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Electric Monk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-02-11 11:18 PM
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(Canada) Green Party makes history as (Elizabeth) May wins seat
Source: The Chronicle Herald

By THE CANADIAN PRESS
Tue, May 3 - 12:51 AM

Green Party Leader Elizabeth May has made history, becoming Canada's first-ever Green MP.

May has defeated Conservative cabinet minister Gary Lunn in the Vancouver Island riding of Saanich-Gulf Islands.

(snip)

May's win was the result of an all-or-nothing strategy by the party to get her elected.

Read more: http://thechronicleherald.ca/Front/9020709.html



Good for her. Next time they'll have to let her in the debates.
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RainDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-02-11 11:32 PM
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1. Congrats to her and to Canada n/t
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rationalcalgarian Donating Member (140 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-02-11 11:40 PM
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2. It's a start!
Congratulations, Ms. May! :applause:
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murphyj87 Donating Member (570 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-02-11 11:49 PM
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3. And the NDP won...
The NDP won 2.4 times more seats than the 43 which were the most it had won previously, 68 more than it had in the last Parliament.
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stockholmer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-03-11 12:26 AM
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4. big ups from a member of the Swedish Green Party to a fellow eco-socialist, well played!
More needed NOW, the US included.

:bounce:
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iverglas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-03-11 12:26 PM
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10. sorry, but you need to reconsider that ;)
May isn't an eco-socialist.

She's an ego-capitalist.

There is no remote similarity between the Green Party of Canada, an official organ of Elizabeth May's body, and any European Green Party.

At least this time around few people were hoodwinked into giving her candidates votes stolen from the NDP under false pretences.

She'll be sitting in a back corner of the House of Commons with no resources, and that works for me.
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stockholmer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-03-11 02:06 PM
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12. thanks for sharing your view, could you please provide some links to delve deeper?
May's margin of victory, if added to the NDP candidate, still would not have been enough to give them victory.

Saanich—Gulf Islands - Canadian federal election, 2011

Party Candidate Votes % ±%
Green Elizabeth May 31,900 46 -
Conservative Gary Lunn 24,541 36 -
New Democrat Edith Loring-Kuhanga 8,198 12 -
Liberal Renée Hetherington 4,314 6


here is their platform, then ours, I do not see a lot of differnce, except in the extent that the Canadian one pushes issues that are the law here in Sweden, but not in Canada

GREEN PARTY OF CANADA

smart economies
START WITH

Green jobs.

Create thousands of jobs through
investment in renewable energy, expanding passenger rail and modernizing freight, retrofitting thousands of buildings to high standards for energy efficiency.

Smart economic stimulus.

Expand access to employment insurance for those who paid into it, while protecting the pensions of retired Canadians.

Reduce EI and CPP contributions for businesses.

Fair global trade. Reform, revise and rethink our trade agreements. Trade is a part of a sustainable future only when it is fair for all.

Healthy industry.

A healthy agriculture sector, with support for those who wish to transition to organic farming.

A healthy fishery, with an end to devastating draggers.

A sustainable forest industry with more emphasis on value added, and less raw log or unprocessed pulp export.

More jobs for more people making real things.

Cut wasteful subsidies.

End the failed strategy of throwing good money after bad in corporate bail-outs for big business, and subsidies to nuclear and fossil fuels.

Get the prices right. Get the prices right for longterm sustainability. Avoid structural deficits. Implement a revenue-neutral carbon pricing architecture to modernize our economy.

Build a “Made in Canada” Green economy


strong communities
START WITH

Help for married couples and families.

• Fix the tax system. Lower income taxes and introduce full income splitting to reduce the tax burden on married couples and families.

• Share the load. More people working fewer hours.

For those who want to, make it easier to telecommute or work from home.

Share jobs.

Flex hours.

Flexible child care with access for all. Early childhood education.

More workplace child care spaces.

Support for those who stay home to raise their children and support for those who need to get back to work while their kids are still young.

Help for local governments.

Sustainable long-term funding support for municipalities to repair decades-old crumbling infrastructure.

