that refute the conspiracy theories, say the documents are forged, thereby widening the conspiracy.

Repeat and rinse.
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Kennah Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-19-11 05:19 PM
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5. No one is going after the real issue here ...
... and that is the fact that George W. Bush was actually born in Hawaii. Since he was born in 1946, when Hawaii was not a state, then it was actually HE who was never legally allowed to run for President. This whole Kenya thing is just a red herring to take attention off of Hawaii and George W. Bush.

:tinfoilhat:
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dixiegrrrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-19-11 05:34 PM
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9. And that never came up during the election (s)?
Or did I miss it?
'Course, he was never legally elected, either.
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NutmegYankee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-19-11 05:55 PM
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12. It's a joke.
George W. Bush was born in New Haven, Conn. sadly...
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karynnj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-19-11 06:21 PM
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17. But, if we were as extreme as the birthers, we could argue that
Preston Bush was in the position of "creating" a record for his grandson - in case it were ever needed. There would be more "expectations" among the Bushes, than on the part of two middle class Kansans who moved to Hawaii for their daughter's half black son. The idea that they would have thought to get an American birth certificate and to further create an illusion by a Honolulu paper birth announcement.
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madamesilverspurs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-19-11 06:30 PM
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18. You say 'born'
I say "shat".


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dixiegrrrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-19-11 07:27 PM
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23. You make me laugh...this is good.
:hi:
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NutmegYankee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-19-11 09:42 PM
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26. I just wish he was
"shat" someplace else than the Nutmeg state.
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No Elephants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-20-11 06:27 AM
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34. How do you know? Did you ever see his original, long form birth certificate
with his footprints, hospital name and all? If not, we don't even know if he is from earth, do we?

I'm guessing he landed here from space. In fat, the more I think about it, the more likely it seems.

I'm suing!


(Not only RWers can "reason" like that.)
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feslen Donating Member (138 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-19-11 06:07 PM
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14. with the "birthers" its a racist thing
so why even bother defending against incurable morons?
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-19-11 11:14 PM
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30. The real issue is racism. nt
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Frisbee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-19-11 05:23 PM
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6. Well that will bring this issue to an end.
:sarcasm:, obviously.
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-19-11 05:29 PM
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7. Must be nice to have so few worries to be able to sit around
obsessing over Obama's birth certificate.

How charmed a life some people must live.

And for it to continue to be an issue that is addressed, those living that charmed life must still be obsessing....
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somone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-19-11 05:30 PM
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8. But but the ink and paper must be analyzed
Just ignore the fuckers
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slackmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-19-11 05:39 PM
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10. Oh no, not the Archives! They'll never find it in there.
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yodermon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-19-11 05:46 PM
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11. cue the elevens
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drm604 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-19-11 06:16 PM
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15. Doesn't matter.
By definition he's not a natural born citizen. The definition now specifically excludes anyone who is black and has a scary sounding middle name.
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zbdent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-19-11 06:18 PM
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16. they'll claim that Breitbart planted that there
and be their only admission of his faking shit ...
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-19-11 06:38 PM
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fascisthunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-19-11 07:12 PM
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20. It's Amazing what Right Wing Propaganda Does to some Folks
easily brainwashed, that's for sure
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bigworld Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-19-11 07:18 PM
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21. My guess on what's on it
Is that they likely put "Caucasian" as baby Barack's race. This is what was often done back in the early 60s to "help" a mixed race child. Just my opinion.

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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-19-11 07:20 PM
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22. You know, they keep talking about the birth certificate w/the little footprint --
I never ever had one of those, and when I've gotten certified copies, they didn't contain it either. Does that mean I was born in Kenya? :shrug:
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marasinghe Donating Member (754 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-19-11 07:43 PM
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24. it means you are an alien from an n-dimensional world system.
you do not have feet; you float through the air on a curtain of air contained within a rubber skirt; & you play multi-dimensional chess. which, of course, is more evidence against obama being a us citizen -- since he was playing multi-dimensional chess against the repukes in the election; and he is now playing multi-dimensional chess against us left-wingers in running the government.

:hi:
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-19-11 11:13 PM
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29. Whew! Well since I'm not Kenyan it means I can still run for President!
:hi:
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No Elephants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-20-11 06:32 AM
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35. Hospitals give one to Mom. Maybe your Mom has it or misplaced it
Edited on Thu Jan-20-11 06:41 AM by No Elephants
somewhere along the line? Or maybe you were not born in a hospital? Mine has my parents' names and professions, the name of the hospital and the dr. who delivered me, my time of birth, my footprints and a pretty gold seal someone stuck on it.

Certified copies are from the government, usually, the state capitol. They are abstracts, with minimal info. Mine does not even have my time of birth.
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Gormy Cuss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-20-11 12:28 PM
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39. What many don't realize is that the hospital-issued birth certificate isn't a legal document.
They're just fancy birth announcements. It's amazing to me that anyone over the age of 18 doesn't realize that.

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GoddessOfGuinness Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-19-11 07:54 PM
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25. Meanwhile there's no record of Boehner's birth, as the rock he crawled
out from under was blown away in order to mine coal.
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riverbendviewgal Donating Member (377 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-19-11 09:53 PM
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27. I will be looking for an apology
from my NJ Bubba brother...the nitwit is a birther.
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No Elephants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-20-11 06:43 AM
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36. Do not hold your breath.
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bobhuntsman Donating Member (54 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-19-11 10:20 PM
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28. this is nice. . .
Edited on Wed Jan-19-11 10:20 PM by bobhuntsman
but it ain't gonna shut 'em up. . .

nothing will.
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JI7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-19-11 11:26 PM
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31. but he is still black
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TomCADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-20-11 01:54 AM
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32. That Assumes They Want The Truth
They will just argue that it is part of an elaborate conspiracy.
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No Elephants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-20-11 06:47 AM
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37. Record of McLame's birth in Panama, too. He's an Earthling!
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Javaman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-20-11 09:22 AM
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38. new ultra right wing orly tates memo...
"don't believe them!"

She has to find a way to keep making money.
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