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seafan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-23-11 11:36 AM Original message |
(Florida GOP) Bill would ban doctors from asking about gun ownership |
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jpak (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-23-11 11:41 AM Response to Original message |
1. The NRA and republics wipe their ass with the First Amendment - dictators |
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wtmusic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-23-11 11:41 AM Response to Original message |
2. Can they ask if patients own bullets? |
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drm604 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-23-11 11:44 AM Response to Original message |
3. I'm guessing that doctors do this with depressed patients. |
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onehandle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-23-11 11:52 AM Response to Reply #3 |
9. That's exactly what it is about. I've seen as a check box on a form. |
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Renew Deal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-23-11 11:49 AM Response to Original message |
4. Since when did doctors ask if patients owned guns? |
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jpak (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-23-11 11:51 AM Response to Reply #4 |
7. Gun violence/accidents at home are a public health issue |
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Renew Deal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-23-11 11:53 AM Response to Reply #7 |
11. Right |
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Courtesy Flush (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-23-11 11:51 AM Response to Reply #4 |
8. Well, they make you take your clothes off, TSA style. nt |
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Courtesy Flush (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-23-11 11:50 AM Response to Original message |
5. It's interesting that... |
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marasinghe (754 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-23-11 07:55 PM Response to Reply #5 |
75. nice catch, there. |
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JJW (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-23-11 11:51 AM Response to Original message |
6. The religion of selling guns |
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struggle4progress (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-23-11 11:53 AM Response to Original message |
10. pdf bill text link: |
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Courtesy Flush (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-23-11 11:54 AM Response to Original message |
12. The bill allowing guns on commercial airline flights is still in committee. nt |
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X_Digger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-23-11 12:40 PM Response to Reply #12 |
21. Umm, I've traveled commercial air many times with a gun. |
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jpak (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-23-11 12:45 PM Response to Reply #21 |
24. Umm - you can't carry it on the plane - the second amendment has its limits |
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X_Digger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-23-11 12:51 PM Response to Reply #24 |
27. Nor did I say I could. Perhaps you should read closer, next time. n/t |
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BadgerKid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-23-11 12:01 PM Response to Original message |
13. Easy, just ask if pt. is in possession of or has access to a gun. n/t |
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jpak (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-23-11 12:04 PM Response to Original message |
14. Republics want tort reform to "help" doctors, but now they want to fine them for doing their job |
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Fearless (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-23-11 12:06 PM Response to Original message |
15. Why does it matter if they ask or not? |
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LiberalFighter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-23-11 12:08 PM Response to Original message |
16. Can't think of any sane reason why Florida legislators need to enact such a prohibition. |
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Kolesar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-23-11 01:17 PM Response to Reply #16 |
41. that was very polite...eom |
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jpak (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-23-11 01:47 PM Response to Reply #16 |
54. Becasue the republics want to get government off doctor's backs - small gov't GOP |
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JJW (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-23-11 12:09 PM Response to Original message |
17. Can the patient |
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WatsonT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-23-11 12:30 PM Response to Original message |
18. Why would a doctor need to ask about gun ownership? |
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jpak (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-23-11 12:44 PM Response to Reply #18 |
23. Guns kill and maim tens of thousands of Americans each yer |
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WatsonT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-23-11 12:47 PM Response to Reply #23 |
25. Does it matter why the person is injured when they come in? |
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jpak (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-23-11 12:52 PM Response to Reply #25 |
28. Gun shot wounds are different from hang nails - doctors have to know the nature of the injury |
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WatsonT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-23-11 01:13 PM Response to Reply #28 |
39. You would think they'd be able to judge |
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boppers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-23-11 08:14 PM Response to Reply #39 |
77. It's never lupus. |
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WatsonT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-24-11 11:12 PM Response to Reply #77 |
86. It was once |
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GusBob (82 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-23-11 05:43 PM Response to Reply #18 |
68. Easy. suicide |
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booley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-23-11 12:34 PM Response to Original message |
19. Doctor's Anti-Gun Agenda |
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X_Digger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-23-11 12:37 PM Response to Original message |
20. This was likely prompted by this.. |
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jpak (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-23-11 12:42 PM Response to Reply #20 |
22. So you want to take away a doctor's right to a safe workplace? |
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X_Digger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-23-11 12:50 PM Response to Reply #22 |
26. This has nothing to do with the doctor's workplace. |
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jpak (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-23-11 12:53 PM Response to Reply #26 |
30. I'm glad you agree that doctors can make their offices gun-free zones |
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X_Digger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-23-11 12:54 PM Response to Reply #30 |
32. And that has what to do with my post?? |
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WatsonT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-23-11 12:53 PM Response to Reply #22 |
29. Having a gun at your house |
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jpak (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-23-11 12:56 PM Response to Reply #29 |
33. Children are routinely killed and injured by loaded guns kept at home |
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WatsonT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-23-11 01:14 PM Response to Reply #33 |
40. Children are more likely to die in a swimming pool |
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jpak (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-23-11 01:26 PM Response to Reply #40 |
46. Citations plase |
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WatsonT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-23-11 01:39 PM Response to Reply #46 |
50. Sure thing pal |