Build for the future.

Create more of the common amenities all communities need for recreation, transportation, water works and arts and culture.

Respect and support our elders.

Ensure secure pensions and provide programmes that address health – both physical and mental – and ensure dignity by stopping elder abuse and respecting living wills.


true democracy
START WITH

Reform our voting system.

Hold a national discussion
on the health of our democracy, address the growing and undemocratic power of the Prime Minister’s Office and explore the options for a more meaningful electoral system.

Consider the risks of “first past the post” and vote on whether it should be replaced. Consider proportional representation.


Access to information.

Seek true solutions to the increasing corporate control in Canadian journalism.

Whatever is “dumbed down” must be “smartened up.”

Ensure that citizenship is equal. Social justice and equity are cornerstones of democracy. Canadian democracy is more secure when human rights are respected – starting with the First Nations and indigenous peoples of this continent, Turtle Island.

Canada must move forward in implementing the spirit of the UN Declaration on the Rights of Indigenous Peoples.

Global action on global problems.

Strengthen and enforce decisions made in the 2010 climate negotiations (COP16) to bring in the urgent and aggressive measures required globally to avoid catastrophic climate impacts and adjust and adapt to impacts we can no longer avoid.

Contribute to a peaceful solution in Afghanistan.

Refocus the Canadian mission in Afghanistan to poverty alleviation and development, strengthening governance and civil society institutions, and supporting the training and development of the Afghan military and police force, particularly in the area of upholding and protecting human rights.


Make poverty history.

Meet Canada’s commitments and push other nations to meet theirs in order to achieve the Millennium Development Goals.



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and here is my party's (Swedish Green Party) platform from the 2010 elections


We made huge gains in the 2010 elections, the highest percentage growth of any major party, and that was BEFORE Fukushima.


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Raise quality within welfare, invest in educationtion


1. No-one should be without insurance

Everyone should be covered by secure and modern health insurance. We want sickness benefit to be available for as long as people are ill and we want to get rid of the health insurance ceiling. Society has a particular responsibility for providing effective rehabilitation. Everyone should be covered by general unemployment insurance.

2. Shorter working hours

We want to reduce normal working hours to 35 hours a week to give people more time and increase their quality of life. As an initial step we want to introduce support for parents of young children to allow them to reduce their hours, and we want to reintroduce the sabbatical year. We want to introduce more flexibility around retirement age and create opportunities to reduce working hours as people approach retirement.

3. Diversity at school

While at school children are entitled to learn the skills that they will need as they enter adult life. Parents and children will have good opportunities to influence teaching and be able to choose a method that suits the child. All children will have the attention and time that they need with adults in school and at nursery. Quality in Swedish nurseries and primary and secondary schools therefore needs to be improved. We need to increase the teacher-pupil ratio, reduce class sizes and increase the amount of scheduled teaching time. We want to protect diversity in schools, teaching and educational focus. We want to strengthen pupil democracy and invest in pupil healthcare.


4. Let children be children

A playful and safe childhood should be a universal right. A society that is good for children is good for everyone. We want to boost children’s rights and incorporate the UN Convention on the Rights of the Child into Swedish law.

5. Preventive care

Healthcare and nursing need to adopt a preventive approach that promotes healthy living. Healthcare will be equal for all and be located close to citizens. It will be characterised by teamwork and broad medical and psychosocial expertise. Special initiatives are required in order to reduce mental ill-health and improve elderly care. Checks and monitoring will be enhanced to reduce cases of incorrect use of medication.

6. Good food

We want to improve the quality of food in schools, hospitals and homes for the elderly. Children, older people and sick people will be served freshly cooked meals from local kitchens in schools, homes and hospitals instead of heated up food that is driven long distances. When procuring services the focus will be on organic ingredients and locally produced food, which is why the law on public procurement needs to be reviewed to allow the promotion of local purchasing. Tasty and nutritional food is a natural aspect of welfare.


