WikiLeaks: Qataris say Egyptians "Blame America" for Troubles

[Hissyspit]

Source: Deutsche Presse-Agentur

WikiLeaks: Qataris say Egyptians "blame America" for troubles
Jan 28, 2011, 11:35 GMT

Berlin - Egyptian citizens fault Washington for their stagnated political situation, Qatari leaders told senior United States officials in early 2010.

'The Egyptian 'people blame America' now for their plight. The shift in mood on the ground is 'mostly because of Mubarak and his close ties to the United States,' a leaked US diplomatic cable reported.

The cable was summarizing a meeting between Qatari Prime Minister Hamad bin Jassim Al Thani and US Senator John Kerry which focused mostly on the Palestinian-Israeli conflict, including internal Palestinian rivalries between Hamas and Fatah.

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WikiLeaks is releasing a trove of cables connected to Egypt, some new and some already released, as Egyptians prepare to take to the streets in another day of protests against the government.

Read more: http://www.monstersandcritics.com/news/middleeast/news/article_1615316.php/WikiLeaks-Qataris-say-Egyptians-blame-America-for-troubles

[Kennah]

1. Americans also blame America for troubles

[Xenotime]

4. america would be wise to turn over a lot of their shit to the rest of the world..

otherwise, this could hurt in the long run.

[xchrom]

2. not different than how people in south america feel/have felt

our support for dictators there.

[closeupready]

3. Not a surprise. DIctatorships in the M.E. have ALWAYS encouraged the

citizens which they repress to blame America for everything from hunger to unemployment to bad weather. Takes pressure off those same dictators to actually do anything popular since, "don't blame me, it's not my fault; it's the Americans' fault!"

Nothing surprising about this story.

[Uncle Joe]

8. In the case of Egypt it may carry more weight because we have given them

so much aid ranked anywhere from 1st - 4th on our list to prop up their government regardless of their draconian domestic policies.

Any U.S. Government believing they can strongly support an authoritarian regime in a vacuum without regard of how that nation treats its' own citizens can't expect the good will of those affected people when it all hits the fan.

The best thing we can do is support the Egyptian People's will and over time I believe this will repair the damage, but if we just give them lip service or prop up the Mubarak Regime regardless, then at some point, Egypt could very likely go the way of Iran.

[defendandprotect]

5. Well, Obama's been giving Mubarak advice on "reform" ....!!

Plus what should Egyptians think when Mubarak was an "ally" in our

invading and occupying Afghanistan and Iraq -- and as Cheney outlined ...

"Turning all their Mosques into Cathedrals -- and taking all their oil" -- !!???

How much oil does US want?

How many more Taj Mahal's of US Embessies costing almost a $1 billion each?

How many more nations to be occupied in the ME?

Biden has been calling for a year now for Israel to attack Iran -- saying "Israel would

be justified in attacking Iran" -- !!! Yikes!

"Bomb, bomb, bomb, Iran" from the Dem Party?

[defendandprotect]

6. US has been involved in coups and crap all over the world ... capitalistic nightmare ...

inflicted upon other countries --

Capitalism is a system intended to move a nation's wealth and natural resources

from the many to the few -- and it is highly sccessful at doing just that!





Patriarchy -- and its underpinning =

Organized patriarchal religin -- and its economic system =

Capitalism =

The Unholy Trinity

[davepc]

7. The US props up Egypt because it wants a stable friendly goverment that wont shut down the Suez

or be at constant war with Israel.

Unstable governments, or religious fundamentalist ones pose big problems.

Anwar El Sadat wasn't assassinated by liberal democratic reformers.

[riderinthestorm]

10. Yup, all true but that doesn't change the fact the US is complicit in propping up a dictator. nt

[davepc]

11. It wasn't and isn't a choice between dictator and liberal secular democracy.

It wasn't then, and it won't be now.

George Bush and Cheney had grand illusions about western democracies springing up like tulips after the rain through the middle east. Most intelligent people dismissed those fantasies as foolish and juvenile and showing a real lack of understand of the political and social realities of the region.

But not that it's happening for real then the Bush/Cheney view for mid-east democracy is all the sudden dead on.

I don't buy it.

[Uncle Joe]

12. 1. I have serious doubts George Bush or Dick Cheney ever truly believed that,

they were just promoting that scenario for propaganda sake as an enticement to influence the American People to wage war.

2. Democracy can't be imposed by the sword from an outside source, the people must demand it for them selves.

3. One thing is for sure, if Egypt pursues some form of democracy it may not totally be along our lines but it would their choice, their own self-determination and the current situation; is without a doubt, dictatorship.

[customerserviceguy]

9. I'll admit, I pooh-poohed this a couple of days ago

But it looks just like what happened in Iran thirty years ago. That didn't turn out well for anybody except the Shia religious leaders of that country.

If the whole Islamic Middle East is falling apart, it gets Israel's trigger finger a bit itchier. With Netanyahu in control, that doesn't mean that this situation will have a good outcome, either.