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jpak (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-23-11 05:19 PM Response to Reply #50 |
65. Thank you - so it is a major *manageable* *controllable* risk |
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WatsonT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-23-11 05:23 PM Response to Reply #65 |
66. Keep resetting those goal posts |
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WatsonT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-23-11 01:41 PM Response to Reply #46 |
51. If you need some help moving those goal posts |
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boppers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-23-11 08:22 PM Response to Reply #51 |
79. See # 78 |
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polmaven (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-23-11 01:28 PM Response to Reply #40 |
47. Sure - 'cause |
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WatsonT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-23-11 01:35 PM Response to Reply #47 |
49. Here let me help you catching those moving goalposts |
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jpak (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-23-11 01:45 PM Response to Reply #47 |
53. Stop making sense |
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boppers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-23-11 08:20 PM Response to Reply #40 |
78. It helps to read up on the background. |
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AndyTiedye (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-23-11 12:53 PM Response to Original message |
31. If a Doctor is Asking About Guns |
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X_Digger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-23-11 12:56 PM Response to Reply #31 |
34. From the article posted above.. |
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seafan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-23-11 01:11 PM Response to Reply #34 |
38. More from that article: 'Family and pediatrician tangle over gun question' |
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dixiegrrrrl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-23-11 01:20 PM Response to Reply #38 |
43. If the dr. is THAT concerned, s/he does not need to ask. |
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X_Digger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-23-11 01:26 PM Response to Reply #43 |
45. You'd think so. |
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WatsonT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-23-11 01:44 PM Response to Reply #43 |
52. This is like religion |
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LanternWaste (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-23-11 03:58 PM Response to Reply #52 |
62. You would then be opposed to an OB/GYN asking new parents |
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WatsonT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-23-11 05:14 PM Response to Reply #62 |
64. According to all these stats |
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LanternWaste (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-23-11 07:00 PM Response to Reply #64 |
71. OK. But again, are you opposed to an OB/GYN asking new parents |
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WatsonT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-24-11 09:24 AM Response to Reply #71 |
83. Two key differences: |
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hack89 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-23-11 07:29 PM Response to Reply #62 |
74. They can ask - they shouldn't punish patients for a non-answer. |
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AndyTiedye (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-23-11 01:29 PM Response to Reply #34 |
48. That is Over the Top Too |
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LanternWaste (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-23-11 03:08 PM Response to Reply #34 |
58. Would this be akin to a physicians inquiring... |
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logosoco (372 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-23-11 01:01 PM Response to Original message |
35. I seem to recall my kids pediatrition asking me if we had guns |
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last_texas_dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-23-11 01:01 PM Response to Original message |
36. Why do the Repugs suddenly think the gov't should be telling doctors what to do? |
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panzerfaust (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-23-11 01:01 PM Response to Original message |
37. Especially here in Texas, new parents often do not think |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-23-11 01:48 PM Response to Reply #37 |
55. There are clueless people everywhere. Basic gun safety should be taught in public schools. |
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WatsonT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-23-11 04:26 PM Response to Reply #55 |
63. I think when it comes to gun education |
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savannah43 (198 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-23-11 01:19 PM Response to Original message |
42. Wait until people start shooting at them. |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-23-11 01:21 PM Response to Original message |
44. Obviously unnecessary politically motivated legislation is obviously unnecessary |
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SkyDaddy7 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-23-11 02:04 PM Response to Original message |
56. The NRA is a DISGRACE to responsible gun owners!! nt. |
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beevul (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-23-11 03:52 PM Response to Reply #56 |
61. If it weren't for crass anti-gun individuals and the agenda they push... |
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SkyDaddy7 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-23-11 06:41 PM Response to Reply #61 |
70. I hear what you are saying but... |
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seafan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-23-11 03:06 PM Response to Original message |
57. Child safety is a moral obligation of a pediatrician. |
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seafan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-23-11 03:08 PM Response to Original message |
59. Now, HERE is an example of a physician with a political agenda. |
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guruoo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-23-11 05:46 PM Response to Reply #59 |
69. In case you miss it... |
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mainer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-23-11 03:09 PM Response to Original message |
60. Doctors always ask about safety issues |
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guruoo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-23-11 05:42 PM Response to Original message |
67. But, of course, doctor's exam room campaigning against health care is OK photo>>> |
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Bragi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-23-11 07:14 PM Response to Original message |
72. Docs should just disguise the question |
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Jmaxfie1 (707 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-23-11 07:21 PM Response to Original message |
73. This has nothing to do with the right to carry firearms, This is just moronic. n/t |
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Ter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-23-11 07:57 PM Response to Original message |
76. Good |
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boppers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-23-11 08:28 PM Response to Reply #76 |
80. How about asking patients if they leave drain cleaner around their children? |
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JoeyT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-24-11 02:45 AM Response to Reply #80 |
81. If the parents answer "Yes, we have some, but they're locked up." |
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boppers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-24-11 04:03 AM Response to Reply #81 |
82. If the parents *refuse to answer* is the question. |
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Bill McBlueState (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-24-11 09:31 AM Response to Reply #76 |
84. I might expect a doctor to ask about both, |
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Tommy_Carcetti (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-24-11 03:20 PM Response to Original message |
85. So let me get this straight.... |
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