7. A strong higher education system and increased student grants

The education system is a key aspect of a modern knowledge-based society. Quality in higher education institutions will be improved by increasing the amount of contact time for the students and a greater focus on good teaching methods. We want to offer people new opportunities and to make it easier to study at all stages in life. That’s why we want to raise the student grant and improve students’ social safety net. Cooperation will be strengthened between universities/higher education institutions and the business sector.

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A just and sustainable world is possible


1. Active global climate policy

We must reduce global emissions of greenhouse gases. We want to campaign globally to phase out all subsidies on coal, oil and nuclear power. We want to introduce environmental control charges for fossil fuels within international airline and shipping operations to cover the cost of climate initiatives in poor countries. We must increase international support for climate measures in developing countries.

2. Tackle poverty

We want to work for fair trade that takes account of the needs of the poor countries. The level of aid given by Sweden will be at least one percent of GNI. Sweden will campaign to write off illegitimate debts and ensure that poor countries do not fall into debt traps. Tackling poverty will be a key element of foreign, trade and development aid policy.

3. Phase out export of arms

We want to phase out the export of arms. An initial step will be to toughen up regulations for Swedish weapons exports. It is unacceptable for Swedish weapons to be exported to countries that are involved in human rights abuses. We say no to investing additional billions in a new, upgraded version of the JAS fighter plane. Sweden should remain outside NATO. We must step up efforts to establish peace in the world. We also want to prohibit the manufacture of mines and cluster bombs in Sweden.

4. Stop overfishing in our seas

All subsidies must be removed that contribute towards overfishing. Cod and other species of fish in our seas should not be fished if their numbers fall below safe levels. Strong measures are required to tackle illegal fishing. We will also review Sweden’s trade policy to help reduce overfishing in other seas around the world.

5. Respect for human rights in refugee policy

We want to create more legal routes for migration to the EU. A more humane refugee policy is needed. There have long been deficiencies in the Swedish migration process, which is why we want to carry out an amnesty for all those without papers. The best interests of the child will be prioritised in the assessment of all refugee cases. Those without papers should be entitled to healthcare and have the right to attend school.

6. No to EMU

We want Sweden to keep its own currency and not join the EMU. The EU must be more democratic and less centralised. The EU should not have a common defence policy


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An equal society increases freedom


1. Equality at home and on the board

Both parents are entitled to be at home with their children and the child has the right to be with both parents. We want parental insurance to be divided into three periods, with the parents each being assigned a certain number of days and the third period being divided up as they choose. This will improve opportunities to divide up parental leave in an equal manner. We want to introduce a law on quotas for the number of women on the boards of listed companies and public sector companies.

2. Women’s safety is freedom

We want to increase resources to women’s refuges working with domestic violence. The justice system must handle cases with skill and respect. Rape laws will be strengthened to guarantee sexual integrity. Children who have witnessed violence in the home will be regarded as victims of crime. People who are convicted of assault will be forced to undergo treatment. Violence against men and violence within same sex relationships must also be given attention. More resources are needed to tackle prostitution and human trafficking.


3. Equal rights for all

Discrimination legislation needs to be toughened up. We want to promote equal rights at companies and government agencies. Local anti-discrimination agencies will be strengthened. We want to continue to campaign for the rights of homosexual, bisexual and transsexual people. Efforts to tackle hate crime will be stepped up. Everyone will have the opportunity to participate fully in society. We want lack of access to be classed as discrimination against people with disabilities under the law.

4. Learning using native language

One of the most efficient ways of improving school results for children whose native language is not Swedish is to invest more in native language teaching. We want to extend the right to native language teaching to cover the entire compulsory schooling period. We also want to increase subject teaching in children’s native language.


5. Jobs and training for newcomers

Newcomers to Sweden will be offered opportunities to learn Swedish quickly, validate or supplement their training and get a job. We want Swedish language studies to be combined with practical experience. We want to improve quality in Swedish as a second language. We want universities and higher education institutions to offer courses in Swedish for people coming to Sweden with an academic education.


6. Defend the right to a private life

People’s right to a private life is being restricted across society. We want to strengthen the regulations regarding camera surveillance so that individual integrity is taken into consideration. The state will not be able to register all Internet user traffic in Sweden. We want to abolish the FRA law on changes to defence intelligence activities.

7. A free internet and balanced copyright legislation

We want to protect the rule of law and integrity on the internet by making changes to the IPRED law on file sharing. We want to modernise copyright law and decriminalise file sharing for private use. Net neutrality is an important principle that must be defended.


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New jobs, entrepreneurship and small companies


1. Reduced VAT for service companies

We want to encourage growth in the service sector by reducing VAT within several industries. It will be cheaper to repair broken items, eat at restaurants, go to the hairdresser and fix a bicycle. Sustainable consumption of services must be encouraged and we want to take an initial step towards achieving this during the mandate period.

2. Reduced tax for small companies

We want to reduce payroll tax for small companies by ten percentage points. We want sole traders to have an additional reduction for the first employee during the first year of operation.

3. Venture capital for SMEs

We want to introduce a state venture capital fund to make it easier for more small and medium-sized companies to have access to venture capital. The fund will be financed from dividends from the state companies.


4. Trade and industry at the forefront

A lot of new entrepreneurs are motivated by the desire to take greater ethical, social and environmental responsibility. This contributes towards sustainable development. We need to encourage this approach. We want to increase grants for innovation, product development and environmental technology development at small and medium-sized companies. The state and municipal companies will contribute towards new environmental technology, renewable energy and act as an example when it comes to reducing climate impact. Social and cooperative enterprise will be part of a green entrepreneur policy. We work to encourage more companies to start up in rural areas. We want to actively work to utilise and improve opportunities to take social, ethical and environmental aspects into consideration during the public procurement process.

5. Jobs and training for young people

We want to introduce a trainee programme in the welfare sector. We also need to invest more in professional training programmes and apprenticeships. More higher education institutions will offer work experience at companies and authorities as part of the training programme.

6. An open and varied cultural life

A vibrant and creative cultural life is a key success factor for health, quality of life and the development of society. We want to invest in culture so that everyone, particularly children and young people, is given the opportunity to participate in various different cultural activities, both actively and as a member of the audience. Schools of culture will be strengthened. Culture is a climate friendly alternative to material consumption.

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Invest in new jobs and reducing climate impact


1. Sweden will take its share of the responsibility

Sweden has to take its share of global responsibility. Emissions of greenhouse gases will decrease in accordance with researchers’ recommendations. Increases to green taxes will make it more expensive to use fossil fuels.

2. Double capacity in railway network

Climate-friendly transport policies across the country require major investments in the railway network. Capacity for passenger and goods trains will be doubled. We want to build high-speed railways and link the major Swedish cities Stockholm, Gothenburg and Malmö to Copenhagen and Oslo. We also want to link the main line with regional tracks to strengthen regional connections. It will be cheaper to travel by train than drive or fly.

3. Expand public transport

We want to invest in an extensive expansion of the public transport system, trams, regional trains, underground and buses, to create more climate-friendly cities. We want to double public transport’s share of transportation by 2020. There is no need for new motorways. Public transport should be accessible and usable for people with disabilities.

4. New fuels for cars

Many people in Sweden are dependent on a car. Fossil fuels need to be phased out for environmental and cost reasons. So everyone should be given the opportunity to fill up using renewable fuel. It should be cheaper to drive on renewable fuels instead of petrol. Domestic production and distribution of renewable fuels will be encouraged. It will be possible to fill up using biogas and recharge electric cars all over the country.


5. Make your own electricity

We want to make producing your own electricity profitable. An increasing number of people are keen to invest in renewable energy and contribute to reducing their climate impact. This also means that more people should be able to supply renewable electricity to the electricity network. We want to introduce a system of fixed prices for renewable electricity and allow net metering for small-scale electricity producers.

6. Invest in renewable energy and energy efficiency

We want to replace nuclear power and fossil fuels with wind power, biofuel, wave power and solar energy, and make investments to improve energy efficiency. We want to invest in rebuilding work that leads to reduced energy consumption. This will reduce energy costs. Uranium mining will be prohibited.

7. Repair Million Programme housing

We want to introduce a special investment grant for rebuilding and repairing run-down homes and urban centres, mainly in the suburbs. The investments will lead to improved home environments and reduced energy consumption.


8. More goods by train and boat

We want to introduce a tax on HGV transportation in order to improve road safety and reduce emissions. This will mean that it will make more financial sense to transport goods by train and boat instead of lorry.

9. Protect nature and biological diversity

Meadows and pastureland that are rich in species will be protected and the section on protection of coastal areas in the Swedish Environmental Code will be strengthened. Valuable natural forests will be protected. Sweden will provide long-term protection for robust stocks of the four major predators: wolves, lynxes, bears and wolverines. The spread of environmental toxins must be curtailed, for example by banning several brominated flame retardants and hormone disruptors. We want to preserve and recreate wetlands and provide legal protection for groundwater, which are all important to our water supply.

10. Farming and animal protection

The use of pesticides and commercial fertilizer will be minimised. Animal protection will be reinforced and we want to ban fur farming. We will protect the soil. We want to make it financially viable to pursue ecologically sustainable farming. Sweden will be at the helm within green industries such as ecotourism and small-scale food processing. We want to protect the soil from genetically modified crops.



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iverglas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-03-11 02:44 PM
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13. sorry, but it really is a little difficult
to teach a complete course in Canadian politics in a post here.

Could I first just point out that I didn't say the NDP would have won in May's riding but for her; I referred to "her candidates" getting votes that would otherwise have been NDP, which has been a factor in previous elections.

There are so many reasons to dislike May and her party one really doesn't know where to begin.

In a riding I have lived in, a person who ran as a Green candidate in one election ran for the Conservatives in the next. It is widely understood that the Green Party was underwritten by Conservative money at its inception, but to find documentation for that ... I do have work to do. The Green-Conservative ties are extensive.

Here's another one:

http://greenparty.ca/releases/29.10.2007b
"Former Conservative candidate to run for Green Party"

This is just a blog, but there are others of the same slant on the site:

http://greenparty.ca/node/6994
"Greens are fiscally conservative"

That's what you call the opposite of "left". And it sure as hell ain't "socialist".

Then there was May's godawful sucking up to Brian Mulroney, an astounding spectacle, and of course my favourite:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=190&topic_id=20253&mesg_id=20287

Elizabeth May on women's reproductive rights. I say a few more things about her there. ;)


You did notice that her platform is just a tad short on specifics, when compared to yours? Feels good, though.
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stockholmer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-03-11 03:12 PM
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14. thanks so much for taking the time to reply, I will look into all your info, cheers!
it really is shite that Harper and the Cons won a majority

best of luck to you and Canada

:hi:
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iverglas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-06-11 12:17 PM
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15. I'm way too late with this
but I got sidetracked.

www.politicalcompass.org

Canadian election 2011



EU govts 2008 (the best I could get there)



That may clarify it a bit. ;)

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Firebrand Gary Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-03-11 02:28 AM
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5. Yea, but Canada is also getting its own George W Bush. So sad for them.
Edited on Tue May-03-11 02:32 AM by Firebrand Gary
They will be sorry. Four years of anything Harper wants. Ouch

We can all be certain that Canada will achieve nothing on climate change in the next four years. His buddy Rupert Murdoch will no doubt aid in the partisan divide thats guaranteed to come.

Here come the social issues as well.

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Arrowhead2k1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-03-11 02:49 AM
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6. I don't see a single thing to cheer about.
This election was a disaster for anyone in the centre or left.

Anyways, my predictions. 4 years of Harper will surely alienate Quebec, who will in turn revive the Bloc like never before. Quebec being the NDPs current new found stronghold, obviously would not last through such a scenario, so I really don't have much hope for them, despite their historic gains. The vote splitting of the left needs not happen again everywhere else. Canada will never fully accept a leftist party like the NDP(It's sad, but true), and being the impotent opposition to Harper's majority won't serve them much.

So, it's up to the Liberal party to reflect and do a complete overhaul. They need to ditch Iggy and his ilk, and revive the spirits of Pearson and Trudeau.

In the mean time, Canadians are about to learn the hard way as to who Harper and his Alberta Tories really are.
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Prof Lester Donating Member (158 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-03-11 04:15 AM
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7. I agree.
Edited on Tue May-03-11 04:18 AM by Prof Lester
I can't help but wonder if the smart boys (as opposed to the morans of the CON-servative party) see the Big One coming--the giant crash--and have elected to be away from the wheelhouse when it happens. Why else would they put a transparently unsuitable goofball like Ignatz-whatever in charge of their future? Here's a man who wrote an article saying how much he hates Canada. So let's put him in charge of the country?? Why would Canadians put a man in their Whitehouse who buggered off to the US to be an egghead at Harvard for twenty or thirty years?? Would you, for example, vote in a man who took off for Canada for thirty years then came back, ie., Now I'm here, suckers, to take over. Hah!
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harmonicon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-03-11 05:32 AM
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8. Actually, yeah, I'd happily vote for someone who'd lived outside of the US.
To be president, someone has to have been living in the US for 13 years before being elected, but if they'd lived overseas for 20 years before that, I think it would be great. Shit, it should maybe be a requirement. Too many politicians honestly have ZERO understanding of the rest of the world.
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iverglas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-03-11 12:36 PM
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11. you're confused
Why else would they put a transparently unsuitable goofball like Ignatz-whatever in charge of their future? Here's a man who wrote an article saying how much he hates Canada.

That one was written -- rather, it was a speech given -- by Stephen Harper. Ignatieff just said how much he loved his country "America".

We don't have quite the same aversion to expat eggheads here, I guess. If he'd just been an egghead who pursued his career in the UK and US (it wasn't just the US) and not got quite so up close and personal with the US, it would have gone over better, of course. The problem wasn't really being an expat egghead, it was the sucking up to the states, for some of us. Harper, of course, had to go with the xenophobia, since actually suggesting Ignatieff should have kept more distance between him and things like the invasion of Iraq would have looked awfully pot-and-kettle.


http://thetyee.ca/News/2011/03/23/StephenHarpersEyes/

<Editor's note: Fourteen years ago Stephen Harper was vice president of the National Citizens Coalition, an Alberta-based think tank that crusades for smaller government and less taxes.
Today, on the eve of another federal election, the NCC's web site says: "Is Canada today perfect? Far from it. Have we conservatives been able to accomplish everything we want? Not by a long shot. But we now have the people, the tools and the political will to help bring Canadians the government they deserve at a price they can afford."

Next week Stephen Harper will begin his fourth try at winning a majority government for the Conservative Party he welded together from its predecessors, the Reform Party and the Progressive Conservatives.We thought it might be a good time to run in its entirety the speech Harper gave to a June 1997 Montreal meeting of the right-wing U.S. Council for National Policy, in which he spoke frankly about the aspirations and criticisms he holds for Canada.>

Ladies and gentlemen, let me begin by giving you a big welcome to Canada. Let's start up with a compliment. You're here from the second greatest nation on earth. But seriously, your country, and particularly your conservative movement, is a light and an inspiration to people in this country and across the world.

... First, facts about Canada. Canada is a Northern European welfare state in the worst sense of the term, and very proud of it. Canadians make no connection between the fact that they are a Northern European welfare state and the fact that we have very low economic growth, a standard of living substantially lower than yours, a massive brain drain of young professionals to your country, and double the unemployment rate of the United States.

In terms of the unemployed, of which we have over a million-and-a-half, don't feel particularly bad for many of these people. They don't feel bad about it themselves, as long as they're receiving generous social assistance and unemployment insurance. ...
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Kolesar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-03-11 05:45 AM
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9. She was president of the Sierra Club of Canada for 17 years
Well done!
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